Gal Gun Remaster canned for the XBOX One, still coming to Steam and Switch

[Elvis Starburst]

Difference Yakuza didn't ruined the reputation of Japanese games while games like Gal Gun did. Nobody but the most hardcore fans asked for these kinds of games. So I can't appreciate the fact that the industry had to deal with a bunch of bad cases that reduced the odds of localization.

Seriously though, what in the hell are you on about? I guarantee you Gal Gun is not the be-all and end-all thing that'd... *snrck*... "ruin the Japanese gaming industry's reputation." Either you have an unnecessarily large hate-boner for Gal Gun, or you have a bit of a guilty conscience, and you're busy trying to say you hate it oh so much, but deep down inside you know you can't help but go back to it.

A few panty/titty games ain't ruining the entire "reputation" of Japanese gaming. If anyone else thinks that all Japanese gaming is Gal Gun, then they are ignorant motherfuckers that had no interests in any type of Japanese game to begin with.

I mean, I can easily name one right here in this very thread. I'll give you 3 guesses

 

[Dreiko]

American Pie is 21 years old. If you think it didn't get pushback, you're naive

People are always free to give pushback. You will always have the weird prude crybabies who can't handle other people enjoying stuff they don't like. The good-ole "don't like this thing I dislike!!!!" mentality. It's just that that should never translate into limiting expression. No man, like with the gay wedding argument, YOU don't get gay-married if you think it's a sin, it's not your business what other folks do. Get that westboro baptist church for the arts shit out of my face lol.

"and that's why titty games starring children should be on every console or it's censorship"
Your ideals aren't the reality of the world. Malaysia is still going to censor the bottoms of feet, US corporations are still going to be skittish around child fanservice.
Importing exists for a reason.

It's less "every console" and more "the console this is an original IP of", since this game that is being remade was an xbox 360 game which was only ported to ps3 years later.

And yes, you won't test if you have free expression by allowing the Smurfs to be viewable. Only things that could actually be objectionable to some serve as a barometer for your freedom of expression.

This thing Malaysia does is in keeping up with their practices of publicly flogging people who spit their chewing gum on the pavement and other similar barbarous and backwards practices. It is an indication of unenlightened thinking. Of lack of liberty.

As a first world progressive person who holds opinions matching that label with regards to racism and feminism and all the other good stuff, one would think that there'd be unanimous condemnation of ALL of those sorts of tendencies even if they end up in forcing you to defend stuff you don't like personally, based on the principle that you're championing when you fight for equal rights for women and manbearpig-identifying people.

World's significantly more grey than "everything or nothing". Corporations want to make money. If they think a thing is going to cause them to make *less* money, they aren't going to do the thing.

Xbox wanted less-naked children, Pqube didn't, so there isn't going to be an Xbox release. That's the entire story

If xbox thinks something isn't for them, they won't let the thing be developed up to the completed rom phase and then reneg on it, they'll do what sony did which was never getting a version of this game to begin with. No, something else transpired here. Also, since this game is coming out on the Switch too, which is actively marketed as for kids, I doubt the xbox brand which is branded as a mature system would take issue with it for that sort of concern.

 

[Gyrobot]

Seriously though, what in the hell are you on about? I guarantee you Gal Gun is not the be-all and end-all thing that'd... *snrck*... "ruin the Japanese gaming industry's reputation." Either you have an unnecessarily large hate-boner for Gal Gun, or you have a bit of a guilty conscience, and you're busy trying to say you hate it oh so much, but deep down inside you know you can't help but go back to it.

The irony of this is people like Jed Whittaker and Michel Fahey fits that description what with Fahey's Etna tattoo while complaining about the sexualized content in Our World Has Ended, and my aminosity doesn't just with Gal Gun but also similar games localized during the time when Yakuza wasn't.

 

[Worgen]

The irony of this is people like Jed Whittaker and Michel Fahey fits that description what with Fahey's Etna tattoo while complaining about the sexualized content in Our World Has Ended, and my aminosity doesn't just with Gal Gun but also similar games localized during the time when Yakuza wasn't.

Wait... are you pissed because GalGun was localized before Yakuza?

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

As a first world progressive person who holds opinions matching that label with regards to racism and feminism and all the other good stuff, one would think that there'd be unanimous condemnation of ALL of those sorts of tendencies even if they end up in forcing you to defend stuff you don't like personally, based on the principle that you're championing when you fight for equal rights for women and manbearpig-identifying people.

"As a first world progressive person, you have to support soft-core porn games starring children" is a hellava galaxy brained take. Like, you get that the problem is the "children" part and not the "porn game" part, right?
What's a "manbearpig-identifying" person? Kinda weird to be randomly transphobic for zero reason

If xbox thinks something isn't for them, they won't let the thing be developed up to the completed rom phase and then reneg on it, they'll do what sony did which was never getting a version of this game to begin with. No, something else transpired here. Also, since this game is coming out on the Switch too, which is actively marketed as for kids, I doubt the xbox brand which is branded as a mature system would take issue with it for that sort of concern.

Sometimes the pitched product and the resulting product differ enough to cause problems. Happened to Interspecies Reviewers too. That one got dropped from Funimation and a Japanese station after being significantly more lewd than the source material.

 

[Elvis Starburst]

Wait... are you pissed because GalGun was localized before Yakuza?

I think we found the source of this little hate boner. Dare we dive deeper?

 

[Gyrobot]

Wait... are you pissed because shitty shovelware from Japan was localized before Yakuza?

I fixed it for you, just that GalGun right now is my main source of frustration with the audience who supports it acting like they are entitled to everything.

 

[Houseman]

I fixed it for you, just that GalGun right now is my main source of frustration with the audience who supports it disagrees with Microsoft's decision

I fixed it for you

 

[Worgen]

I'm very petty.

Here, I fixed it for you.

 

[Worgen]

I think we found the source of this little hate boner. Dare we dive deeper?

I'm not sure there really is much deeper, I think this is a puddle left by a dog.

 

[Dreiko]

"As a first world progressive person, you have to support soft-core porn games starring children" is a hellava galaxy brained take. Like, you get that the problem is the "children" part and not the "porn game" part, right?
What's a "manbearpig-identifying" person? Kinda weird to be randomly transphobic for zero reason

Sometimes the pitched product and the resulting product differ enough to cause problems. Happened to Interspecies Reviewers too. That one got dropped from Funimation and a Japanese station after being significantly more lewd than the source material.

People didn't seem to have that issue with that recent french film, using the justification I'm providing. Why the double standard? Are you now a qanon believer or were they not qanon and they had a point, or is it all just dumb and people should just let all fiction be fiction even if it's not made by a black muslim chick.


And this is a literal remake of an xbox 360 game. They knew what the content would be in it. Remakes just up graphical fidelity and sound quality. They don't fundamentally change a game from a state of being perfectly fine to one where it has to be censored.


Ishuzoku Reviewers was just not localized, it still was there to watch. This game is flat out not available for the xbox-owners out there, it's not like you can import the jp xbox version of it or something, so it's kinda apples and oranges. (and the original x360 is region locked so you'd have to import a jp xbox 360 and the old game too)

What you have is like, the anime studio in Japan reads the manga and makes the anime based on the manga but then they cancel it after the first episode as though they didn't know what manga they were basing the anime on, acting all surprised by the affair. You picked the thing to base this game/anime on, you oughta have known what it'd have. This being a remake and not an adaptation makes this point even more pronounced.

I long maintained that localization firms are trash so that is a much lower offense and if anything a confirmation of my long-held belief that learning Japanese is the way to go. But that doesn't fix situations where you can't even import the game if your only system is an xbox.

 

[Elvis Starburst]

I'm not sure there really is much deeper, I think this is a puddle left by a dog.

What I'm trying to work out is what the point of all this was. What was the expectation supposed to be?

 

[Worgen]

What I'm trying to work out is what the point of all this was. What was the expectation supposed to be?

Probably assumed easy brownie points.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

People didn't seem to have that issue with that recent french film, using the justification I'm providing. Why the double standard?

...are you being serious right now or are you asking why a movie about how the sexualizing of children in society is bad for both the children and society is different than the ecchi game sexualizing children?

And i don't know if you're that unaware, but Cuties caused a *hell* of a blow up. Conservatives are *still* claiming Netflix is part of the baby-eating lizard pedo cult over it

And this is a literal remake of an xbox 360 game. They knew what the content would be in it. Remakes just up graphical fidelity and sound quality. They don't fundamentally change a game from a state of being perfectly fine to one where it has to be censored.

You should probably give your copy to Microsoft then.

Ishuzoku Reviewers was just not localized, it still was there to watch. This game is flat out not available for the xbox-owners out there, it's not like you can import the jp xbox version of it or something, so it's kinda apples and oranges. (and the original x360 is region locked so you'd have to import a jp xbox 360 and the old game too)

Oh no, you have to go to a different format. Did you know that Xbox "censored" the original too? It might literally be the same issue with Pqube making a different call now that they're a bigger fish

What you have is like, the anime studio in Japan reads the manga and makes the anime based on the manga but then they cancel it after the first episode as though they didn't know what manga they were basing the anime on, acting all surprised by the affair. You picked the thing to base this game/anime on, you oughta have known what it'd have. This being a remake and not an adaptation makes this point even more pronounced.

...you know that stations and publishers tend to license anime before its entirely finished, right? And that Interspecies Reviewers (the anime) straight up adds ten solid minutes of almost-hardcore pornography to every episode to pad the run time that the manga straight up did not have? If you license an ecchi series and get delivered porno, it's perfectly reasonable to dump it. Doubly so WHEN YOUR VOICE ACTORS DIDN'T SIGN UP TO DO PORN. There's contracts and shit

I long maintained that localization firms are trash so that is a much lower offense and if anything a confirmation of my long-held belief that learning Japanese is the way to go. But that doesn't fix situations where you can't even import the game if your only system is an xbox.

...so if your holy grail is niche Japanese games with zero localization, why are you within 500 miles of Xbox? That just sounds like bad planning.

 

[Gordon_4]

I long maintained that localization firms are trash so that is a much lower offense and if anything a confirmation of my long-held belief that learning Japanese is the way to go. But that doesn't fix situations where you can't even import the game if your only system is an xbox.

The game in question aside, I'm gonna echo @TheMysteriousGX and ask if Japanese games, niche especially, are your bag then why are you bothering with the Xbox? The console had very little penetration to the local Japanese market so there hasn't been much drive for Japanese game pubs/devs to put their games on it. Sounds to me like Playstation should be your console.

 

[Dreiko]

The game in question aside, I'm gonna echo @TheMysteriousGX and ask if Japanese games, niche especially, are your bag then why are you bothering with the Xbox? The console had very little penetration to the local Japanese market so there hasn't been much drive for Japanese game pubs/devs to put their games on it. Sounds to me like Playstation should be your console.

Who said I ever got an xbox myself? I think that's something people are assuming here. I'm arguing for the principle of the matter, since I assume at least one person who only owns an xbox series X and no switch or gaming pc has to exist, just by sheer probability.


The only xbox I ever owned was the original one.

...are you being serious right now or are you asking why a movie about how the sexualizing of children in society is bad for both the children and society is different than the ecchi game sexualizing children?


And i don't know if you're that unaware, but Cuties caused a *hell* of a blow up. Conservatives are *still* claiming Netflix is part of the baby-eating lizard pedo cult over it

See, that's you being slippery again. Gal-gun is about a guy being shot with cupid arrows and having a comedic experience of blasting away girls trying to confess their love to him, not about sexualizing children, it just has 16-18 year old girls in sexual situations while being what it is.

Just like how you can claim that this game is not about what I described, but is actually about sexualizing children, one can claim that Cuties is not about what you claim it is, that it is using it as a handwavy excuse, and is actually just trying to sexualize children, too.

There's no way to prove either thing as being factually something that doesn't sexualize children, so either we adopt a principled stance for freedom of the arts and base our allowing or disallowing of things on the actual principle, or we allow every conspiracy theorist, theocrat or politically motivated grifter the run of the place. I do not care for the latter, personally.

You should probably give your copy to Microsoft then.
Oh no, you have to go to a different format. Did you know that Xbox "censored" the original too? It might literally be the same issue with Pqube making a different call now that they're a bigger fish
...you know that stations and publishers tend to license anime before its entirely finished, right? And that Interspecies Reviewers (the anime) straight up adds ten solid minutes of almost-hardcore pornography to every episode to pad the run time that the manga straight up did not have? If you license an ecchi series and get delivered porno, it's perfectly reasonable to dump it. Doubly so WHEN YOUR VOICE ACTORS DIDN'T SIGN UP TO DO PORN. There's contracts and shit

...so if your holy grail is niche Japanese games with zero localization, why are you within 500 miles of Xbox? That just sounds like bad planning.

The original xbox version came out first so it wasn't censored, the ps3 version was just released with extra content cause it came later. And hey it's better to get the game in some form than to not release it at all.

And no I have not actually watched Ishuzoku Reviewers cause it didn't seem all that interesting, I assumed the manga had all this stuff too lol.

I am not within any miles of xbox, just arguing about the principle of the matter here.

 

[Gyrobot]

The game in question aside, I'm gonna echo @TheMysteriousGX and ask if Japanese games, niche especially, are your bag then why are you bothering with the Xbox? The console had very little penetration to the local Japanese market so there hasn't been much drive for Japanese game pubs/devs to put their games on it. Sounds to me like Playstation should be your console.

The problem is the Playstation has abandoned more niche Japanese Games for it's market after basically alienating all the hardcore fans back in 2018, which in my opinion is a good thing.

 

[Dreiko]

The problem is the Playstation has abandoned more niche Japanese Games for it's market after basically alienating all the hardcore fans back in 2018, which in my opinion is a good thing.

These are the cero C-D (rated T and M) pretty girl visual novel games that have been released for ps4 within the time period you speak of that are up on Pasia at this point:




Literally what are you even talking about.

 

[Gordon_4]

See, that's you being slippery again. Gal-gun is about a guy being shot with cupid arrows and having a comedic experience of blasting away girls trying to confess their love to him, not about sexualizing children, it just has 16-18 year old girls in sexual situations while being what it is.

In the eyes of the law, a person under the age of 18 qualifies as a child and it is an offense to produce material of them that is sexual in nature in most countries. That's likely to be a barrier to the game being released unchanged in a lot of places.

 

[Dreiko]

In the eyes of the law, a person under the age of 18 qualifies as a child and it is an offense to produce material of them that is sexual in nature in most countries. That's likely to be a barrier to the game being released unchanged in a lot of places.

You just blast away hordes of girls who fell in love with your magic cupid pheromones while trying to confess your love to the girl you are actually into. It's actually just kinda silly and hilarious. Shooting girls with a magic cupid gun isn't really something that's worth worrying over, their reactions are just cartoony and over the top, it's way more tame than something like Senran Kagura for example, and that's released everywhere fine and it's with the same age range of characters.