Funny events in anti-woke world

[Thaluikhain]

Yeah, have to annex Greenland to stop people from...annexing Canada?

 

[Silvanus]

Yeah, have to annex Greenland to stop people from...annexing Canada?

Some very Putin-esque logic there. Someone might conceivably annex them --> we must stop that happening by annexing them.

 

[Kwak]

I thought it was even worse than that - he literally was in the kremlin at the time meeting with Putin.

To add the context....

President Trump's Ukraine and Middle East envoy Steve Witkoff was in Moscow, where he met with Russian President Vladimir Putin, when he was with more than a dozen other top administration officials — and inadvertently, one journalist — on the , a CBS News analysis of open-source flight information and Russian media reporting has revealed.
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Witkoff arrived in Moscow shortly after noon local time on March 13, according to data from the flight tracking website FlightRadar24, and Russian state media broadcast video of his motorcade leaving Vnukovo International Airport shortly after. About 12 hours later, he was added to the "Houthi PC small group" chat on Signal, along with other top Trump administration officials, to discuss an imminent military operation against the Houthis in Yemen, according to The Atlantic magazine editor Jeffrey Goldberg, who was included on the chat for reasons that remain unclear.
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During the group discussion on Signal, Goldberg reported, Ratcliffe named an active CIA intelligence officer in the chat at 5:24 p.m. eastern time, which was just after midnight in Russia. Witkoff's flight did not leave Moscow until around 2 a.m. local time, and Sergei Markov, a former Putin advisor who is still close to the Russian president, said in a Telegram post that Witkoff and Putin were meeting in the Kremlin until 1:30 a.m.

As top Trump aides sent texts on Signal, flight data show a member of the group chat was in Russia

As top Trump Cabinet members sent texts in a Signal group chat, CBS News analysis shows one of them, Steve Witkoff, was in Russia.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[BrawlMan]

Welp, Biatch Musk is weighing in on his opinion, still trying score "gamer cred". The AC Shadows account claps back. The same is with Grummz too. The grifters really can't handle the truth and the success of a game where two non-white leads are the main characters.

https://thegamepost.com/assassin-creed-shadows-elon-musk-game-terrible/

Spoiler: The Game Post Article

[h2]Elon Takes a Swing, Assassin's Creed Swings Back Hard[/h2]

That's when Elon Musk jumped in. In two separate posts, Musk called Hasan a "fraud" and said he was promoting a "terrible game just for the money." Harsh words, especially from someone with over 200 million followers.


But then, the Assassin's Creed social media team fired back, and they didn't miss. Replying directly to Musk, they wrote:


"Is that what the guy playing your Path of Exile 2 account told you?"


The post quickly exploded, racking up nearly a hundred thousand likes and over two million views (at the time of writing) in just two hours. Many people online saw it as a brutal and hilarious jab at Musk, calling out the idea that he might not actually play the games he talks about.


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Later, when Grummz posted a screenshot from an article claiming Assassin's Creed Shadows isn't the hit Ubisoft "desperately needs," the account replied again: "Our game is out."


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Short and cold, just the way internet clapbacks usually hit hardest. This whole thing follows recent headlines showing Assassin's Creed Shadows had a strong launch, with 2 million players in two days after launch. While some analysts say it's not tracking as high as Valhalla or other major releases, the online conversation seems to be just as focused on the people arguing about the game as the game itself.


The jab about Path of Exile 2 isn't random either, it's a reference to Elon Musk's earlier controversy where he admitted to using account boosting services to stay competitive in games like Path of Exile 2 and Diablo IV.

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After initially denying the claims, Musk later said it was necessary to keep up with hardcore players, especially those in Asia. So when the Assassin's Creed account asked if it was "the guy playing your Path of Exile 2 account" who told him the game was bad, it was a cheeky nod to that drama, and a pretty deep cut.

 

[Mister Mumbler]

Honestly, as dumb as all of this shit is, I do fucking love how Vances big worry when this first all hit wasn't, you know, the actual mess, but appearing to disagree with Trump.

"Our planes will be taking off at 0600 hours at 75.100 and 40.031, reach a cruising altitude of 15,000 ft and approach the target from the SE before hitting it with 2 Mk82 bombs and egress to the North."

"Good. And Vance, how do you feel about Trumps policies?"

Vance:

 

[Silvanus]

So. We have a new article, and new details.

Tulsi Gabbard, under oath: ""I can attest to the fact that there were not classified or intelligence equities that were included in that chat group at any time."

Michael Waltz on social media: "No locations. No sources & methods. NO WAR PLANS".

Pete Hegseth yesterday: "Nobody was texting war plans”.

And now we have this....


So. They definitively, provably lied about the content. Gabbard did so under oath.

 

[crimson5pheonix]

So. We have a new article, and new details.

Tulsi Gabbard, under oath: ""I can attest to the fact that there were not classified or intelligence equities that were included in that chat group at any time."

Michael Waltz on social media: "No locations. No sources & methods. NO WAR PLANS".

Pete Hegseth yesterday: "Nobody was texting war plans”.

And now we have this....
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So. They definitively, provably lied about the content. Gabbard did so under oath.

I can't wait for them to start yelling to prosecute him. In the shitshow of a senate hearing they were asked directly if the journalist would face legal issues if he released everything they sent him. Glad he called their bluff.

 

[Seanchaidh]

the problem is not the conspiracy to commit murder, it's the leak about the conspiracy to commit murder

 

[Silvanus]

the problem is not the conspiracy to commit murder, it's the leak about the conspiracy to commit murder

Or, the effort to organise murder via an app that destroys the messages/evidence, rather than leaving a paper trail of these things as the law requires. Or the spectacularly cavalier attitude towards said murder.

 

[Hades]

the problem is not the conspiracy to commit murder, it's the leak about the conspiracy to commit murder

Personally I consider the problem how they use the situation to vent their sheer hatred of Europe while one one those total freaks is literally in the government building of the country they plan to team up with to do us harm.

Fighting pirates itself much less so, though the civilian casulties we know a Trump administration would do nothing to avoid certainly are a problem.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

So you missed Obama and Biden being called dictators?

So 12 people out of 748 called Obama a dictator?

Then going around and asking random people questions and only posting the most radical one like the following, “We’re living in dictatorship right now. The high prices, trying to get to communism, it’s not what this country was founded on.” You think people are as dumb as the people you'd see on Jay Leno's JayWalking?

When the president of the US says democracy is under threat, it's much more than just some kooks saying it. Plus, it was a main message of the democratic party during the election. It's no different than when Trump said the election was rigged.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/06/politics/biden-democracy-january-6-what-matters/index.html

As for Adolf. I suspect your view might be colored by a rather juvenile view of Hitler as some sort of demonic entity that magically came to power in 1940 to start a war, rather than a real life politician with real life policies that had a real life effect on the country he was leading. When people make the Adolf argument they don't typically refer to the idea Trump might invade Poland and round up all the jews. They likely refer more to the transformation from Weimar to the facist hellhole of Nazi Germany. And if Trump deliberately decided to run as a demagogue with an anti democratic message he has only himself to blame when people notice similarities with other anti democratic demagogues.

Don't even fucking go there, the US is no where fucking close to Nazi Germany even if you remove the Holocaust and taking over of other countries. Stop using such hyperbole, this is why your side keeps losing people to the other side.

Oh, right. So someone who was arrested and charged with a misdemeanour (for which there is video evidence of trespass), held for 1 night and then released on 1k bail. And you believe that's worse than someone being arrested and detained for two weeks without charge or accusation of any misdemeanour or crime, solely because the former is a US citizen?



* Zero evidence that they were 'illegals';
* I then provided you with three more examples of legal residents detained, including for 12 days.



Uh-huh, but I'm not using the terms "fascist" or "dictator", so stop waffling about this nonsense. I've directly addressed your questions. Yes, ICE targets people who aren't illegal immigrants. Yes, multiple people who're fully legal residents, without any suspected crime or misdemeanour, have been targeted by law enforcement for lengthy detention. Those are the things you asked about and I've directly addressed them.

The FBI investigated him for like 3 years and arrested him for nothing. What evidence? He wasn't guilty of anything.

ICE took them away, that's pretty high probability right there. I said BEFORE that all I saw you guys post was the 2 stories.

Then you can consider yourself as someone that I'm not referring to when I say something like 'ya'll keep using fascist and dictator for no reason'.

Was there an actual Trump promo card? What came with the Kickstarter fancy wooden box set was a set of decals to convert your game from Secret Hitler to Secret Trump.

Now you're making me wish I could play Secret Hitler more often, but it takes a lot of people to have a decent game. 10 player Secret Hitler is fun though.

Nobody I know actually has it but here's a link to it on BGG:

Secret Hitler: Trump

The Trump promo card is an alternative art card for the Hitler secret role in Secret Hitler. This promo card was originally given out at Gen Con 2016 to attendees that played the game at the Cards Against Humanity room or that went to the Concert Against Humanity.

boardgamegeek.com

 

[Hades]

Don't even fucking go there, the US is no where fucking close to Nazi Germany even if you remove the Holocaust and taking over of other countries. Stop using such hyperbole, this is why your side keeps losing people to the other side.

I'm merely explaining the thought process, and point out that Trump knowingly invites such comparisons. Personally I would rather compare him with Putin and Orban because they are closer to Trump on the spectrum. But all of them knowingly operate on a spectrum on which the extreme ends sits Adolf. They share a spectrum with him by choice, and thus lose the right to get offended by such comparisons.

Why is it suddenly the fault of everyone else that Trump knowingly runs as an anti democratic demagogue?

 

[Seanchaidh]

Personally I consider the problem how they use the situation to vent their sheer hatred of Europe while one one those total freaks is literally in the government building of the country they plan to team up with to do us harm.

Fighting pirates itself much less so, though the civilian casulties we know a Trump administration would do nothing to avoid certainly are a problem.

you don't need to tell me that you are a shallow and unserious person easily managed by those in power.

 

[Seanchaidh]

Or, the effort to organise murder via an app that destroys the messages/evidence, rather than leaving a paper trail of these things as the law requires. Or the spectacularly cavalier attitude towards said murder.

most of the mainstream criticism in the US has focused on the fact of the leak itself.

 

[Hades]

you don't need to tell me that you are a shallow and unserious person easily managed by those in power.

And how did your shallow and seriousness conduct help the situation? Seems to me those in power expertly managed you into supporting an outcome directly opposing everything you claim to stand for.

 

[Cicada 5]

So 12 people out of 748 called Obama a dictator?

Why is the number important? Again, Trump is not the first president to face such accusations.

When the president of the US says democracy is under threat, it's much more than just some kooks saying it. Plus, it was a main message of the democratic party during the election. It's no different than when Trump said the election was rigged.

Sounds like Trump and his cronies getting a taste of their own medicine to me. If they can throw around any wild accusation against their opposition, their opposition should be allowed to do the same.

 

[Silvanus]

The FBI investigated him for like 3 years and arrested him for nothing. What evidence? He wasn't guilty of anything.

He was on tape trespassing. They released him after 1 night. How is this worse than 2 weeks with no reason given whatsoever, no charge, no nothing?

ICE took them away, that's pretty high probability right there.

Being detained is not evidence of crime. That's completely obtuse.

Then you can consider yourself as someone that I'm not referring to when I say something like 'ya'll keep using fascist and dictator for no reason'.

Cool, then maybe don't keep hurling that shite in responses to me.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

I'm merely explaining the thought process, and point out that Trump knowingly invites such comparisons. Personally I would rather compare him with Putin and Orban because they are closer to Trump on the spectrum. But all of them knowingly operate on a spectrum on which the extreme ends sits Adolf. They share a spectrum with him by choice, and thus lose the right to get offended by such comparisons.

Why is it suddenly the fault of everyone else that Trump knowingly runs as an anti democratic demagogue?

Everyone is on the same spectrum and thus all sit on the spectrum on the extreme end that sits Adolf and the extreme left as well.

Are you saying the left doesn't run demagogues as well? Because they very much do. And Trump isn't anti-democratic. The people that removed people from ballots were not Trump or the republicans.

Why is the number important? Again, Trump is not the first president to face such accusations.



Sounds like Trump and his cronies getting a taste of their own medicine to me. If they can throw around any wild accusation against their opposition, their opposition should be allowed to do the same.

Because I'm talking about when a rather large group throw such claims around and it's common for the average person to say such things.

Then, you can't claim your side is better because you didn't take the high road. Also, Trump didn't start it, he was hounded for 3 years over made up bullshit, RussiaGate, that was a massive lie.

He was on tape trespassing. They released him after 1 night. How is this worse than 2 weeks with no reason given whatsoever, no charge, no nothing?



Being detained is not evidence of crime. That's completely obtuse.



Cool, then maybe don't keep hurling that shite in responses to me.

They why wasn't he found guilty? The Biden administration specifically target individuals that oppose their party.

I'm guessing there would be a story on those guys if ICE just detained some random legal citizens/migrants, especially because the story was on the media's radar already.

YOU replied to a response I made to Kwak where I said "people online acting like they are living in a fascist regime and fighting fascism is fucking hilarious" and then pushed back against what I said. I never implied you in that post obviously, then you come in and have issue with what I said, then aren't I to assume you are part of that camp that is calling Trump fascist/dictatorial? Why even reply if you are not part of that camp?

 

[Kwak]

Or, the effort to organise murder via an app that destroys the messages/evidence, rather than leaving a paper trail of these things as the law requires. Or the spectacularly cavalier attitude towards said murder.

Well, we know they're all psychopaths so it's to be expected.

 

[Kwak]

Then, you can't claim your side is better because you didn't take the high road. Also, Trump didn't start it, he was hounded for 3 years over made up bullshit, RussiaGate, that was a massive lie.

That's the only lie here, read the fucking wiki detailing all the evidence.