Conflict between Palestine and Israel escalates

[Gordon_4]

There is something incredibly wretched about people who oppose the maltreatment of Palestinians keeping themselves warm at night by raging at other people who oppose the maltreatment of Palestinians.

No wonder the Zionists win, if that's their opposition.

The People's Front of Judea - so to speak - strikes again.

 

[XsjadoBlaydette]

Being Pro-Israel 'Rehabilitates the Far Right,' Says Jewish Writer Rachel Shabi

Mehdi interviews the journalist and author of the insightful new book, 'Off-White: The Truth About Antisemitism.'

zeteo.com

“The left has ceded the space on antisemitism…and the right has smartly and strategically filled that void.”

That’s one of the big takeaways from award-winning British journalist and broadcaster Rachel Shabi’s new book, Off-White: The Truth About Antisemitism.

Shabi recently sat down with Mehdi for a wide-ranging interview about her book, the conditionality of whiteness for Jewish people, and why progressives need to establish their own trustworthiness when speaking out against antisemitism. “We’re going to have to do this work despite the bad-faith actors,” Shabi said.

“We need to be building our own credibility as people who care about and fight against antisemitism when we see it, including from the right, which is getting worse,” Shabi added.

Shabi’s book also explores the “new” antisemitism, which is pushed by supporters of Israel to demonize pro-Palestinian voices.

“The effect has been not only to silence and chill speech on Palestine at this urgent moment, which is bad enough, but it’s also completely degraded the tone,” Shabi said about false claims of antisemitism.

All the media acting surprised at trumps speech really are taking the fucking the piss, he talked about it before the election and Jared Kushner even months before that talked of it at harvard! Just psychos, fucking hollow power-drunk psychos everywhere as we sleep walk into our 6th extinction fuck off all you kunts

 

[crimson5pheonix]

OK, well that's speculation. There was no statement or rhetoric that matched this until now. Biden-- even during his wretched, indefensible provision of these bombs-- said Palestinians must be allowed to live in and rule Gaza. The rhetoric has shifted.

And yet Biden was trying to expel the Palestinians from their land. Rhetoric is pointless, actions are. Kamala vowed to continue Biden's actions. It's no more speculation than the speculation that Trump was talking out his ass when he said he was going to be the peace president on the campaign trail.

I can't help but notice the posts have shifted, too. Before these statements it was, "things cannot possibly escalate further, so there's no difference". Now it's "things are escalating, but they'd have escalated anyway, so there's no difference". The framing just adapts to maintain this equivalence, even as the earlier claim that nothing could escalate further has fallen apart.

I know, you have an issue reading. It's been a theme with you.

To be clear, that crowing is really misguided. It feels like co-opting or using their suffering as petty ammunition. I don't like it-- and I feel exactly the same way about the crowing from Tippy, and the insistence on blaming Democrat voters for what the Republicans are doing.

Like this right here.

There is something incredibly wretched about people who oppose the maltreatment of Palestinians keeping themselves warm at night by raging at other people who oppose the maltreatment of Palestinians.

No wonder the Zionists win, if that's their opposition.

It must suck looking in a mirror.

 

[Silvanus]

And yet Biden was trying to expel the Palestinians from their land. Rhetoric is pointless, actions are. Kamala vowed to continue Biden's actions. It's no more speculation than the speculation that Trump was talking out his ass when he said he was going to be the peace president on the campaign trail.

Rhetoric gives us a strong indicator for where actions will lead. With Biden, his actions fit the mold of US Presidents for decades: mostly heaps of arms sales, to appease Israel's government (and lobbyists), and to make money. There's no real indication that would lead to US takeover of the land and full expulsion. It didn't for the last 80 years.

I know, you have an issue reading. It's been a theme with you.

Nope, no rewriting the record. We were distinctly told that things cannot get worse, cannot escalate further, as a reason not to warn against Trump. The framing has shifted to accommodate what is patent escalation under the new President.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

Rhetoric gives us a strong indicator for where actions will lead. With Biden, his actions fit the mold of US Presidents for decades: mostly heaps of arms sales, to appease Israel's government (and lobbyists), and to make money. There's no real indication that would lead to US takeover of the land and full expulsion. It didn't for the last 80 years.

The literal map of Israel today tells you that you're wrong. I don't know what false reality you live in.

Pray tell how "things cannot escalate further" is consistent with "things are escalating further".

I dunno, that's a concoction of your mind. The discussion was always the comparison between Trump and Biden/Harris. So far, nothing of note has changed between the two.

 

[Silvanus]

The literal map of Israel today tells you that you're wrong. I don't know what false reality you live in.

I live in the reality in which about 2 million Palestinians live in Gaza and it is governed by a Palestinian group. You can claim to see no difference in Trump's vision for the region if you want. But both Hamas and Israel themselves clearly do, and made no bones about it.

I dunno, that's a concoction of your mind.

Alright, into the memory hole it goes.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

Alright, into the memory hole it goes.

Along with Palestine. I know, you don't care. You live in a world where it has always been Israel and they've never annexed land and threw out Palestinians before ever. This is aaaallllll new, because it's Trump.

I'm just going to remind you every time you speak on this topic the incredibly stupid statement you just made to imply the Palestinians have not been expelled from their land in the past 80 years. Complete rewrite of history. You're an incredibly unserious person.