300's Sequel Stars The Bad Guy

TheDooD

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I saw the title and I thought Scott Hall got all cleaned up and is looking like Razor Ramon. I got my hopes up WAY too high this time.
 

Awexsome

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What...? I honestly thought that the new movie, "Immortals" was the next 300 sequel/spin-off thing.

I honestly did.
 

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Sober Thal said:
To the people saying why bother with another movie... the Spartans died defending a retreat... don't you wanna see what happens to the people they wanted to save?
Actually the final minutes of the movie were of some 20,000 greeks and spartans charging the Persian army, leaving the inevitable slaughter of the Persian army to our imaginations which worked pretty well for a conclusion I thought.

Also, Artemisia? Really? That's the battle you're going with? I mean why go with Artemisia and not Salamis, unless of course you were going to do Salamis in another sequel...

Oh...OH...

I see what you did there.
 

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THIS...

IS...

STUPID!

OT: I'm sure there will be new jokes popping up before the movie even comes out.
 

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Cpt Corallis said:
Okay, WTF? Themistocles? Seriously?
While this does give the potential for awesome naval battle scenes, It doesn't sound like this is going to please the historians anymore than 300 did...
300 was not meant to be historically correct. It was based of a dramatized comic book story about the same battle. And the comic was indeed awesome, but still not to be confused with reality.

The_root_of_all_evil said:
vansau said:
(though Frank Miller has since announced he's working on a story set in the same universe).
Uh, Frank...this happened in OUR universe...it's loosely based on historical fact.
That is besides the point. It's a comic book. New York is in "our" universe, but no one cares that Spiderman happens there. Also, as you said yourself, it's based loosely off of historical events.
 

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Let's make sequels to EVERYTHING!!!!
Minecraft 2
Brink 2
Portal 3
Team Fortress 3
(Do you see where I'm going with these?)
 
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Baresark said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
vansau said:
(though Frank Miller has since announced he's working on a story set in the same universe).
Uh, Frank...this happened in OUR universe...it's loosely based on historical fact.
That is besides the point.
I think not.
It's a comic book.
No, it's a film.
New York is in "our" universe, but no one cares that Spiderman happens there.
You're confusing universes. Ours is 1218, Spiderman is 616. 8311 would be looking for Peter Porker, the Spiderham.
Also, as you said yourself, it's based loosely off of historical events.
Which means that if it's an alternate universe, you have to de-lineate what differences there have been. This is the job of the scriptwriter, which they haven't hired yet.
 

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300 starring the Persians? Movie title: 300,000

My question is how can they make the persians likable? They were portrayed so harshly in the first movie how can they possibly turn that around?
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Baresark said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
vansau said:
(though Frank Miller has since announced he's working on a story set in the same universe).
Uh, Frank...this happened in OUR universe...it's loosely based on historical fact.
That is besides the point.
I think not.
Of course it is. This is a work of fiction. It's a common occurrence when people harp on 300 based on the fact that it is inaccurate. My advice would to avoid comic book culture. Or at very least align yourself with the reality that it's a work of fiction based very loosely off real events.

It's a comic book.
No, it's a film.
Frank is responsible for the comic though. Not the sequel. He is also responsible for the first comic, not the film, the movie company is responsible for the that. Along with the script writer.
Also, as you said yourself, it's based loosely off of historical events.
Which means that if it's an alternate universe, you have to de-lineate what differences there have been. This is the job of the scriptwriter, which they haven't hired yet.
It is delineated, by the events of the first movie. The only way it fits our reality is the most basic points of the event. The Persians attacked, there was a battle, and the Spartans fell after 3 days. None of the other events were aligned with reality. So, there is your delineation.
 

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I realized I never actually gave my opinion on this article.

Meh, who cares. I'm sure it won't be that good. They even are gonna have, what, a Zack Snyder clone direct the movie. I'm not a huge fan of his work and his film style, though he has been successful with it. He is also not making 10 movies a year. So more who copy him is a bad idea.

From a comic book perspective, it's not uncommon for their to be books from the perspective of the bad guys.
 

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Xan Krieger said:
300 starring the Persians? Movie title: 300,000

My question is how can they make the persians likable? They were portrayed so harshly in the first movie how can they possibly turn that around?
By not doing so? A couple of my favorite games had you playing the "obvious bad guy", and they were great. Movies could do the same.
 

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It's not like there isn't enough Greek History to change to your will.

There was more wars in Greece than just Sparta and Persia ya know?
 

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lacktheknack said:
Xan Krieger said:
300 starring the Persians? Movie title: 300,000

My question is how can they make the persians likable? They were portrayed so harshly in the first movie how can they possibly turn that around?
By not doing so? A couple of my favorite games had you playing the "obvious bad guy", and they were great. Movies could do the same.
Which games? I know silent hunter has you being the germans but other than sandbox games that let you be the bad guy I can't exactly think of one. Can you name a few? I'm interested in the idea, I'm sick of being the good guys.
 

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Shouldn't a sequel be about how the Athenians won the war the Spartans lost and drove the Persians back into Anatolia?
 

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Xan Krieger said:
lacktheknack said:
Xan Krieger said:
300 starring the Persians? Movie title: 300,000

My question is how can they make the persians likable? They were portrayed so harshly in the first movie how can they possibly turn that around?
By not doing so? A couple of my favorite games had you playing the "obvious bad guy", and they were great. Movies could do the same.
Which games? I know silent hunter has you being the germans but other than sandbox games that let you be the bad guy I can't exactly think of one. Can you name a few? I'm interested in the idea, I'm sick of being the good guys.
Geneforge springs to mind, a game series which seems to have a pretty clear "good/evil" scale at first glance (and you're solidly on the "evil" side) but everything goes fuzzy really quickly. I also like Overlord, but I think I'm alone on that one.