I agree with bringing back striders, or perhaps the skyrim equivilent. Being able to fast travel anywhere at almost any time in oblivion encouraged laziness and as a result, the world kinda lost its magic compared with Morrowind.
5 Tiny Things I Hope Get Changed in Skyrim
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NO FRICKKIN GIANT SPIDERS!!!!
Or at least make them optional. The fact they are including them + my rather strong case of arachnophobia means I probably won't get this game because I don't want to run into them and have to explain how playing a video game has given me a panic attack.
NO FRICKKIN GIANT SPIDERS!!!!
Or at least make them optional. The fact they are including them + my rather strong case of arachnophobia means I probably won't get this game because I don't want to run into them and have to explain how playing a video game has given me a panic attack.
I, too, am a house-arranging pack rat in Bethesda games who has lost hours to making sure THIS sword goes just so on the shelf and THAT helmet is properly displayed amongst the others...glad to know I'm not alone in wanting that mechanic to be tweaked a little.
I should probably try to beat my copy of Oblivion sometime, but I'm too lazy to mod it the way I want it to be.
I'd like the stilt striders, too, but as someone else suggested, keeping the optional map click would be helpful as well. Sometimes, I'd enjoy just sitting back and letting a stilt rider take me. Other times, I'd probably click on a map point because I didn't want to/have time to wait.
For me, the "minor" thing I'd change is the psychic-link of guards on other sides of the world. When I liberated a horse from this Orc who made it clear that she ate them, every guard on the road just magically knew my crime and came after me. I'd manage to shake one, and miles later run into another who came after me like they had a personal vendetta. Eventually I found a mod that changed that, but still. That was one of my minor annoyances.
That and the lack of wisdom in this one bandit who chased me INTO a building populated with armed forces. I managed to escape a roadside bandit during combat and ran into a large building (might've been an Abbey?) where some knights were hanging out. The bandit followed me; came all the way upstairs to where I was talking to another NPC. Everyone in the building dropped what they were doing and killed him, which was hilarious. But it just seemed silly that he even chased me for that long since I had left him in the dust well before I reached the knights.
I'd like the stilt striders, too, but as someone else suggested, keeping the optional map click would be helpful as well. Sometimes, I'd enjoy just sitting back and letting a stilt rider take me. Other times, I'd probably click on a map point because I didn't want to/have time to wait.
For me, the "minor" thing I'd change is the psychic-link of guards on other sides of the world. When I liberated a horse from this Orc who made it clear that she ate them, every guard on the road just magically knew my crime and came after me. I'd manage to shake one, and miles later run into another who came after me like they had a personal vendetta. Eventually I found a mod that changed that, but still. That was one of my minor annoyances.
That and the lack of wisdom in this one bandit who chased me INTO a building populated with armed forces. I managed to escape a roadside bandit during combat and ran into a large building (might've been an Abbey?) where some knights were hanging out. The bandit followed me; came all the way upstairs to where I was talking to another NPC. Everyone in the building dropped what they were doing and killed him, which was hilarious. But it just seemed silly that he even chased me for that long since I had left him in the dust well before I reached the knights.
I wonder if perhaps the reason for having psychic hive-mind guards was to increase the risk involved in breaking the law. If it was just a matter of equipping then removing a helmet or staying away from a specific area for some time then there would be no need for stealth or subtlety; potentially it could become less challenging (not that it was any sort of challenge when you had a high illusion skill and the right items).
They've actually implemented the one change that I always wanted to see: the ability to put whatever you want in whichever hand. I'm one of these awkward left-handed types. Every game since the dawn of time has featured characters wielding their main weapon in their right hand by default. It's so good to finally have the choice.
Yeah, that's about as petty as you can get. But there we go.
Yeah, that's about as petty as you can get. But there we go.
1. Yeah, too easy and too unfair at times, the game was crap.
2. Love this idea, do it Bethesda
3. If BioWare can have the NPC's making pointless banter I wanna stop and listen/watch, then surely BethSoft can do the same
4. Doesn't bother me that much and New Vegas' voice cast consisted of a lot of my favorites (Yuri Lowenthal and Laura Bailey to be specific) so as long as it gets the usual gaming/animation voice acting vets I'll be happy
5. I'm not sure I would agree with the silt striders so much as a 'revised' fast travel system... Maybe some underground series of portals that provide jumps between major cities that are unlocked upon completion of certain demands, each one being accessible by a various amount of quests.
Specifically on that last one, it would be like completing X guild quest chain or helping NPC x that led into the super secret x quest line unlocked it and lastly, completing parts of the MAIN storyline would unlock it.
I won't be surprised if perhaps there are dragonshouts that may be tied into fast travel, hmmm?
2. Love this idea, do it Bethesda
3. If BioWare can have the NPC's making pointless banter I wanna stop and listen/watch, then surely BethSoft can do the same
4. Doesn't bother me that much and New Vegas' voice cast consisted of a lot of my favorites (Yuri Lowenthal and Laura Bailey to be specific) so as long as it gets the usual gaming/animation voice acting vets I'll be happy
5. I'm not sure I would agree with the silt striders so much as a 'revised' fast travel system... Maybe some underground series of portals that provide jumps between major cities that are unlocked upon completion of certain demands, each one being accessible by a various amount of quests.
Specifically on that last one, it would be like completing X guild quest chain or helping NPC x that led into the super secret x quest line unlocked it and lastly, completing parts of the MAIN storyline would unlock it.
I won't be surprised if perhaps there are dragonshouts that may be tied into fast travel, hmmm?
I'd love it if QA would do their work. I still have my save with the broken main quest from Oblivion. D:
Yes, I liked Morrowind better, with levitation and all the other extras that they left out of Oblivion for the sake of convenience. I still remember my house that I liberated from a local gang... I had almost all of the house Dagon in soul stones there neatly arranged! That house was so full of junk my framerate was about tenth or even less than outside in battle. Yes, I collected almost every book in the game, every type of weapon, armor, had a trapped soul of every creature, had a room literally full of potions and booze, enough musical instruments to start a couple of bands and a neat pile of I think skulls.
I had tremendous fun in that game and still have my huge printed map of it. Unfortunately, Oblivion did not live up to that level, even with all those mods I installed.
Yes, I liked Morrowind better, with levitation and all the other extras that they left out of Oblivion for the sake of convenience. I still remember my house that I liberated from a local gang... I had almost all of the house Dagon in soul stones there neatly arranged! That house was so full of junk my framerate was about tenth or even less than outside in battle. Yes, I collected almost every book in the game, every type of weapon, armor, had a trapped soul of every creature, had a room literally full of potions and booze, enough musical instruments to start a couple of bands and a neat pile of I think skulls.
I had tremendous fun in that game and still have my huge printed map of it. Unfortunately, Oblivion did not live up to that level, even with all those mods I installed.
I'm in total agreement with the exception of one thing: I don't think this stuff is unimportant!Susan Arendt said:
Even MMOs used to provide all of these things--particularly the full-access house decoration--so there's no excuse for them to be missing from single-player RPGs that seem to be all about immersion. Two of the rules of immersion (in my humble opinion) are thus:
1. Immersion requires letting your player perform actions that make sense to them in real life. Sitting in chairs, moving a table, these are included in that. If you think to include a chair, spare a moment to allow character models to sit in it at will.
2. Immersion requires choices, and choices require variety. If you're going to include voices, include enough that they're not overlapping too often. If you want social gameplay (like the persuasion wheel) make sure that different encounters feel different.
Corollary to 2: If you're not going to provide enough choices, consider leaving that element out. Otherwise, it only draws attention to the lack of choices. Only 3 tattoos? Just leave them out. Can't sit in chairs? Omit them.
The danger music.
It was really weird when you know you are being attacked just by the change in music. Hated it when it would just start playing and there was no enemy in sight.
It was really weird when you know you are being attacked just by the change in music. Hated it when it would just start playing and there was no enemy in sight.
I think that bringing back Silt Striders and getting rid of Oblivion's version of fast travelling would be awesome. I didn't like how all I had to do to travel anywhere in that game was click on my destination on the map screen, from anywhere. Silt Striders are better because they cost money to use and you have to find them in major cities, so it makes the fast travelling feel more like part of the game rather than your character having some random teleportaion device always at their disposal.
My 2 main points are:
1) Please don't make the characters ugly to the point of looking inbred
2) Please take more time in getting different actors to voice, I mean I know there's a lot of dialogue and it takes a lot of work, but it just gets plain disturbing after a while, when it sounds like the whole game is done by 4 people. Even the ogres fgs.
another point, but probably too major to include here, is add some variety and skill into the combat please. It feels a lot like...what's that game now dammit...oh yeah, Risen.
1) Please don't make the characters ugly to the point of looking inbred
2) Please take more time in getting different actors to voice, I mean I know there's a lot of dialogue and it takes a lot of work, but it just gets plain disturbing after a while, when it sounds like the whole game is done by 4 people. Even the ogres fgs.
another point, but probably too major to include here, is add some variety and skill into the combat please. It feels a lot like...what's that game now dammit...oh yeah, Risen.
I think the skill sets need to be revised again. And by revised i don't mean stripped down to bear bones RPG elements for the console tards. No, It just needs to have some skill sets seperated and some skills collapsed in. i dunno if i wanna go back to the skills hell morrowind was but at least it left room for specialisation. Getting 100 in any skill felt like an accomplishment. getting it in oblivion felt much less so. And on top of all that in morrowind after getting to that 100 you could start training in something else. In oblivion the stupid leveling system made that nigh on impossible and switching to another set of skills to much of a gear change. And even if you did bypass that stuff it was still a hollow victory to hit the 100 mark.
Also stilt strider = YES. it doesn't even have to be a crazy transportation animal just a caravan or boats. Just a sytem that allows fast travel to certain specific points not just where ever i click.
Whatever i'm bias, i will always hold morrowind up as a shining example of a western RPG and great game. Oblivion for all it's upgrades and new features always felt hollow and just not as good.
Also stilt strider = YES. it doesn't even have to be a crazy transportation animal just a caravan or boats. Just a sytem that allows fast travel to certain specific points not just where ever i click.
Whatever i'm bias, i will always hold morrowind up as a shining example of a western RPG and great game. Oblivion for all it's upgrades and new features always felt hollow and just not as good.
If I did have commandments, one of them would be 'thou shalt read things properly on the internet before making nonsensical responses'.Calibretto said:
I said 'robbing the player of their control', not 'making the game a challenge'. Taking control away from the player is, in my opinion, very annoying in a first person game as you can't fight back for those frames.
Fighting in Oblivion was not difficult or challenging, it was just irritating.
Feel free to read that last sentence a second time now, replacing the words 'Fighting in Oblivion' with 'your comment'.
