Weeb revolt over trap censorship

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Revnak

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Hopefully excluded from the whole equation due to being a 12-year-old. Also after googling where Lily is from I... am not a better person for it.
Aw man hey, thanks for the nightmares, so cool to really live in such a motherfucking society.
 

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What you're describing is called repression.

It's actually the reason why gay panic is a thing, and why this joke exists.



You've been on the internet, and you're trying to explain traps to me, but you've not heard the phrase "are traps gay?"

The joke/question here is not "are people who self-identify as traps gay", the question is "is it gay to be attracted to 'traps'". The point is to illustrate that the discussion of traps is entirely bound up with "relations between heterosexuals and homosexuals (sic)" because that's the joke isn't it. The joke is based on the implication that if you are attracted to someone with a penis, even if what you're attracted to is their femininity, then that somehow compromises your heterosexuality and that this is humiliating. That is the actual trap, isn't it. The trap is that you might be gay, and thus that you might be percieved and treated as a gay person.

Fuck that neurotic shit.
Nope, that's not repression, that's a preference.

You know how when you get an asian steamed stuffed bun and it's all completely sealed so you can't see the filling. Well, when you choose the pork bun, you actually expect to have pork. You are not secretly repressing your desire for chicken just because your pork bun happened to accidentally end up being stuffed with chicken and you had chicken when you expected to have pork and were disturbed.

And this is not even as severe, the bun would have to be filled with something that if you were offered it you'd be completely turned off from eating for it to be equivalent. One time I was eating a plum and I bit the large pit at the center which was brittle and it ended up breaking in my mouth so I spat it out and in very movie-like horror there were these weird large-ant-like bugs inside the freaking pit, they had been in my mouth for a good second or two before I realized I had bitten through the pit and decided to spit em out, you can imagine how much that freaks you out lol.

The only mental framework for repression to be relevant here is one where people don't expect people who look like women to have the female body parts by birth, and that is not how people think. Pretending it is just because you think it SHOULD be that way, is called being delusional.


Oh and if you are into traps exactly because of the knowledge of them being traps, if that makes them more appealing to you as opposed to if the same char was female (such as for example Luka from Steins;Gate who is actually female in one of the loops but is literally exactly the same outwardly) then sure, that's gay. If you didn't know the char was a trap and thought they were female and found em hot, that's not gay.
 

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if you were to refer to a trans person as a trap because
Nobody does that. People who know what the word "trap" means know that it is distinct from "trans". It doesn't just mean "a trans person who hasn't had bottom surgery yet"

So now it's not about actually being a man or a woman, but about who passes or who has a penis?
I asked you for evidence and you didn't produce any. That's what I thought.

Furthermore, these trap threads disprove your hypothesis, because how many trans people enjoy showing off the genitals that they think "don't fit them", and that they may wish to get rid of with surgery? What woman is proud to show off their twig and berries? "Oh yeah, I'm totally a woman but let me just post a striptease and show off my dick to the entire internet"

No. If you're proud of your dick enough to show it off, you identify as male.
 

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This is incredibly inaccurate.
Okay, so transmen and women don't undergo top and bottom surgery to change their genitals? They don't have gender dysphoria? They're proud of the genitals they currently have and are proud to show them off? They're proud to live as men, despite thinking of themselves as being women?
 

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Okay, so transmen and women don't undergo top and bottom surgery to change their genitals? They don't have gender dysphoria? They're proud of the genitals they currently have and are proud to show them off? They're proud to live as men, despite thinking of themselves as being women?
Some, yeah.
 

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Then none of the words "men, women, transmen, transwomen" have any significant meaning and nobody is justified at getting offended at the word "trap" because it has no significant meaning either.
I agree that gender is largely meaningless.
 
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Nobody does that.
Both you and Dreiko have literally just done it.

I asked you for evidence and you didn't produce any. That's what I thought.
You are literally providing the evidence.

Furthermore, these trap threads disprove your hypothesis, because how many trans people enjoy showing off the genitals that they think "don't fit them", and that they may wish to get rid of with surgery?
A lot of trans people get paid to do that.

Furthermore, trans people have different forms and degrees of gender dysphoria. It's really not up to you how other people feel about their genitals. Stay in your lane.

No. If you're proud of your dick enough to show it off, you identify as male.
No.

Sorry, that doesn't even require an explanation. Just no. Your opinions on how trans people are allowed to identify or what their actions mean are meaningless because you are too ignorant to make that kind of determination. Once again, stay in your lane, don't make yourself look like an idiot by trying to talk about things you don't understand, particularly if you aren't capable of listening to .people who do.
 

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Both you and Dreiko have literally just done it.
I'd ask you for evidence that these people are actually trans to begin with, but I know you wouldn't be able to provide any, because you weren't able to provide evidence last time.

No.

Sorry, that doesn't even require an explanation. Just no.
Well, I am soundly defeated by these excellent arguments backed up with zero evidence. I fully concede the point to you and your well-researched arguments. /s
 

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Nobody does that.
Of course they do, it's a slur commonly used against transwomen.

No. If you're proud of your dick enough to show it off, you identify as male.
No. Obviously. Unless you've gone and redefined "male" in a weird way. Though, a lot of the existing definitions of the word "male" are pretty bad as it is.

Okay, so transmen and women don't undergo top and bottom surgery to change their genitals? They don't have gender dysphoria? They're proud of the genitals they currently have and are proud to show them off? They're proud to live as men, despite thinking of themselves as being women?
Some transwomen might have surgery to alter their genitals. Some might not, as they aren't a monolithic whole. Obviously.
 

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Some people in this thread think that one anecdote of a trans person being okay with the word "trap" makes it acceptable to refer to all trans people that way. And without exception, these people have demonstrated a willing ignorance to justify being shitty and bigoted to trans people. Motherfuckers are gonna fuck mothers.
 

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Some people in this thread think that one anecdote of a trans person being okay with the word "trap" makes it acceptable to refer to all trans people that way. And without exception, these people have demonstrated a willing ignorance to justify being shitty and bigoted to trans people. Motherfuckers are gonna fuck mothers.
They did? I could swear people were talking about referring to male anime characters who identify as such but dress and appear feminine. Nobody is even bringing real life people in the discussion, never mind real life trans people.

And it is acceptable, we all acceopt it. The only people who didn't accept it were the mods in that one subreddit because they had to usurp power in order to make people stop saying it. If people found it uacceptable they'd just agree to stop saying it by themselves. They wouldn't abandon their subreddit and make their own over it.


Of course they do, it's a slur commonly used against transwomen.
***** is commonly used as a slur against women but you don't hear people in the specialist dog competition scene trying to get the word banned from use in it's correct original context that refers to the female dogs, despite the thousands of popular rap songs that call women bitches and what have you.

If even that isn't enough to get the word removed, whatever misuse the word trap sees by rude people still has a loooooong way to go before it becomes just inherently rude or bad.
 

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That is adorably naive on your part.
Hey man I'm not the one who thinks everyone is soft enough to mind this one misapplied rude word. I think people have seen worse and the naive thing is to think this is worth complaining over in the context of the world around us.
 
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