21st Century Children and Respect

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Daveman

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I dunno about kids, but I still find shit scary and I'm 21. Last halloween, me and my housemates sat down to watch the original Halloween movie. We totally freaked the fuck out. We kept hearing noises from the house, we were afraid to leave the living room first. I think the kids aren't watching the stuff properly, and wanting to sound hard to their friends.
 

Jakub324

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...The fuck? I'm 18, so I've spent the better part of my upbringing in this oh-so-terrible century, and I'm not some barbarian. Every generation thinks the following one is full of savages, right back to Socrates' day. Nothing new, nothing to worry about.
 

A Raging Emo

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Istvan said:
A good example of the logical fallacy of generalization.
Ninja'd by the first reply. Damn.

Jakub324 said:
...The fuck? I'm 18, so I've spent the better part of my upbringing in this oh-so-terrible century, and I'm not some barbarian. Every generation thinks the following one is full of savages, right back to Socrates' day. Nothing new, nothing to worry about.
Basically, this. The only game that really scared me was Amnesia: The Dark Descent (and it's expansion, Justine). Does that mean I don't respect anything? Because I react differently to some people in other situations?

I think the reason that, dare I say, my Generation, and the Generation below mine, raise less fingers and hide behind less sofas than older people at things like Alien is because we've seen it parodied, redone, parodied again by another parody, sent in, sent back, queried, lost, found, subjected to public inquiry, lost again, and finally buried in soft peat for three months and recycled as firelighters. We're used to these things, and aren't as intimidated by them as we know, more or less, what to expect.

I leave you, with this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=594WLzzb3JI&feature=related].

Edit: Just to clarify, I'm 17; almost 18. I do consider that there is another Generation after mine right now.
 

Sexy Devil

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Read Hesiod. Apparently we've all been the worst generation ever since ancient Greece. Now either everyone woke up one day after the Mycenaean period and turned into terrible people, or we've always been just as bad.
 

Ashadow700

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I think you are generalizing way too much OP. You cannot judge all kids of an entire nation based only on the behaviour of the once you have meet.

Also, I just have to add that you made me facepalm when I read the line "...the problems with today's youth."
 

Zack Alklazaris

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This argument has no support. Simply not being fearful of something does not make you disrespectful of it. I too am not scared of Dead Space, Friday the 13th, Doom 3, etc. Mostly because those entertainment mediums fail to suck me in.

Friday the 13th while good for its time has become overused. It is now easily predictable and therefore your never really surprised.

The video games I mentioned while environmentally twisted seems to lose its power when they use the same scare tactic that certain youtube videos use (make sure you turn up your speakers!). Shit just spawns in front of you surprising you.

I prefer a horror movie where I am weak, helpless, and constantly running and hiding. Give me something where the only time I see the enemy is when there is a very good chance I'm about to die.

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I do agree that we take things for granted, but its not really a bad thing. For decades people have said kids have taken things for granted.

When I was your age I was running from tanks!
When I was your age all I wanted to entertain myself I went outside.
When I was your age we had to go to a library to find things.

Frankly we should be proud of this. That we have continuously given the next generation something that would make their lives better than when we were their age. You can't expect them to know what you had to deal with when you were a kid, they can't comprehend it because for the most part it no longer exists. Also remember they have their own problems, problems that you didn't have when you were a kid.
 

vaderaider

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I don't understand this thread,
I mean...I don't find 'The Thing' scary but respect it for having amazing special affects.
The same for 'Alien' I respect the build up of atmosphere and the design of everything.
I'm not entirely sure this is even what you mean...
 

Deviluk

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I know that when people who were insecure as kids face kids now who have confidence or traits we wished we had, we really really hate them. I remember squaring off with a right little shit for about 40 minutes, because he was saying he's had sex with 5 girls, and "how many have you? I bet none!" It was like being trolled in real life. The worst part was it was true, I was a virgin! He wanted to "take it outside", and I would've obliged except I was supposed to be on a date...yeah that girl never talked to me again. But if she has those kind of mini-satans hanging around, I don't mind too much. So yeah, respect lacking, but every generation has bad eggs. I think you have to attack them...with wood.
 

Archleone

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It really comes down to a multitude of factors such as upbringing, socio-economical status, sub-culture, etc; however, even the so called "good kids" can be disrespectful at times. Just a little something I've found out as a Youth Worker.
 

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I don't think having a fear of what the OP said has anything to do with this. I grew up watching terminator, robocop, Alien(s) and any other violent films/games and I'm still quite respectful and was too when I was a kid.

As for kids themselves, well their going to have good and bad days, you know because their kids and thats what kids do, hence why we have this thing called parents. I bet a good 80% of issues to do with kids can somehow be related back to their parents and their upbringing.

If your 4 year old swears like a sailor then that's your fault. If your 10 year old throws a tantrum because they didn't get something then that's your fault too, seriously some parents need to stop spoiling their kids, you're a parent not a friend. If your kids happy all the time then you're doing something wrong, they need boundaries which they wont like but they'll get over it soon enough. (End rant)
 

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I'm going to take the "we all had our turn at being the worst generation". What did my parents think as I wasted hours in front my SNES and Sega Genesis or as I walked around with brick of a Gameboy? I'm no less respectful for it, but I was 12 once and therefore I was at least for a while a douche.
 

Lionsfan

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EClaris said:
So can this thread be basically summed up as "Those damn kids"?

Because I feel like old people have been saying that since forever
/getoffmylawn

As for the OP: That's the worst logic ever and here's a surprise for you, in maybe 10-15 years those kids you're complaining about right now will start complaining about the next batch of kids, who "just don't get it"
 

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bigfatcarp93 said:
imahobbit4062 said:
Maybe I'm just a moron, but they don't find anything scary because they don't have respect? What?
Yeah, maybe I could have made my logic a little clearer there... my thought is that you have to respect something to fear it.
Shouldn't that be the other way around? You respect something because it's a threat.

Anyway, yes I find kids these days to be disrespectful and spoiled little bastards, but that's probably what other people thought of my generation when I was a kid.
 

SonOfVoorhees

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Yeah horror movies never fazed me, used to watch Evil Dead 2, Day of the Dead when i was 10 - SFX was my career choice as a kid. But old horror movies were more gritty and real, look at The Thing, amazing real effects. Today, all horror movies have shitty fake cgi and its filmed all shiny and new its laughable. Some movies even have cgi blood, fuck surely its cheaper to get some fake blood and spray it across the screen? lol

As for respect, most kids are fine where as others have no idea what it is. They give attitude and aspect to be given respect before they show any to you. Idiots.
 

Lt._nefarious

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I'm part of the generation mentioned and I think there is some truth to be had. Some of the British youth these days are the special kind of stupid where they don't know there stupid and think everything will just fall into their lap. The majority of teens I have been forced to interact with have never seen films that are considered classic. I get the no respect point but there is more to it Namely everything is being dumbed down by people in power. I don't have the right words to expand on this but I'm sure someone here does so let them explain it to you...
 

DugMachine

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Wait, what? Because kids don't find games and movies that you think are scary they lack respect? I don't find any of the things you listed scary and i'm not 12 year old I can assure you. My theory is that kids today are just desensitized with all the video games they play and other disturbing crap you find on the internet.

But seriously, how the fuck did you get lack of respect from not showing fear of fictional stories?

Amnesia: The dark descent scared me though
 

DrgoFx

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Let me give a nice little event that happened:

I was at walmart, buying an old copy of Transformers: War for Cybertron since I missed it on release. [This was about a year after it's release] When I was looking for the game, there was a kid next to who couldn't have been more than ten. He poked the casing for the game he wanted and left, I didn't see which game it was so I minded my own business. After I found WFC, I went to get the clerk, only to find the clerk talking to a woman who appeared to be the mother of the little boy.

This boy wanted Black Ops, but the clerk warned the mother it was rated M For Mature. The boy through a fit, obviously, like normal, so I went over and did this: "You know what kid? Life is unfair. Life sucks. You don't always get what you want. Shut your whining, deal with it, and be the mature adult here that your friends clearly aren't." He pouted at me, but with a sinister "I hate you!" look in his eyes.

His mother looked at me odd and I said "Be the responsible mother, don't give in to his whining. Make him earn what he wants. Make him do something worth the games, like respect you." She looked at me a bit thoughtfully, but then her son tried to swing at me, calling me a dickhead. I picked him, and hung him upside down. I then added respecting others the kid started fussing. All the while I turned to the clerk and asked for the WFC game.

He went off and got it and when he came back, I let the kid go and he walked out of the store empty handed. When I went back to the store about two weeks later with my grandmother for groceries, the store clerk recognized me and told me the mother sends me thanks for helping.

I feel good about that experience. I know I had friends with M rated games growing up. My parents kept a firm leash on me, and I didn't get a single M Rated game until I was fourteen.
 

DaWaffledude

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I think that's a vast generalisation. I'm "of this generation" and I can't even stand the idea of horror without getting nightmares for a week. Then again, this does ring a bell with a lot of the people my age, or at least what I've seen of them.
 

Aprilgold

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overpuce said:
I think that the general lack of respect and self entitlement stems from shit parents. It's not the kids fault that they were raised with a TV for a parents. Not the kid's fault that they come to expect getting everything that they want when that's what their parents do.

I've seen it when working in retail. 12 year old kid wants GTA. I warn the parents that the game is rated M and may not be suitable for his/her child. Parent takes time to read the back of the game. Parent says no. Kid pitches fit. Parent says yes.
Isn't the rating system more or less a warning for the parent to understand what the kid is playing and not a technical rule to abide by. I've seen mothers take their eight year olds to watch slasher flicks, did those kids get annoying in the theater, why yes, but that doesn't mean that watching that movie would have made them phycho killers.

A human brain is smart enough to tell what is real and what is fake, thus the reason kids play Call of Duty without turning into murderers is because Call of Duty is obviously fake.

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Horror is subjective, and I mean completely subjective. Along with different categories of horror striking different levels of emotions. Dead Space isn't scary because you got so much health and ammo that the alien zombie isn't as scary when you've killed off their neighbors Mrs. Crazy Arms and Mr. I Jump On Player.

Amnesia wasn't scary for me as say Cry of Fear was. Cry of Fear was more scary then Amnesia because I didn't have the safety of just turning off my light and sitting to avoid the monster.