How do you know I don't call politicians' offices and show up at town halls? I'm up right now with insomnia and stomach pains. You just happened to be an available distraction.
Since we're on the topic though, what else do you not do besides vote?
Democrats already proposing austerity before DNC even ends
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Since we're on the topic though, what else do you not do besides vote?
Because it makes sense, Obama didn't get it passed because he was afraid of getting rid of the filibuster, and or invoking budget reconciliation. Biden will too because Biden is to the right of Obama.
Forget it, apparently examining these statements in light of Biden's own stated primary positions and past record, and finding them to be completely consistent is "speculation" and "gossip". I was the one that authored that thread, and I was the one that included those links in the first post of it. Apparently we're expected to be tabulae rasae throughout the entire election and Biden's potential term, continually memory holing whatever position Biden or any Democratic official may have taken in the past, no matter how strongly taken, repeated, or for how long that position was maintained. And by no measure are we to compare current positions with past positions, or even contradictions between current positions as told to different people, and conclude due to their own self-contradictory nature one or more of them must be untrue.
But we're supposed to vote for him now and hold him accountable later, but not as long as it's through any vehicle for protest that may actually lead to real consequences that pressure public officials to act.
I mean I already ripped up my voter ballot application, and there's no way you're convincing me to dodge COVID-19 at a voter booth.
Also, don't vote folks it changes nothing while we are on the subject.
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Speculating, assuming.. IS some how more important than What Biden himself is telling us? None of it makes sense. What makes sense is for him to do what he feels is right, and from what he said, he feels it is the right thing to do. Biden is old, he only came out of retirement because Trump is a nutjob and he was worried. Biden has nothing to lose and could care less about lobbyist at this point. He just wants to do the right thing before he dies. He is one of those sentimental guys according to everyone who actually knows him and has worked with him. I do not think Biden is all that bright. I do not think Biden makes all the right decisions. I do think he is trying to do the right thing here and has honest intentions. He knows he doesn't have that many years left here, and the one thing him and Bernie have in common is they both wanted to see things done better before they go.
He is not this evil bad guy you are making him out to be. It isn't like he is trump. Biden actually does seem to have a heart here. He does stupid things and is definitely fallible. Hell the man can't open his mouth without putting his foot in it. That STILL doesn't make him a monster like Trump.
That is because it IS speculation and gossip. Biden is still telling people he supports the public option and hasn't changed his plan, until that changes, why speculate?
No dude, we're not going to protest vote because your feelings were hurt by us not taking you seriously.
You've made your solipsism and self-righteousness quite clear, you don't need to remind us. I'm still unclear how you think things will change if you just don't vote until your perfect candidate comes along. Or how you think complaining about Biden on a C-list gaming messageboard is going to push him left.
That's on you. No one told you to do that. It isn't like you have room to say Biden is making a mistake when you do something like that. LOL
Not voting is just erasing yourself. It is like setting yourself on fire and everyone ignores you.
I'm sure somehow it will be our fault by next year when he finds something about the then-current administration to complain about.
I am sure there will be plenty to complain about if Biden is in office, just so much less than what we are dealing with now.
In this particular case I think it's more like threatening to never come out of your room at people you've never met.
Sometimes I wish I could be invisible too, but this is not the way to do it. You lose all the fun benefits.
Critical thinking is hard, and we shouldn't do it. The only thing that matters is public release docs.
Critical thinking is vital to being able to pass anything in congress. You have to actually implement a strategy for anything to be done ever. Blocking progressives from implementing their strategy is the opposite of critical thinking if your goal is to have progressive results.
I'm not asking you to. I expect you to be honest about the choice in November, and not act like Biden is some messianic figure here to deliver us from bad orange man. Because here's the bottom line: Biden is shit, and he's made the mind-boggling decision to be advised by the same morons who threw the biggest gimme election since Eisenhower to Trump in the first place.
Critically thinking about what, which lobbyist offers the best blowie in the rotunda?
WHo is acting like Biden is some messianic figure? I haven't seen anyone do that anywhere tbh. He is an old extremely fallible man who came out of retirement to run one term because Trump was destroying the country and hundreds of thousands of people are dying due to the current president being unfit for office and NO ONE wanting Pence to take over. Biden may be shit, but even SHIT is better than what we currently have. It isn't even about Biden. It is about trying to give the few progressives we have in congress their ONLY path forward and not blocking their way. Why would we want to block the only progressives we have right now? I could care less about Trumps tan so I have no idea why you always bring it up. Trumps actual actions are a billion times more dangerous than his tan.
Right now we may need the progressives to put out to get anything passed in this environment.. but hey, whatever it takes to get that $600 unemployment reinstated right? I wish that was all it took to save the poor... it takes nothing short of extreme and awful corporate bribes though in reality. I'm fine with the blowies if it means my brother and his wife and kids do not become homeless while he is int he hospital.
Makes you think how many of these people who have been in the hospital for months had become homeless while they were in there and finally survive to have lost everything they owned.
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If that's your opinion of everyone voting Biden, that just means you're too arrogant to actually listen to anyone.
Then, in that case, I am not only not going to vote for Biden in 2020, I will also not vote for Harris in 2024 if she is the Democratic nominee since as you said she is young, and thus could still be a lobbyist.