A petition to black out Steam for an hour

[Scars Unseen]

Seriously, all these recent threads with controversy over feminism and social justice in games makes me see that most gamers are just as much reactionary crazies as the people they complain about.

Nah, it's the same vocal minority as always on all sides. Most gamers don't visit message boards with any regularity, don't know who Anita Sarkeesian is, and wouldn't give two fucks if someone told them. This isn't important, and shouldn't be treated as important, but it's occasionally amusing to dip in and watch people flip their lids over nothing.

 

[SweetShark]

Again, I ask:
It is SO important if Steam is offline for only 1 hour?

I don't really play games much anymore ( back in College, not to mention I gave my Gaming PC away to my brother.) So it wouldn't affect me much.

But think of this. There are people with Job's that have shifts that are many hours long. There are people with Kids, who at times require constant care. There are people with wives, people with husbands, people with grandparents that require care, people with yard work to be done, people with annoying bosses calling you to work other peoples shifts, etc. There are people with a combination of these things.

Not enough time for themselves, your thinking right? Well, something happens? Someone decided to cover your shift? Your kids are out somewhere? Now it's time to play games and get the Me time you were neglecting.

Only to find that STeam is offline because of some SJW bullshit.

There are people who don't have much time for games. I'm sure if I was in their position, I would be so pissed, and prob ably be put off from helping Anita and their cause forever.


That's how I look at it.

Oh my, you remind me somehow TotalBiscuit a lot. He said something similar.
I understand this feeling as well. Work a lot, many games, little time.
But.........I have Gog, Desura, Physical copies of games,Console games,Book,Comics,Movies,Music.....you get the idea.
Can they just pick something else for 1 hour?

Why should they? We and they have paid money for this service, what right do they have to ask us to not be able to use the service we have paid for because of their beliefs which most of us do not hold?

If anything, the backlash from this would probably dwarf the actual problem at had (if it where real and not already shown to have been faked), and to be honest I'd hold absolutely nothing against the people doing it.

Umm...sorry, I wasn't clear at first:
I don't care why they want to do this. I only curious why 1 hour offline of Steam is so important for the users.
ONLY for the users. I don't care for the advertisement reasons of Valve to keep the Steam active all the time.

 

[Zontar]

Again, I ask:
It is SO important if Steam is offline for only 1 hour?

I don't really play games much anymore ( back in College, not to mention I gave my Gaming PC away to my brother.) So it wouldn't affect me much.

But think of this. There are people with Job's that have shifts that are many hours long. There are people with Kids, who at times require constant care. There are people with wives, people with husbands, people with grandparents that require care, people with yard work to be done, people with annoying bosses calling you to work other peoples shifts, etc. There are people with a combination of these things.

Not enough time for themselves, your thinking right? Well, something happens? Someone decided to cover your shift? Your kids are out somewhere? Now it's time to play games and get the Me time you were neglecting.

Only to find that STeam is offline because of some SJW bullshit.

There are people who don't have much time for games. I'm sure if I was in their position, I would be so pissed, and prob ably be put off from helping Anita and their cause forever.


That's how I look at it.

Oh my, you remind me somehow TotalBiscuit a lot. He said something similar.
I understand this feeling as well. Work a lot, many games, little time.
But.........I have Gog, Desura, Physical copies of games,Console games,Book,Comics,Movies,Music.....you get the idea.
Can they just pick something else for 1 hour?

Why should they? We and they have paid money for this service, what right do they have to ask us to not be able to use the service we have paid for because of their beliefs which most of us do not hold?

If anything, the backlash from this would probably dwarf the actual problem at had (if it where real and not already shown to have been faked), and to be honest I'd hold absolutely nothing against the people doing it.

Umm...sorry, I wasn't clear at first:
I don't care why they want to do this. I only curious why 1 hour offline of Steam is so important for the users.
ONLY for the users. I don't care for the advertisement reasons of Valve to keep the Steam active all the time.

My point still stands: we paid for what we have from the service, why should we be denied access to it because of something most of us don't agree with?

 

[SweetShark]

Again, I ask:
It is SO important if Steam is offline for only 1 hour?

I don't really play games much anymore ( back in College, not to mention I gave my Gaming PC away to my brother.) So it wouldn't affect me much.

But think of this. There are people with Job's that have shifts that are many hours long. There are people with Kids, who at times require constant care. There are people with wives, people with husbands, people with grandparents that require care, people with yard work to be done, people with annoying bosses calling you to work other peoples shifts, etc. There are people with a combination of these things.

Not enough time for themselves, your thinking right? Well, something happens? Someone decided to cover your shift? Your kids are out somewhere? Now it's time to play games and get the Me time you were neglecting.

Only to find that STeam is offline because of some SJW bullshit.

There are people who don't have much time for games. I'm sure if I was in their position, I would be so pissed, and prob ably be put off from helping Anita and their cause forever.


That's how I look at it.

Oh my, you remind me somehow TotalBiscuit a lot. He said something similar.
I understand this feeling as well. Work a lot, many games, little time.
But.........I have Gog, Desura, Physical copies of games,Console games,Book,Comics,Movies,Music.....you get the idea.
Can they just pick something else for 1 hour?

Why should they? We and they have paid money for this service, what right do they have to ask us to not be able to use the service we have paid for because of their beliefs which most of us do not hold?

If anything, the backlash from this would probably dwarf the actual problem at had (if it where real and not already shown to have been faked), and to be honest I'd hold absolutely nothing against the people doing it.

Umm...sorry, I wasn't clear at first:
I don't care why they want to do this. I only curious why 1 hour offline of Steam is so important for the users.
ONLY for the users. I don't care for the advertisement reasons of Valve to keep the Steam active all the time.

My point still stands: we paid for what we have from the service, why should we be denied access to it because of something most of us don't agree with?

But again, lets say for example something terrible happen at Steam and it must be offline for 1 hour. Can't the users handle this?
We must immediately go badsh*t crazy about it?

 

[Zontar]

Again, I ask:
It is SO important if Steam is offline for only 1 hour?

I don't really play games much anymore ( back in College, not to mention I gave my Gaming PC away to my brother.) So it wouldn't affect me much.

But think of this. There are people with Job's that have shifts that are many hours long. There are people with Kids, who at times require constant care. There are people with wives, people with husbands, people with grandparents that require care, people with yard work to be done, people with annoying bosses calling you to work other peoples shifts, etc. There are people with a combination of these things.

Not enough time for themselves, your thinking right? Well, something happens? Someone decided to cover your shift? Your kids are out somewhere? Now it's time to play games and get the Me time you were neglecting.

Only to find that STeam is offline because of some SJW bullshit.

There are people who don't have much time for games. I'm sure if I was in their position, I would be so pissed, and prob ably be put off from helping Anita and their cause forever.


That's how I look at it.

Oh my, you remind me somehow TotalBiscuit a lot. He said something similar.
I understand this feeling as well. Work a lot, many games, little time.
But.........I have Gog, Desura, Physical copies of games,Console games,Book,Comics,Movies,Music.....you get the idea.
Can they just pick something else for 1 hour?

Why should they? We and they have paid money for this service, what right do they have to ask us to not be able to use the service we have paid for because of their beliefs which most of us do not hold?

If anything, the backlash from this would probably dwarf the actual problem at had (if it where real and not already shown to have been faked), and to be honest I'd hold absolutely nothing against the people doing it.

Umm...sorry, I wasn't clear at first:
I don't care why they want to do this. I only curious why 1 hour offline of Steam is so important for the users.
ONLY for the users. I don't care for the advertisement reasons of Valve to keep the Steam active all the time.

My point still stands: we paid for what we have from the service, why should we be denied access to it because of something most of us don't agree with?

But again, lets say for example something terrible happen at Steam and it must be offline for 1 hour. Can't the users handle this?
We must immediately go badsh*t crazy about it?

That's different, that's a technical problem which makes it inaccessible. This issue, on the other hand, is about the fact that this group wants it to be taken down intentionally when there is no reason to.

 

[SUPA FRANKY]

Again, I ask:
It is SO important if Steam is offline for only 1 hour?

I don't really play games much anymore ( back in College, not to mention I gave my Gaming PC away to my brother.) So it wouldn't affect me much.

But think of this. There are people with Job's that have shifts that are many hours long. There are people with Kids, who at times require constant care. There are people with wives, people with husbands, people with grandparents that require care, people with yard work to be done, people with annoying bosses calling you to work other peoples shifts, etc. There are people with a combination of these things.

Not enough time for themselves, your thinking right? Well, something happens? Someone decided to cover your shift? Your kids are out somewhere? Now it's time to play games and get the Me time you were neglecting.

Only to find that STeam is offline because of some SJW bullshit.

There are people who don't have much time for games. I'm sure if I was in their position, I would be so pissed, and prob ably be put off from helping Anita and their cause forever.


That's how I look at it.

Oh my, you remind me somehow TotalBiscuit a lot. He said something similar.
I understand this feeling as well. Work a lot, many games, little time.
But.........I have Gog, Desura, Physical copies of games,Console games,Book,Comics,Movies,Music.....you get the idea.
Can they just pick something else for 1 hour?

They could, but why should they have to? What if they don't like tv shows or books? What if they wanted the time to play?

 

[LordVylen]

Maybe I'm missing something, or maybe somebody else has pointed this out, but wouldn't you still be able to play your games, if Steam did shutdown, in offline mode? My internet connection sometimes cuts out on me, and I can still play my Steam games, just not the ones that require a constant connection.

 

[prpshrt]

I wonder if they genuinely think that would do anything to help the threats... Just kinda make it worse IMO. Is this sarkeesian lady even a gamer? If not, she should just quit the feminism in gaming bull crap for her own sake :/

 

[Riotguards]

can we have a blackout for the abuse men receive as well?

i mean in dynasty warriors men are objectified by other men and women by becoming senseless targets for personal ego and statistical pleasure (killing 2000 is amusing)

we must put a stop to male abuse!

 

[SweetShark]

Again, I ask:
It is SO important if Steam is offline for only 1 hour?

I don't really play games much anymore ( back in College, not to mention I gave my Gaming PC away to my brother.) So it wouldn't affect me much.

But think of this. There are people with Job's that have shifts that are many hours long. There are people with Kids, who at times require constant care. There are people with wives, people with husbands, people with grandparents that require care, people with yard work to be done, people with annoying bosses calling you to work other peoples shifts, etc. There are people with a combination of these things.

Not enough time for themselves, your thinking right? Well, something happens? Someone decided to cover your shift? Your kids are out somewhere? Now it's time to play games and get the Me time you were neglecting.

Only to find that STeam is offline because of some SJW bullshit.

There are people who don't have much time for games. I'm sure if I was in their position, I would be so pissed, and prob ably be put off from helping Anita and their cause forever.


That's how I look at it.

Oh my, you remind me somehow TotalBiscuit a lot. He said something similar.
I understand this feeling as well. Work a lot, many games, little time.
But.........I have Gog, Desura, Physical copies of games,Console games,Book,Comics,Movies,Music.....you get the idea.
Can they just pick something else for 1 hour?

They could, but why should they have to? What if they don't like tv shows or books? What if they wanted the time to play?

Ok, ok, I get it. Many people can't live without Steam. I accept my defeat.
Now I will go read Mogworld. Bye.

 

[SUPA FRANKY]

Again, I ask:
It is SO important if Steam is offline for only 1 hour?

I don't really play games much anymore ( back in College, not to mention I gave my Gaming PC away to my brother.) So it wouldn't affect me much.

But think of this. There are people with Job's that have shifts that are many hours long. There are people with Kids, who at times require constant care. There are people with wives, people with husbands, people with grandparents that require care, people with yard work to be done, people with annoying bosses calling you to work other peoples shifts, etc. There are people with a combination of these things.

Not enough time for themselves, your thinking right? Well, something happens? Someone decided to cover your shift? Your kids are out somewhere? Now it's time to play games and get the Me time you were neglecting.

Only to find that STeam is offline because of some SJW bullshit.

There are people who don't have much time for games. I'm sure if I was in their position, I would be so pissed, and prob ably be put off from helping Anita and their cause forever.


That's how I look at it.

Oh my, you remind me somehow TotalBiscuit a lot. He said something similar.
I understand this feeling as well. Work a lot, many games, little time.
But.........I have Gog, Desura, Physical copies of games,Console games,Book,Comics,Movies,Music.....you get the idea.
Can they just pick something else for 1 hour?

They could, but why should they have to? What if they don't like tv shows or books? What if they wanted the time to play?

Ok, ok, I get it. Many people can't live without Steam. I accept my defeat.
Now I will go read Mogworld. Bye.

They could live without Steam, but why should they be inconvenienced for something they don't care about? That's how to get people against you lol.

 

[Kathinka]

fucking over people that most likely don't care about their delusional SJW-nonsense to further the cause? yes, brilliant, i can see no way how that could possibly go wrong!
besides, valve would never do it, no matter how big the petition gets. they are obliged to provide their service to the best of their ability, and they are not going to screw over their paying customers because some SJWs yell loud enough for it.

 

[Doom972]

She keeps throwing the bait and people keep biting. Valve won't black out Steam for her, no matter how much signatures she gets. She's just grumpy because she's hungry for more attention.

 

[MeatMachine]

Anita gets a lot of hate from the online community.
We want this to stop.
Here's a great idea to draw sympathy:
Pull the plug on Steam and deny everyone access to their paid content.
People will realize that women are suffering online, and will totally care.
When we forcibly confiscate all their games for an hour.
Because this can only be a good idea.
And will only enlighten people to our plight.

 

[NemotheElvenPanda]

So remember when feminists like Anita said that they're not trying to take video games away?

I'm not having this. At all.

It's not only stupid for logistical reasons, it's just going to make actual, genuine, and legitimate attempts on making video games more open for women and other groups more difficult. If they really want to do something that benefits people, they could just make games on their own and upload them for Steam like what most indie devs do all the time.

 

[oooooooooooooooooooooooooo]

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Internet was down for a few days, so I only got this now. I don't really think I can respond with anything I haven't already said, and to be honest I think we're arguing approaches more than ideas at this point, so I don't really feel the need to take it further than this. I will address one small thing though

Yeh which is why I doubt telling people it's really really naughty will stop it.

I think you've misunderstood something here, presumably the 'corrective' part of corrective rape. The word 'corrective' refers to the fact that the rapists in these instances will rape a homosexual woman in belief that by doing this they can 'correct' her into heterosexuality. It's got nothing to do with telling people that their raping is wrong.

 

[Genocidicles]

No.

No one is responsible for your actions other than YOU.

You can not control what other people do. You can only control what you do.

So if someone threatened her life or safety, it is NOT her fault, no matter how much you disagree with what she said.

Oh ok then, so let's say I go and find the biggest guy in town, and I call him a **** right to his face. If he were to then punch me in the face, would it have been my fault?

 

[Jack_in_the_green]

I think we should propose to black out Twiter for a year... THAT would actually help the conversation about games, cause you could do it in a place where A CONVERSATION can actually happen...

 

[PinkiePyro]

You have got to kidding really?!

First off this is Anita we are talking about who is known for stirring up issues for attention, not some normal youtube gamer... So chances are it could very well be faked

Second how exactly is this fair its not like valve themselves was harassing her why should they lose potential profit over this whole thing, why punish everyone for what appears to be the actions of one individual..
its just wrong steam and its community had nothing to do with this if anything its freaking twitter that should shut down for the event...

 

[Don Incognito]

No.

No one is responsible for your actions other than YOU.

You can not control what other people do. You can only control what you do.

So if someone threatened her life or safety, it is NOT her fault, no matter how much you disagree with what she said.

Oh ok then, so let's say I go and find the biggest guy in town, and I call him a **** right to his face. If he were to then punch me in the face, would it have been my fault?

No, it would fucking not.

He could have tried talking to you. He could have walked away. He could have insulted you back.

YOU are NOT responsible for anyone else's actions, period.