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I'd be fascinated to find out how on earth you've come to this conclusion.

How exactly does "understanding maths" prove that 0.3% cannot be an underestimate? Considering there will be cases that weren't hospitalised, or weren't confirmed; and considering you calculated it as a percentage of the entire population, whether or not they even had covid during the observation period-- both aspects that could easily lead to underestimation.



You didn't limit your claim to merely what people "need". That's a subjective value judgement. Even if immunity wanes, a person could reasonably conclude that boosters aren't necessary, based on low risk.

Whereas you indicated that immunity simply doesn't wane for certain groups. There's zero basis for that. Paul Offit never said anything of the kind. The study directly contradicts it.
Because I included ALL hospitalized patients into that number when it was only those with severe covid that were in your study and then ~2% of them got arrhythmia. It literally can't not be an overestimate.

Immunity to severe disease doesn't wane for normal people. Like I said, it could maybe in 10 years or 20 years or something like that, but not now.
 

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Because I included ALL hospitalized patients into that number when it was only those with severe covid that were in your study and then ~2% of them got arrhythmia. It literally can't not be an overestimate.
Do you not realise that if you're overestimating the sample size, it'll result in an underestimate of the prevalence?

Immunity to severe disease doesn't wane for normal people. Like I said, it could maybe in 10 years or 20 years or something like that, but not now.
Protection from severe disease relies on B- and T-Cells. They do not last forever for Covid.
 

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fckin called.it at the start: just another front for christian anti-abortion anti-sex anti-lgbt reactionary lobbying network! where do I exchange these psychic points for real money?
 
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fckin called.it at the start: just another front for christian anti-abortion anti-sex anti-lgbt reactionary lobbying network! where do I exchange these psychic points for real money?
Wonder how the alt-right. "true gamers" are gonna spin this? Hope it was worth it, you fuck heads.
 

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Wonder how the alt-right. "true gamers" are gonna spin this? Hope it was worth it, you fuck heads.
They have the "Trump is fighting this" argument. He is writing executive orders and pushing for legislation to restrict payment providers from excluding legal business they don't like.

Nevermind that Trump certainly does not care about the gamer thing and only does it to protect Crypto. But coincidently it helps.
 
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They have the "Trump is fighting this" argument. He is writing executive orders and pushing for legislation to restrict payment providers from excluding legal business they don't like.
And how long before the dumb, cowardly, punk-ass bitches realize that Trump isn't fighting gets through their racist and sexist skulls? If these fools or their echo chambers can't recognize the shit they're being shoveled in their mouths, then I am not thanking them. Especially when the people who truly care about real aspects of free speech are the ones fighting back and not sucking the dick of a biacth-in-a-boxstand and his fucking biatch-ass goons. If this is a future those grifters wanted, then they deserve it. Gonna b verye hard to get that porn game or any game with fan-service since you put the biatch in charge. The grifters love being fucked by their master, because they have no balls nor ovaries.

 

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He is writing executive orders and pushing for legislation to restrict payment providers from excluding legal business they don't like.

Nevermind that Trump certainly does not care about the gamer thing and only does it to protect Crypto.
I mean, the federal government started it years back with stuff like Operation Chokepoint. The earliest example I can find of US gov doing it involved niche pornography back in 2007, though I'd be surprised if that was the actual first time.

And he certainly doesn't, it's just a lucky coincidence. Though I imagine it's not just the crypto, many other otherwise legal businesses have been debanked over the years, often for being extreme far-right, I'm talking stuff like neo-nazi music labels which are much more associated with "reputation risk" than crypto has generally been.
 
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You just said you included all hospitalised patients, and that it "can't not be an overestimate".



Unless you read it.
You do realize 2% of hospitalized patients is more people than 2% of the group that had severe covid, right? If 1,000 people out of a million get something, that's a higher rate than if 100 people out of 1,000 got that.

Uhh... Remember when you guys were concerned that antibodies were going away and I said that didn't matter (because, you know, that's what experts said)?
Substantial immune memory is generated after COVID-19, involving all four major types of immune memory. About 95% of subjects retained immune memory at ~6 months after infection. Circulating antibody titers were not predictive of T cell memory. Thus, simple serological tests for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies do not reflect the richness and durability of immune memory to SARS-CoV-2.
 

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You do realize 2% of hospitalized patients is more people than 2% of the group that had severe covid, right? If 1,000 people out of a million get something, that's a higher rate than if 100 people out of 1,000 got that.
1000 out of a million is 0.1%.
100 out of a thousand is 10%.
10% is a higher prevalence than 0.1%.

I'm sorry, but I don't think you actually grasp how rates and prevalence work. It is not just "bigger number = higher prevalence". The same number, of a larger sample size, would represent a lower prevalence. This is how an overestimate of the sample size leads to an underestimate of prevalence.


Uhh... Remember when you guys were concerned that antibodies were going away and I said that didn't matter (because, you know, that's what experts said)?
Substantial immune memory is generated after COVID-19, involving all four major types of immune memory. About 95% of subjects retained immune memory at ~6 months after infection. Circulating antibody titers were not predictive of T cell memory. Thus, simple serological tests for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies do not reflect the richness and durability of immune memory to SARS-CoV-2.
6 months.

Please show me anything that indicates covid-triggered T- and B-Cells do not wane at all, years later.
 
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1000 out of a million is 0.1%.
100 out of a thousand is 10%.
10% is a higher prevalence than 0.1%.

I'm sorry, but I don't think you actually grasp how rates and prevalence work. It is not just "bigger number = higher prevalence". The same number, of a larger sample size, would represent a lower prevalence. This is how an overestimate of the sample size leads to an underestimate of prevalence.




6 months.

Please show me anything that indicates covid-triggered T- and B-Cells do not wane at all, years later.
I worded that wrong. I'm using the same sample size...

- There's 74 million people under 18 in the US
- There's 234,000 of them that got hospitalized for covid
- We don't know how many got severe covid / I can't find it
- ~2% of those that got severe covid, got arrhythmia

2% of 234,000 out of 74 million is that arrhythmia came out to 11 times higher than myocarditis

BUT the number is smaller because obviously not all of 234,000 that were hospitalized got severe covid

How you mathed it to claim arrhythmia is 40x higher I have no clue because no math gets you to that point.

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It's not on me to disprove your claim, it's on you to prove your claim. The fact that 95% retained immune memory perfectly in line with what I said. I said normal people don't need another booster, I never ALL people never need another booster.