7 year old girl shot dead while selling some lemonade

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Biodeamon said:
As Cave Jhonson said:
"I don't want your damn lemons! the hell am i supposed to do with these!?"
That's terrible. How could you write something like that, on a thread like this?
 

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Well that is... depressing.

Even someone like me, who's used to daily killings, this is sad. Probably because there's a back story to the victim. Disney Land people! D':

Every kids dream. ;~;
 

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Poor girl. I always hate seeing stories about kids dying. They have their whole life ahead of them and it all rots away in an instant.

She was even getting ready to go to Disney Land. :(
 

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That's so sad. A stray bullet makes it less morbid but only just a little. Killings aren't new, but this was depressing. It's sad that innocent people die because of the stupidity of others.
 

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I've driven through that part of Chicago and it looked bad but holy shit this is shocking. Regardless of whether this was a stray bullet or not fuck the guy who shot it. He shouldn't have been shooting at anyone in the first place. I really don't understand what the parents were thinking however moving with their child here. That's absolutely shockingly poor judgement on their parts. Some things people do just boggles the mind and this is up there.
 

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Biodeamon said:
As Cave Jhonson said:
"I don't want your damn lemons! the hell am i supposed to do with these!?"

Goddamnit, I know I shouldn't laugh, but by god I did. You son of a ***** XD
 

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You guys want to know the worst part?
Her first name was Heaven Heaven had asked to move out of the neighborhood where the family had lived for six months because of the violence there.Seriously those parents are fucking idiots for bringing their daughter to a place like that. Hope the lower rent was worth it, cause now you've got plenty left over TO PAY FOR HER FUNERAL!
Daystar Clarion said:
Gun Control Thread Imminency Senses...

Tingling!

It sucks, but this isn't news, not really, this shit happens everyday.

My sympathies are with the girl's family, regardless.
We don't need gun control
WE NEED BULLET CONTROL!
Biodeamon said:
As Cave Jhonson said:
"I don't want your damn lemons! the hell am i supposed to do with these!?"
To think her life might have been spared if only those damn Eastcoast limousine liberal Intellectual elitists had the balls to fund the lemon grenade initiative.
Eri said:
First off, this isn't new. 2ndly, she was out at 10 a clock at night in a known bad neighborhood. Her parents are halfway to blame.
Source please?
You clearly don't understand poverty.
You don't live in a crime filled poverty stricken area so you can save some extra money on rent you do it because you HAVE to. Do you think the hoods throughout the world would be so populated if they weren't the only affordable place for the people there? (Who still most likely can't afford it but get by with the minimum they have)
 

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Now that is what I would call depressing news. That really puts me into a sad mood as that is just horrible. =(
 

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Biodeamon said:
As Cave Johnson said:
"I don't want your damn lemons! the hell am i supposed to do with these!?"
Ooo, Too soon, Too soon.
Um, I guess we can pretty much summarise this with: "Murica" really. Noticing the pattern of gun related crimes coming from Murica. May as well give guns to a group of toddlers, as seemingly they're the ones who are going to be victims of stray fire anyway.
 

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Res Plus said:
Considerably less people get in sensible countries where guns aren't freely legal. I know I am probably just a retarded, brainwashed Communist Limey Euro-hippy but I will never understand why anyone would need to buy a gun.
To protect yourself from other people with guns/pointy or blunt objects who intend to maim, kill, or otherwise harm you.

This is certainly a sad story and I'm somehow certain the gang members who had that shootout aren't too terribly proud of themselves either. It's not an argument for gun control though, as legally acquired weaponry isn't the issue...these are folks having a gun battle in the streets. I'm sure they're not too bothered by trivial things like "gun licenses" or laws pertaining to firearms. :D
 

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Sympathy for the girl and her bereaved family, none at all for the USA. They are happy and adamant to continue allowing guns to be privately owned, this is the inevitable result. Americans have no right to bemoan both the tragic loss of a child's life and their personal, inalienable right to own guns.

One is the consequence of the other so you make your bed and lie in it.
What does the US have to do with this thread? Stupid generalizations on the internet piss me off more than an exploitative shock story about a little girl caught up in a gunfight in the slums.

Its been said like three times already, but I'll say it again because its true. Outlawing weapons here wouldn't make stuff like this cease to happen. It would only drive the market for said weapons underground. An expanded black market for firearms would only INCREASE violent crime.

We can either agree that there are some cultural differences between this country and yours, or you can be ignorant and intolerant and continue to spew bilious generalizations about a place that you've probably never even been to.
 

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I'd rather work so that no one had any guns, pointy or blunt objects rather than try to arm everyone.

As to your other point, I think it's pretty clear that getting hold of weapons legally or illegally is far easier in a country where weapons can be legally imported and freely sold.

Here, there are plenty of stabbings on a Friday and Saturday night but shootings are very, very rare because all guns are so strictly tracked and controlled, so it is hard for legally imported models to fall into the wrong hands. There is also no culture of gun ownership as such, so people are much less likely to feel normalised around weapons of this nature and less ready to allow an illict sale.

Even when there are shootings its often with "replicas" that have had firing pins machined illegally. Ammunition is also much more heavily controlled and lack of that limits the damage that can be done.

It is interesting how being brought up in different cultures affects one's view point, you'd struggle to find many people in the UK on either side of the political spectrum arguing for less gun control.
Hey now, sir. I too would prefer to live in a world where weaponry wasn't created, maintained, and employed specifically to harm other members of our species, but that's just not how the world works.

I'm not arguing for one side of the other in this debate either, I'm merely pointing out facts based on the current state of US gun control as it relates to crimes.

Now, I'm not very familiar with the criminal world over in the UK, but I was under the impression that organized criminal elements, regardless of their location in the world, are able to acquire weaponry if they have the necessary capital. Perhaps it isn't as prevalent over there... I'd love statistics on it.

The US is probably miles ahead of anyone else in terms of gun-related deaths though.
 
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ManThatYouFear said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Gun Control Thread Imminency Senses...

Tingling!

It sucks, but this isn't news, not really, this shit happens everyday.

My sympathies are with the girl's family, regardless.
its not news? it happen every day?

people like you that fuck these countrys up, you stay in your moms basement and be ignorant to the world around you.
Yes, I'm sure it's people like me and not, say, the the criminals with the guns.

I don't understand why you felt the need to insult me, but whatever.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Matthew Kjonaas said:
Why are people so violent to strangers? There is no reason to kill anyone that young... unless you go back in time to kill Hitler.
I don't think she was actively killed.

She was just collateral damage, if that's what you want to call it.
You're right. They were aiming for the girl's dad. He snitched on his gang members to get out of a 20 year sentence. Still sucks massive balls though . Pardon my french.
 
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Selvec said:
Made me almost spit out my fizzy.

Thats pretty upsetting. Honestly feel like we as a species are getting worse and worse every month. No wonder turning into a violent mindless zombie seems preferable to some people.

Mind this incident isn't what sparks that opinion, but the culmination of more and more disturbing acts.


Daystar Clarion said:
ManThatYouFear said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Gun Control Thread Imminency Senses...

Tingling!

It sucks, but this isn't news, not really, this shit happens everyday.

My sympathies are with the girl's family, regardless.
its not news? it happen every day?

people like you that fuck these countrys up, you stay in your moms basement and be ignorant to the world around you.
Yes, I'm sure it's people like me and not, say, the the criminals with the guns.

I don't understand why you felt the need to insult me, but whatever.
Because it makes him seem "worldly".

People who are worldly and actually feel insulted by others ignoring such causes, are not spending their time making snarky replies to threads on a gaming website.
It's not really that I'm ignoring it, but it just doesn't surprise me.

It's too far out of my Monkeysphere [http://www.cracked.com/article_14990_what-monkeysphere.html] for me to genuinely care.

Like I said, my sympathies are with the kid's family, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.
 
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Lumber Barber said:
It has nothing to do with guns. Okay, maybe a little
Nothing? Maybe a little? She died because she was struck by a bullet. Bullets are fired by guns. Ergo she was killed by a gun. This is really quite simple logic.
Lumber Barber said:
but do you think crime will stop if guns aren't allowed to be legally owned?
Stop? No. Be significantly reduced? A resounding yes.
DRes82 said:
What does the US have to do with this thread?
The girl was in Chicago. Chicago is in the US. Ergo the girl was in the US.
DRes82 said:
Stupid generalizations on the internet piss me off more than an exploitative shock story about a little girl caught up in a gunfight in the slums.
I bet it must piss you off even more when the generalisation is accurate and true then.
DRes82 said:
Outlawing weapons here wouldn't make stuff like this cease to happen.
It would reduce it by many magnitudes.
DRes82 said:
It would only drive the market for said weapons underground. An expanded black market for firearms would only INCREASE violent crime.
No it wouldn't. Law abiding citizens don't buy weapons on black markets when doing so is illegal. Criminals will, and will continue committing crimes. But less guns = less bullets killing 7 year old children, committing murder and armed robbery. That's quite simple maths.
DRes82 said:
We can either agree that there are some cultural differences between this country and yours,
No shit?
DRes82 said:
or you can be ignorant and intolerant and continue to spew bilious generalizations about a place that you've probably never even been to.
Been there many times, and have probably seen more of the US than you have. Doesn't make your 300 year old Second Amendment any more sensible. Every single school, university and college shooting is on the heads of your government for continuing to allow everyone to buy firearms. This girl is dead for the same reason. Enjoy your legal guns. But don't bemoan the loss of this child's life when you support the law that allowed her to be killed.

Ignorant implies I don't understand the culture or its laws. I'm actually fully informed of both and simply see how ancient and stupid they are. You guys are still living in the Wild West.
 

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This is sad. Specially the fact it was a stray bullet... that doesnt really do anything to alive the fact that there was a shooting that occured, possibly between streetgangs. The only thing that could make this better was if one or more of those gangbangers died also. Than there would be atleast one less gangbanger to be around to start another shooting which another innocent could be killed in stray fire.