Ah. I am terribly sorry for that then. Well, take what I said then and aim it at the other. Sorry if harm was had chap.theultimateend said:
25 Things a Perfect Guy Would Do
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you dont see it from our perspective to us thats very relaxing now its not my type and what i like in a guy ussualy but being playful makes us feel good. which would include playing with our hair hugging etc etc just playful things.Douk said:
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. Not the first (nor even the tenth) time that someone has quoted someone else and blamed me. Almost all on escapist too.My girlfriend would have fun insulting and then later beating on the women who subcribe to this tripe.
"Never runs out of love." What the hell does that mean?!?!?
And what is this girl going to offer in return should "perfect guy" actually want to watch the game? Why can't she smell his hair, or smoke a joint? Would she plan a date full of wonderfully adult things because he doesn't like having his night thrown together by a woman who is frowned upon by Hello Kitty for being childish?
And...WHY WOULD I DATE THIS WENCH?!?!?! I have a woman who likes sports, food, sex, love, the occasional fight, compromise, fairness, and a clear sense of maturity that can be traded in periodically for a goofy back and forth that NEVER involves political correctness. She also doubles as a bodyguard due to the face that she can benchpress me. Girlfriend WIN!!
"Never runs out of love." What the hell does that mean?!?!?
And what is this girl going to offer in return should "perfect guy" actually want to watch the game? Why can't she smell his hair, or smoke a joint? Would she plan a date full of wonderfully adult things because he doesn't like having his night thrown together by a woman who is frowned upon by Hello Kitty for being childish?
And...WHY WOULD I DATE THIS WENCH?!?!?! I have a woman who likes sports, food, sex, love, the occasional fight, compromise, fairness, and a clear sense of maturity that can be traded in periodically for a goofy back and forth that NEVER involves political correctness. She also doubles as a bodyguard due to the face that she can benchpress me. Girlfriend WIN!!
Sir you offically made my evening, day and possibly weekLullabye said:
You may even have a cookie
It would be much simpler just to develop robotic men for woman that need that. Basically that list describes a man who sacrifices absolutely everything about himself because of his girlfriend or wife.Chrissyluky said:
If you don't want the man you are with, leave them, don't make them change who they are. If I wanted to change who I was I'd change. these lists tend to be very one sided and if all I did was switch it to "X things that a perfect woman would do" these very same things would be toted as sexist.
"Oh sure a woman has to drive 5 hours to see the man for one."
or
"Oh sure women should just take a punch and just laugh even if it hurts."
1. Know how to make you smile when you are down.
Shouldn't this be a good partner anyways? Regardless of Gender.
2. Try to secretly smell your hair, but you always
notice.
This is actually a common activity of serial killers. Minus the noticing part.
3. Stick up for you, but still respects your
independence.
This one doesn't even make sense. So basically defend you when you can't succeed on your own but still act like you are succeeding on your own. If you can't stand up for yourself you aren't independent.
4. Give you the remote control during the game.
This one is based off a stereotype that has been dying out for years.
5. Come up behind you and put his arms around you.
This only works if she hears you, otherwise you will scare the shit out of her. Same goes for men most times. I DON'T do this anymore because I'm so quiet that I end up scaring the person. Try being 130 lbs and sneaking up on someone, you will give them a fucking heart attack.
6. Play with your hair.
Again a genderless situation. Most people like having their heads touched, it likely stems from infancy.
7. His hands always find yours.
Ambiguous and also a fantastic way of spreading various diseases that while not permanent will ruin your day or week.
8. Be cute when he really wants something.
If this was on a list of "perfect women" it would be deemed as sexist for turning the woman into a plaything.
9. Offer you plenty of massages.
Again...sexist if talking about women to men.
10. Dance with you, even if he feels like a dork.
This is someone imposing a personal desire on everyone. Would make more sense to say "doing something silly with you, even if he feels like a dork." and be even better its genderless.
11. Never run out of love.
So fucking stupid its hard to quantify. You can't force someone to feel something forever, forcing a relationship to stretch on is why many marriages either end in divorce or are considered by one or both parties as "unhappy". This also ties back to the "women just wanting a program." instead of a person.
12. Be funny, but know how to be serious.
Translation: Be Human. Yes...insightful indeed.
13. Realize he's being funny when he needs to be
serious.
This is called fluffing your numbers and was only added as filler. Because if number 12 is the case then number 13 is obviously the case because it couldn't not be the case if 12 was the case.
14. Be patient when you take forever to get ready.
This is genderless, but it tends to fall under being mature and setting a reasonable time for something. If you said you'd be ready at 2 pm be ready at 2 pm, don't tout your gender to get out of responsibility.
15. React so cutely when you hit him and it actually
hurts.
Domestic Abuse is only funny when its women. That's why you are supposed to cheer when the woman on lifetime kills her abusive husband or cheating husband.
16. Smile a lot.
Give someone a reason to smile and they'll smile. If you are a monster they won't. Otherwise this falls under "Be Human."
17. Plans a romantic date full of cheesy things he
wouldn't normally like to do, just because he knows it
means a lot to you.
I saw that movie. Later you walk in on him being hugged by a very forward crush who he does not share similar feelings with and accuse him of fucking her. 10 Minutes later after a few solemn background songs you will find out it was all a misunderstanding and take him back. Why he sticks with someone as untrusting as you is beyond me.
18. Appreciate you.
If you should be you will be.
19. Help others out.
Again Genderless and fucking stupid to mention. Duh. Yes. People should be nice.
20. Drive 5 hours just to see you for 1.
This sort of thing is why I can watch a dude fall apart when he makes the smallest mistake. Many young men think that they have to stop the world to be a proper husband. That is ridiculous and if I put this expecation into a list about women I'd be called sexist for expecting her to do so much when "She's already so busy."
21. Always gives you a peck on the cheek when you
depart from each others company, even when his friends
are watching.
22. Sing, even if he can't.
So this falls under the "Being Silly" thing earlier. Yes nice to see the list maker isn't still padding...oh wait.
23. Have a creative sense of humor.
As opposed to what? Being Carlos Mencia?
24. Stare at you.
Stalker or Serial Killer descriptor.
25. Call for no reason.
Then what? Do the awkward "No you hang up." thing. Again this is one of those things that is a common descriptor of a stalker or serial killer.
26. Quit smoking, chewing, drinking, or drugs - just
because he loves u that much to quit it.
If you didn't want to date a drug addict you shouldn't have dated one. Making him feel guilty and changing him through that guilt is bullshit.
Shouldn't this be a good partner anyways? Regardless of Gender.
2. Try to secretly smell your hair, but you always
notice.
This is actually a common activity of serial killers. Minus the noticing part.
3. Stick up for you, but still respects your
independence.
This one doesn't even make sense. So basically defend you when you can't succeed on your own but still act like you are succeeding on your own. If you can't stand up for yourself you aren't independent.
4. Give you the remote control during the game.
This one is based off a stereotype that has been dying out for years.
5. Come up behind you and put his arms around you.
This only works if she hears you, otherwise you will scare the shit out of her. Same goes for men most times. I DON'T do this anymore because I'm so quiet that I end up scaring the person. Try being 130 lbs and sneaking up on someone, you will give them a fucking heart attack.
6. Play with your hair.
Again a genderless situation. Most people like having their heads touched, it likely stems from infancy.
7. His hands always find yours.
Ambiguous and also a fantastic way of spreading various diseases that while not permanent will ruin your day or week.
8. Be cute when he really wants something.
If this was on a list of "perfect women" it would be deemed as sexist for turning the woman into a plaything.
9. Offer you plenty of massages.
Again...sexist if talking about women to men.
10. Dance with you, even if he feels like a dork.
This is someone imposing a personal desire on everyone. Would make more sense to say "doing something silly with you, even if he feels like a dork." and be even better its genderless.
11. Never run out of love.
So fucking stupid its hard to quantify. You can't force someone to feel something forever, forcing a relationship to stretch on is why many marriages either end in divorce or are considered by one or both parties as "unhappy". This also ties back to the "women just wanting a program." instead of a person.
12. Be funny, but know how to be serious.
Translation: Be Human. Yes...insightful indeed.
13. Realize he's being funny when he needs to be
serious.
This is called fluffing your numbers and was only added as filler. Because if number 12 is the case then number 13 is obviously the case because it couldn't not be the case if 12 was the case.
14. Be patient when you take forever to get ready.
This is genderless, but it tends to fall under being mature and setting a reasonable time for something. If you said you'd be ready at 2 pm be ready at 2 pm, don't tout your gender to get out of responsibility.
15. React so cutely when you hit him and it actually
hurts.
Domestic Abuse is only funny when its women. That's why you are supposed to cheer when the woman on lifetime kills her abusive husband or cheating husband.
16. Smile a lot.
Give someone a reason to smile and they'll smile. If you are a monster they won't. Otherwise this falls under "Be Human."
17. Plans a romantic date full of cheesy things he
wouldn't normally like to do, just because he knows it
means a lot to you.
I saw that movie. Later you walk in on him being hugged by a very forward crush who he does not share similar feelings with and accuse him of fucking her. 10 Minutes later after a few solemn background songs you will find out it was all a misunderstanding and take him back. Why he sticks with someone as untrusting as you is beyond me.
18. Appreciate you.
If you should be you will be.
19. Help others out.
Again Genderless and fucking stupid to mention. Duh. Yes. People should be nice.
20. Drive 5 hours just to see you for 1.
This sort of thing is why I can watch a dude fall apart when he makes the smallest mistake. Many young men think that they have to stop the world to be a proper husband. That is ridiculous and if I put this expecation into a list about women I'd be called sexist for expecting her to do so much when "She's already so busy."
21. Always gives you a peck on the cheek when you
depart from each others company, even when his friends
are watching.
22. Sing, even if he can't.
So this falls under the "Being Silly" thing earlier. Yes nice to see the list maker isn't still padding...oh wait.
23. Have a creative sense of humor.
As opposed to what? Being Carlos Mencia?
24. Stare at you.
Stalker or Serial Killer descriptor.
25. Call for no reason.
Then what? Do the awkward "No you hang up." thing. Again this is one of those things that is a common descriptor of a stalker or serial killer.
26. Quit smoking, chewing, drinking, or drugs - just
because he loves u that much to quit it.
If you didn't want to date a drug addict you shouldn't have dated one. Making him feel guilty and changing him through that guilt is bullshit.
So overall the list is sexist and stupid and frankly if you want someone to change everything about them for you maybe it is YOU who has the problem.
I agree it mist be a plus if guys played with her hair but this list is implying that anyone who doesn't do that isn't as good as someone who does. It shouldn't be a deciding point whether or not they handle her hair. Dabble in her do. Enjoy her extensions.Chrissyluky said:
That much expectation on one person is absolutely gross. Not saying there's anything wrong with doing those things, I just plainly don't like when it becomes a requirement.
All that I want is a great friend, a little attraction and a little infatuation. Not that difficult.
Besides, among the worst things I know is a man/woman who gives up everything, including friends, hobbies and habits to please his/her partner. Nothing wrong with pleasing each other, but independence is important.
All that I want is a great friend, a little attraction and a little infatuation. Not that difficult.
Besides, among the worst things I know is a man/woman who gives up everything, including friends, hobbies and habits to please his/her partner. Nothing wrong with pleasing each other, but independence is important.
Well, there's not much I can say about this list that hasn't been said already.
While I'm sure there are a lot of men out there who do stuff like this and have perfectly happy relationships, I know I wouldn't want to be in a relationship where my girlfriend expected me to do all of this, how much more so if she needed me to! I'd rather go out with someone who could be more independent, mainly because I have my own life to live and I don't want to spend it driving around on my own for 5 hours.
That said, there's nothing really wrong with any of this, and I wouldn't want to go out with a girl that throw me out every time I wanted to show a bit of soppy affection either-even it it makes her uncomfortable, likie I said I wouldn't do it all the time, just every once in a while.
I guess all I can say is that it's up to the individual, subjective opinions and all that, some women want this, and some men are like this, some women hate this, some men are the opposite of this, and some men hate dudes like this, probably because they're jealously of how much sex they're getting when compared to them.
EDIT: Also,
While I'm sure there are a lot of men out there who do stuff like this and have perfectly happy relationships, I know I wouldn't want to be in a relationship where my girlfriend expected me to do all of this, how much more so if she needed me to! I'd rather go out with someone who could be more independent, mainly because I have my own life to live and I don't want to spend it driving around on my own for 5 hours.
That said, there's nothing really wrong with any of this, and I wouldn't want to go out with a girl that throw me out every time I wanted to show a bit of soppy affection either-even it it makes her uncomfortable, likie I said I wouldn't do it all the time, just every once in a while.
I guess all I can say is that it's up to the individual, subjective opinions and all that, some women want this, and some men are like this, some women hate this, some men are the opposite of this, and some men hate dudes like this, probably because they're jealously of how much sex they're getting when compared to them.
EDIT: Also,
I've just lost it.
I get the feeling that this was either written by a 14 yr old girl, or a Beta-class male trying to make someone notice him.
I think that these days a lot of girls would be happy to have a boyfriend who doesn't treat them like dirt. I've known a lot of lads who clearly don't have a clue how to behave around or treat women, and they try to compensate by posturing and bragging. One does weep for the species, hah.
Let me just take some lines out of context...
Perfect guy, huh...
Does this staring thing include pre-relationship?
Like, sitting across from someone at a restaurant and staring intensely at them with the creepiest look I can give them? The enjoyability of staring is relative, you know.
And if my friends' opinions are any indication, me staring at them with my creepiest look for more than 10 seconds would probably result in some manner of authorities being called toward the premises.
Oh yeah, and what the fuck is #3 about? It basically means "READ MY THOUGHTS AND KNOW INSTINCTIVELY WHEN I NEED YOU TO HELP ME OUT OR WE ARE DONE YOU SEXIST PIG!"
"Serial killers" followed by "staring".MaxTheReaper said:
Perfect guy, huh...
Does this staring thing include pre-relationship?
Like, sitting across from someone at a restaurant and staring intensely at them with the creepiest look I can give them? The enjoyability of staring is relative, you know.
And if my friends' opinions are any indication, me staring at them with my creepiest look for more than 10 seconds would probably result in some manner of authorities being called toward the premises.
Oh yeah, and what the fuck is #3 about? It basically means "READ MY THOUGHTS AND KNOW INSTINCTIVELY WHEN I NEED YOU TO HELP ME OUT OR WE ARE DONE YOU SEXIST PIG!"
1: not play hard to get
2: not dump us just because you like the next eye candy
3: not be so clingy
4: understand that every guy sometimes needs guy time
5: understand that we are not (usually) cheating whenever we say we are working late!
6: respect our ideas
7: respect us
8: respect our privacy
9: realize that we must be judged to a different standard.
10:forgive us for being slobs
11:be ready to comfort us from a bad day from work
12:realize that we are not judging you.
13:not have us go out at the last minute to buy you something you 'absolutly need'
14:respect our space
15:at least play along with the idea that we run the household
16:be spontaneous some days- to hell with consequences!
17:respect our lack of lives and love of the escapist.
18:realize that the guy who is doing this is only because he promised.
19:realize we think farting in public is funny
20:understand that men are incorrigible and just roll with it
21:roll with life
22:be nice
23:be funny
24:be resourceful
25:be a WOMAN!
whew. almost missed my deadline. ill work on a more serious one later. yes, i wrote this within 2 minutes. not setting a deadline for the serious one.
2: not dump us just because you like the next eye candy
3: not be so clingy
4: understand that every guy sometimes needs guy time
5: understand that we are not (usually) cheating whenever we say we are working late!
6: respect our ideas
7: respect us
8: respect our privacy
9: realize that we must be judged to a different standard.
10:forgive us for being slobs
11:be ready to comfort us from a bad day from work
12:realize that we are not judging you.
13:not have us go out at the last minute to buy you something you 'absolutly need'
14:respect our space
15:at least play along with the idea that we run the household
16:be spontaneous some days- to hell with consequences!
17:respect our lack of lives and love of the escapist.
18:realize that the guy who is doing this is only because he promised.
19:realize we think farting in public is funny
20:understand that men are incorrigible and just roll with it
21:roll with life
22:be nice
23:be funny
24:be resourceful
25:be a WOMAN!
whew. almost missed my deadline. ill work on a more serious one later. yes, i wrote this within 2 minutes. not setting a deadline for the serious one.
HAHA HILARIOUS! And totally dumb. Here is my list, which is no where near as selfish, and are currently being fulfilled thankyou very much whoever came up with these 25 rules. (PS- don't read "The Rules". My mum made me, I read the first chapter and knew why she is still serial Bride at 50 something).
1. Loves me
2. Has his own life
3. Isn't a douchbag
Also rule no. 25, the QUIT EVERYTHING one - load of BS. That's manipulative. You knew he did that stuff when you found him. You can share your opinion about it with him, but expecting him to quit activity "x" just 'cause you want him to? If it isn't affecting your relationship it shouldn't matter. And if it is, you signed up for it, you can sign off too.
1. Loves me
2. Has his own life
3. Isn't a douchbag
Also rule no. 25, the QUIT EVERYTHING one - load of BS. That's manipulative. You knew he did that stuff when you found him. You can share your opinion about it with him, but expecting him to quit activity "x" just 'cause you want him to? If it isn't affecting your relationship it shouldn't matter. And if it is, you signed up for it, you can sign off too.