Your the one that wanted an example to prove my point, you have no one to blame but yourself.Ashoten said:
Videogames vs. The Movies
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Yeah, games do rip off movies pretty shamelessly. However throwing gameplay in the mix drastically alters the experience of whatever it is. Any time a writer has gotten big writing a story that one of us could come up with by reading Hero With a Thousand Faces has done so by adding something unique to the experience.
I do understand your point overall though. It's almost kind of comical when you think of how much credit some people in the industry are taking when (in my opinion at least), video games have very little to do with declining box office takes. The only reason I and my friends don't go to the movies very often is because it's so damned expensive. There are very few movies that look exciting enough to pay 10 dollars minimum to see when I could get a DVD I've never seen before for the same price and watch it with all my friends.
Dragon Age: Origins ripped off Lord of the Rings, but did that movie make me feel like a wide eyed adventurer only to crush my dreams when it made me realize that there were no truly happy endings to be had? Of course not. There's no way it could have, because you can't interact with a movie.
I do understand your point overall though. It's almost kind of comical when you think of how much credit some people in the industry are taking when (in my opinion at least), video games have very little to do with declining box office takes. The only reason I and my friends don't go to the movies very often is because it's so damned expensive. There are very few movies that look exciting enough to pay 10 dollars minimum to see when I could get a DVD I've never seen before for the same price and watch it with all my friends.
"They're both bloated and unwieldy. They're both overly reliant on remakes and reboots. They're both refusing to work with a digital-age audience that's technologically ahead of them. They both treat women poorly at worst and dismissively at best. They both regard diversity as a checklist-oriented chore. Neither one wants to acknowledge that there might be other people in the world worth paying attention to, or telling stories for, than young white men with disposable income."
In my head, I heard a Southern Baptist Chorus. YOU PREACH IT TO TH' PEOPLE NAH, BROTHA.
In my head, I heard a Southern Baptist Chorus. YOU PREACH IT TO TH' PEOPLE NAH, BROTHA.
And now here's my example:008Zulu said:
Which is better written;
A Bug's Life or Modern Warfare 2?
Point is, all movies and games have shit and gold. And cherry picking the shit to try and compare it to the gold is just stupid and pointless.
90% of everything is shit, doesn't matter if its movies, games, books, or anything else. And both industries have such a stiffy for remakes/sequels right now its ridiculous.
I think thats abit old fashioned these days guy, its got alot more mainstream lately which is why dispite my next statment I generally see it as mostly a good thing... mostly.Donald L said:
Look what they do to series aimed at teens, series that hold some form of story after all the violence and swearing get mutilated out of it are milked to ash (e.g. Naruto, Gundam, etc) while those that cant get shuffed into barly exsistant adult swim time slots (Bleach, Gurren Lagan, etc). I mean I really dont like One Piece but what 4Kids did to it was... bad... and I wouldnt even be aware of Outlaw Star if I hadnt used Toonami as an exuse to stay awake after my mum at 14 to watch dirty movies.
Read "not even Japan gives a shit about." He is still insulating the same thing about the entertainment purchasing habits of the most successful and prosperous nation on earth, founded on the best principles any nation could be founded on. The Japanese do it so much better. The Japanese who make their kids work 80 hour weeks for school, leaving them to have most of their childhood in their adult years. That is, if their jobs do not make them work 80 hour weeks. The Japanese who still have a fondness for the "emperor" from the 30?s/40?s. The Japanese that have and had a far worse (demographic division/xenophobia) problem than the ?white male? issue here.Canid117 said:
As brilliant as Bob is, that insulation makes me ill.
Let me solve their problem right now. It's called economics.
Demand is down in a poor economy.
The industry's answer has been to give us the luke-warmly received 3D with a big bump to ticket prices.
This is the genius economics that has brought the U.S. postal service to its modern greatness.
What should they do? Lower the price of going to the theater!
Even during the depression people flocked to theaters, and they could afford it. They'd spend the day.
A trip to the theater now (in 3D with concessions) for a family can be most of a day's wage.
If I can buy a movie that came out earlier that year on DVD for $20 or less, what is there to encourage me to see a first run film, let alone making the theater a weekly destination?
And even more important, 2 words: Sullivan's Travels.
I can't wait for Hollywood's darker interpretation of that film.
Demand is down in a poor economy.
The industry's answer has been to give us the luke-warmly received 3D with a big bump to ticket prices.
This is the genius economics that has brought the U.S. postal service to its modern greatness.
What should they do? Lower the price of going to the theater!
Even during the depression people flocked to theaters, and they could afford it. They'd spend the day.
A trip to the theater now (in 3D with concessions) for a family can be most of a day's wage.
If I can buy a movie that came out earlier that year on DVD for $20 or less, what is there to encourage me to see a first run film, let alone making the theater a weekly destination?
And even more important, 2 words: Sullivan's Travels.
I can't wait for Hollywood's darker interpretation of that film.
Here's a better comparison: Star Wars (the original trilogy) or Mass Effect. How about Lord of the Rings vs Dragon Age? Or Inception vs Deus Ex.008Zulu said:
Now for examples of the BAD: Heavy Rain vs any other Seven ripoff. Gears of War vs The Expendables.
I can't really say that games are any BETTER in terms of writing than Hollywood is, mostly because games weren't founded on conveying a story unlike film. They're pretty much equal in terms of writing.
The symptoms are effecting the games industry as well. Motion control for modern consoles is in the same way a gimmick as 3D movies are in theaters. The games industry is turning to 3D display technology as well. Buying used games is in the same way a method of avoiding the high cost of initial releases, the equivalent of high ticket prices in theaters. For both movies and games, the two symptoms that currently plague both industries are:DoctorM said:
1.) They cost too much, and
2.) They aren't that good, or there are very few movies/games that are good.
The remedy to both problems in both industries respective to the previous problems:
1.) Decrease budgets so that unit prices decrease, and
2.) Create better content.
Which is better written;
The Godfather or Kane and Lynch 2: Dog days?[/quote]
I have not seen nor played either.
The Godfather or Kane and Lynch 2: Dog days?[/quote]
I have not seen nor played either.