Videogames vs. The Movies

[MovieBob]

Videogames vs. The Movies

The movie and videogame industries have more in common than they'd like to admit.

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[Warachia]

Biggest Hit in Hollywood history? Lets see, Avatar, 2.5 Billion return, Gone With the Wind, 6 Billion dollar return. Might be a bit off there Bob.

 

[Throwitawaynow]

I havn't seen anyone in the game industry claiming hollywood is unoriginal. Can we get a source link? Or is this another one of those, "I see it, no one else does, I'm gonna write an article about it." things.

 

[Wrds]

Biggest Hit in Hollywood history? Lets see, Avatar, 2.5 Billion return, Gone With the Wind, 6 Billion dollar return. Might be a bit off there Bob.

I'm posting from my phone, so I have. No way of researching that at the moment. However, that might not be far off when inflation is brought into the picture.

 

[Bender Rodriguez]

Remember that Indiana Jones is a ripoff from the old adventure films from the 40s and 50s.

It's sad but true, still Harrison Ford makes it awesome.
Vital part of many those films

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

makes a lot of sense considering the current landscape of film appealing to the 18-35 action junkie. Even a lot of independent films have older male leads that appeal to a male audience. Videogames are no better with having just combat, combat, combat (see also Extra Credits on this) stewed from the aforementioned films. Heck, I give Deus Ex: Human Revolution a bit of credit since it seems to be taking cues from William Gibson rather than Paul Verhoeven.

And don't even get me started on women in gaming and movies. When people gush about Bayonetta despite her obviously being two steps away from her creator's blowup doll and bash Samus for actually bringing qualities that are (ironically) a WAY better representation of femininity and humanity than most game heroines in the last twenty years WE NEED HELP.

 

[Mr. Omega]

The mainstream gaming industry becoming a lot like Hollywood might be an unfortunate sign of sucess. Still, there is originality in both industries.

On a side note:

(How do I put this in a quote box?)

"Things are slightly better in the so-called "indie gaming" scene, but even that's starting to fall into the same follow-the-leader pattern indie movies did amid the late-90s explosion of Tarantino-wannabes: "Oooh boy! A hot new downloadable indie game! I wonder if it's a Super Mario Bros. reworking built around a single unique new mechanic and an offbeat art-style!?""

I feel this is something that really needed to be said, but didn't know how to put it. Thank you

 

[Warachia]

makes a lot of sense considering the current landscape of film appealing to the 18-35 action junkie. Even a lot of independent films have older male leads that appeal to a male audience. Videogames are no better with having just combat, combat, combat (see also Extra Credits on this) stewed from the aforementioned films. Heck, I give Deus Ex: Human Revolution a bit of credit since it seems to be taking cues from William Gibson rather than Paul Verhoeven.

And don't even get me started on women in gaming and movies. When people gush about Bayonetta despite her obviously being two steps away from her creator's blowup doll and bash Samus for actually bringing qualities that are (ironically) a WAY better representation of femininity and humanity than most game heroines in the twenty years WE NEED HELP.

Not as much as you think, there are plenty of alternate pieces to choose from, games (and movies) that have no combat and much better female characters, the biggest problem is they aren't mainstream.

 

[Tharticus]

That's a problem with both sides. It pretty much varies between video games now mainstream and movies still being the giant of the entertainment industry. A article on the Escapist was dedicated to compare video game sales and movie sales.

Of course, there's a reason why "Problem with licensed games" and "Video Game Movies Suck" all suffer from sturgeon's law. Somehow, I think both sides consider a "Take That" approach and yet, both are mirror images to each other.

 

[wyldefire]

Remember that Indiana Jones is a ripoff from the old adventure films from the 40s and 50s.

It's sad but true, still Harrison Ford makes it awesome.
Vital part of many those films

I hate it when people, Moviebob included, make these comparisons. Uncharted borrows no more ideas from Indy than Indy borrowed from the serials you mentioned and Star Wars. That's who Indy is you know, Han Solo in a different time period.

And I don't think Tomb Raider even has enough substance to say it's an Indy clone.

 

[Bender Rodriguez]

Remember that Indiana Jones is a ripoff from the old adventure films from the 40s and 50s.

It's sad but true, still Harrison Ford makes it awesome.
Vital part of many those films

I hate it when people, Moviebob included, make these comparisons. Uncharted borrows no more ideas from Indy than Indy borrowed from the serials you mentioned and Star Wars. That's who Indy is you know, Han Solo in a different time period.

And I don't think Tomb Raider even has enough substance to say it's an Indy clone.

I know, I'm quite the Ford fan ^^
Still i believe many never connect the dots.

 

[Warachia]

Remember that Indiana Jones is a ripoff from the old adventure films from the 40s and 50s.

It's sad but true, still Harrison Ford makes it awesome.
Vital part of many those films

I hate it when people, Moviebob included, make these comparisons. Uncharted borrows no more ideas from Indy than Indy borrowed from the serials you mentioned and Star Wars. That's who Indy is you know, Han Solo in a different time period.

And I don't think Tomb Raider even has enough substance to say it's an Indy clone.

You mean you don't remember that part in Indian Jones where he has to fight an Atlantian water demon?

In all seriousness, I agree, There is a huge difference between borrowing a mechanic, and having a similar product.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

Remember that Indiana Jones is a ripoff from the old adventure films from the 40s and 50s.

It's sad but true, still Harrison Ford makes it awesome.
Vital part of many those films

I hate it when people, Moviebob included, make these comparisons. Uncharted borrows no more ideas from Indy than Indy borrowed from the serials you mentioned and Star Wars. That's who Indy is you know, Han Solo in a different time period.

And I don't think Tomb Raider even has enough substance to say it's an Indy clone.

You have not done a "take that!" to Bob, in fact you've just made Uncharted's face even worse by inadvertently admitting it just knocked off A KNOCKOFF. That's DOUBLE unoriginality

 

[Warachia]

Remember that Indiana Jones is a ripoff from the old adventure films from the 40s and 50s.

It's sad but true, still Harrison Ford makes it awesome.
Vital part of many those films

I hate it when people, Moviebob included, make these comparisons. Uncharted borrows no more ideas from Indy than Indy borrowed from the serials you mentioned and Star Wars. That's who Indy is you know, Han Solo in a different time period.

And I don't think Tomb Raider even has enough substance to say it's an Indy clone.

You have not done a "take that!" to Bob, in fact you've just made Uncharted's face even worse by inadvertently admitting it just knocked off A KNOCKOFF. That's DOUBLE unoriginality

He wasn't trying to make a "take that!" to Bob, he wanted to make a good point that some things are similar experiences that should be enjoyed as such without people drawing parallels.

 

[Outright Villainy]

Remember that Indiana Jones is a ripoff from the old adventure films from the 40s and 50s.

It's sad but true, still Harrison Ford makes it awesome.
Vital part of many those films

I hate it when people, Moviebob included, make these comparisons. Uncharted borrows no more ideas from Indy than Indy borrowed from the serials you mentioned and Star Wars. That's who Indy is you know, Han Solo in a different time period.

And I don't think Tomb Raider even has enough substance to say it's an Indy clone.

You have not done a "take that!" to Bob, in fact you've just made Uncharted's face even worse by inadvertently admitting it just knocked off A KNOCKOFF. That's DOUBLE unoriginality

He wasn't trying to make a "take that!" to Bob, he wanted to make a good point that some things are similar experiences that should be enjoyed as such without people drawing parallels.

Exactly. I mean really now, there's no medium where the majority of stories don't make liberal use of "inspiration."

I mean, I can't exactly remember a quote I heard from my English studying friend (so I may mix it up), but it was like "homer inspired virgil, virgil inspired ovid, ovid inspired shakespeare, and shakespeare inspired everyone."

Related, I though Avatar was great.
Problem, Escapist?

 

[Jabberwock xeno]

I remember fondly that in the week of Halo 3's release, movie sales were down like 60% and it had made more money in a day than avatar had made in a week and a half.

 

[TJF588]

Just because I want a comment on the thread's frontpage (when I opened the article, it was at 5), I'll say that the first mention of "piracy" immediately made me make of someone...and then another someone. Someones for different mediums. At least gaming piracy should be a bit slower than movie piracy, since a game should take longer to get through. Then again, if a "try before you 'buy'" policy is in place, games could be burned through much more furiously than movies could - even mediocre -heck, bad- ones (how does one do a double-[word I forgot from English class for a parentheses-ish aside bordered by hyphens]?). At least the movies only require a couple hours of dedication.

 

[Dorkmaster Flek]

And don't even get me started on women in gaming and movies. When people gush about Bayonetta despite her obviously being two steps away from her creator's blowup doll and bash Samus for actually bringing qualities that are (ironically) a WAY better representation of femininity and humanity than most game heroines in the last twenty years WE NEED HELP.

You have somewhat of a point about Bayonetta, but Samus in Other M was most definitely not a better representation of femininity. She was completely useless, tethered to her surrogate father-figure like a dog. Don't even go there. She was turned into exactly the kind of useless, degraded female representation we're decrying. At least Bayonetta could stand up for herself.