Twitch removes famous emote

[Dwarvenhobble]

You haven't. The left have.

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Doesn't count they're not prominent enough or well known names

 

[Kwak]

Doesn't count they're not prominent enough or well known names

You said the left only criticise fox, here is the left criticising more than that, it counts, you're a moral coward.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Fascinating talk about the mainstream media in a thread about a temp removal of a streaming emote aside:

Twitch is putting in a new pogchamp emote, because of course they are, obviously

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

You said the left only criticise fox, here is the left criticising more than that, it counts, you're a moral coward.

The Left media of any prominence in any real capacity.

What when I say "People on the left have said x or acted like y" then post an example people keep claiming they don't count as they're not prominent enough people to count for the example. So I'm just holding you to the same standards I've been getting whined at that I have to abide by.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

"The Left", by your definition, doesn't *have* any media of any prominence in any real capacity.

Mostly because "The Left" has $20, while the Neo-Liberals, the Conservatives, and the Fascists have billionaire backing

 

[Trunkage]

Doesn't count they're not prominent enough or well known names

Maybe you should try them.

But I like how you discount something just because you haven't heard of them. Makes so much sense

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

Maybe you should try them.

But I like how you discount something just because you haven't heard of them. Makes so much sense

Don't blame me for operating within the rules others have chosen to try and claim I should obey

Only where you hang out

No.

That seems like a trite caricature of Black militancy, though not completely inaccurate.



Pretty much everyone on the left has either never heard of him or thinks he's awful.

 

[Seanchaidh]

The Left media of any prominence in any real capacity.

Sam Seder and the rest of the Majority Report, TYT, Lee Camp, Chris Hedges, Richard Wolff (and the rest of Democracy at Work), Noam Chomsky, Briahna Joy Gray (Bad Faith podcast), Chapo Trap House, Jimmy Dore, The Empire Files, Rania Khalek, The Real News, Aaron Mate (formerly of The Real News), Adam Johnson, Sameera Khan, The Intercept, Glenn Greenwald (formerly of the Intercept), Jacobin, World Socialist Website, Current Affairs, the Antifada, and so on literally all criticize MSNBC and CNN regularly. I'm struggling to think of any left media I've left out of this list. But they almost certainly criticize MSNBC and CNN regularly as well! Because the way both of those news outlets operate are huge obstacles to progress for the left.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

Sam Seder and the rest of the Majority Report, TYT, Lee Camp, Chris Hedges, Richard Wolff (and the rest of Democracy at Work), Noam Chomsky, Briahna Joy Gray (Bad Faith podcast), Chapo Trap House, Jimmy Dore, The Empire Files, Rania Khalek, The Real News, Aaron Mate (formerly of The Real News), Adam Johnson, Sameera Khan, The Intercept, Glenn Greenwald (formerly of the Intercept), Jacobin, World Socialist Website, Current Affairs, the Antifada, and so on literally all criticize MSNBC and CNN regularly. I'm struggling to think of any left media I've left out of this list. But they almost certainly criticize MSNBC and CNN regularly as well! Because the way both of those news outlets operate are huge obstacles to progress for the left.

So mostly youtubers and podcasters got it.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

So mostly youtubers and podcasters got it.

Yeah, like I said: the Left has $20. It doesn't *have* media of the kind of prominence yo're demanding we present.

By the same standards you present, The Left doesn't criticize *anything* because it doesn't have prominent media.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

Yeah, like I said: the Left has $20. It doesn't *have* media of the kind of prominence yo're demanding we present.

By the same standards you present, The Left doesn't criticize *anything* because it doesn't have prominent media.

I dunno there's some Chinese publications in the USA lol

 

[CriticalGaming]

These look like good emotes.

 

[Seanchaidh]

I dunno there's some Chinese publications in the USA lol

..?

 

[MrCalavera]

So this thread, about one twitch icon being cancelled have reached six paiges.

How many in the one about twitch's late atrocious copyright practices?

These look like good emotes.

I won't be pogging with DSP
Snake seems like a good substitute.
Poggers guy is probably the closest, but he's tied to a problematic meme, so that'd be going in circles.
Using Etika's face as an "excitement" emote would be too weird, based on what happened to him...
Tracer Pog... ew
Is that Unroolie on the bottom?
I have no idea who the rest are.

 

[CriticalGaming]

So this thread, about one twitch icon being cancelled have reached six paiges.

How many in the one about twitch's late atrocious copyright practices?


I won't be pogging with DSP
Snake seems like a good substitute.
Poggers guy is probably the closest, but he's tied to a problematic meme, so that'd be going in circles.
Using Etika's face as an "excitement" emote would be too weird, based on what happened to him...
Tracer Pog... ew
Is that Unroolie on the bottom?
I have no idea who the rest are.

I mean i feel like if you are gonna be so sensitive about what a stream might do in the future, all your pog emotes should strictly be cartoonish or video game characters. Especially if DSP could even possibly be on the list.

 

[Dalisclock]

Remember when you had the right to hold opinions? Remember when you could point out things? Commentate on the world and the events happening around you? Pepperidge Farms remembers

He still does.

He's just not entitled to have Twitch host his shit when he decides he wants to condone violence. Kinda like how your boss can fire your ass if you start spouting off at work about how nice it would be if the Nazis won the war. Call it censorship if you want, but your employer might decide they don't want to be associate with an extremist fucktard.

A lot of social media also has terms of service about encouraging criminal/violent behavior and if you violate them, you can go find another place to spout off.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

He still does.

He's just not entitled to have Twitch host his shit when he decides he wants to condone violence. Kinda like how your boss can fire your ass if you start spouting off at work about how nice it would be if the Nazis won the war. Call it censorship if you want, but your employer might decide they don't want to be associate with an extremist fucktard.

A lot of social media also has terms of service about encouraging criminal/violent behavior and if you violate them, you can go find another place to spout off.

So how far do we go with this?

Grocery stores?

Banks?

Public paces (Apple owns some of the spaces round it's stores now)

Hell should companies all get together and make like a database to share of people with views that aren't allowed to remove them from using the services maybe based on a score based on their actions. How would that sound to you?

 

[CriticalGaming]

He still does.

He's just not entitled to have Twitch host his shit when he decides he wants to condone violence. Kinda like how your boss can fire your ass if you start spouting off at work about how nice it would be if the Nazis won the war. Call it censorship if you want, but your employer might decide they don't want to be associate with an extremist fucktard.

A lot of social media also has terms of service about encouraging criminal/violent behavior and if you violate them, you can go find another place to spout off.

Except his tweet expressed sympanthy not inciting violence. What i saw was just a guy supporting the protests of the "wrong" side.

Now there may have been more tweets and fine. But considering the emote isnt his content, its only his likeness, then i still see the removal a bit of a knee jerk. Expecially since i have already pointed out the hypocrisy of Twitch's support system earlier in this thread.

As for you example. Your employeer cannot fire you for having an opinion so long as it doesnt cause disturbances in the work place. Holding nazi viewpoints (which everything is nazism now so that label is not only diminished in meaning but also is a highly gross misuse to anyone who knows the horror of what Nazi Germany really was), cannot get you fired if you do not express him in the workplace. Otherwise you can be hit with a wrongful termination suit as well as a descrimination suit. You cannot fire someone for beliefs, regardless of what they are.

 

[Dalisclock]

So how far do we go with this?

How far do we go with what?

Your boss has the right to fire you if you embarrass the company or condone violence. Because we live in a world where companies have 90% of the power and the worker has pretty much none.

I mean, I guess we could make laws that would require companies to show a very good reason to fire someone, but that would make the corporations sad and unprofitable and would be "Communism" because the government would be telling companies what to do and violating their Free Speech Rights to hire and fire on a whim.

 

[Dalisclock]

Except his tweet expressed sympanthy not inciting violence. What i saw was just a guy supporting the protests of the "wrong" side.

Now there may have been more tweets and fine. But considering the emote isnt his content, its only his likeness, then i still see the removal a bit of a knee jerk. Expecially since i have already pointed out the hypocrisy of Twitch's support system earlier in this thread.

As for you example. Your employeer cannot fire you for having an opinion so long as it doesnt cause disturbances in the work place. Holding nazi viewpoints (which everything is nazism now so that label is not only diminished in meaning but also is a highly gross misuse to anyone who knows the horror of what Nazi Germany really was), cannot get you fired if you do not express him in the workplace. Otherwise you can be hit with a wrongful termination suit as well as a descrimination suit. You cannot fire someone for beliefs, regardless of what they are.

You sure about that? That companies can't and don't put in their rules for employment "No hate speech, racism, etc"? Because support for Nazism fits into both. Not to mention quite a few of your coworkers might/will decide they don't want to work with you, leading your boss to tell you "You're not a good company fit. Bye". You act as if companies need to justify their firing other then "We don't need want you here. You don't meet company expectations". You also imply the US government really gives a shit about rights of workers over corporations and businesses.

There's also the everpresent "Bad PR" angle. Because the moment X gets outed writing "Hitler should have finished the job" on a message board, which starts tending on twitter, which makes the news, then gets picked up by somebody working for <Company X works for>, it's a short step to "You don't represent the company values we believe in. Pack up your shit". Because otherwise you get the "Man, <Company> knows X is a Nazi and keeps them on. Fuck <Company>!" PR backlash.