A question about TF2 on Mac

[mb16]

when ever i enter these flame wars (not this one im being civil today) i find its not so much the mac i dont like, apart from moving the ruddy window icons to the left of the screen. Its the mac users i know at school. there are normally 6 of us who argue about this 3 on both sides and it normally goes...

PC user 1 to PC user 2:- i was playing Portal last night and i didnt remember half of it...
MAC to pc user:- ha i can play Half-life on my mac now, so as it can play games its now better in every way
PC:- we still have more games though
mac:- yes but we have all the good ones and our Macs dont crash or get viruses
PC:- during the 3years of having my pc its crashed onces. anyway how much was your mac?
Mac:- -however-much-
PC:- mine has the exact same spec's and was almost half the price. look we both have a -computer-bit-nerd-talk-
Mac: NERDS!!!!

its just if you start to explain some thing is better in more depth than it looks pretty your argument is invalid as you are a nerd/geek.

(i know all the mac users aren't like this. but these are the one i talk to the most)

Wow. You really must hate mac users then. I know plenty of mac users, none of them like this. But, i disagree with he whole specs thing. My cousin(not the one who started this thread) is dying to get a Macbook because he used one once and he loved it. His said it was better than Vista, but this is his opinion.

i dont hate all mac users some of my friends use a mac (old excuse FTW), one also uses it to code which i always thought was more Pc. Its just the ones who i see the most as they are in my lessons are smug gits who do the above.

 

[Chaos Marine]

Most Mac users are fucking hispter morons that make the majority of 360 gamers appear intellectual.

Generalizing an entire group of people only serves to make you look bad.

I've met a lot of Mac users in my past job as a PC repair engineer and in my current job in retail. Besides one, and I'm emphasising one, none of them had a clue what they were talking about and you could feel their egos and sense of arrogance like the heat of a sun. Till I meet at least enough Mac users that I require both hands to count, I will afford Mac users nothing but scorn.

Your loss, then.

I beg to differ. I don't get along with people who have egos that sport their own gravity wells.

I'm a Mac user without an ego. You can try me too. Go ahead. You probably think you're me. And you probably are. But, when you go and generalize one group of people, that's fucked up. Have you ever stopped to think "It might just be the area I live in." Apparently not. There was this amazing lesson learned in kindergarten and first grade. It goes a little something like this: think before you speak.

Your post implies you seem to think you know more about me than I do. Your post implies that you know more about the area around me than I do. That's pretty egotistical. Particularly since you don't know where I'm from nor the experiences I've had. Again, with the exception of that one, count them, one, Mac user, I've never met a Mac user who I didn't want to punch in the face.

And I think I'm you? How does that work?

I would like to explain to you as well my view on groups of people. If you go meet a group of people who keep doing something a particular way, you assume that since everyone you meet does it that way, that that is how the entirety function. That's not a generalisation, that's utilising experience to make an assessment. And yes, I do believe there are exceptions to the rules too. I'm sure there are plenty of Mac users like that one guy I keep mentioning. The only thing is, the ratio of them to the normal Mac users I've encountered is about 1:1,000+.

 

[MorphingDragon]

Most Mac users are fucking hispter morons that make the majority of 360 gamers appear intellectual.

Generalizing an entire group of people only serves to make you look bad.

I've met a lot of Mac users in my past job as a PC repair engineer and in my current job in retail. Besides one, and I'm emphasising one, none of them had a clue what they were talking about and you could feel their egos and sense of arrogance like the heat of a sun. Till I meet at least enough Mac users that I require both hands to count, I will afford Mac users nothing but scorn.

Wow,

I work in the IT Admin business. And I can tell you, there are Windows users/Admins/MSEs who just ooze ego hate arrogance and scorn. Before that I worked at a (mainly) Apple repair shop. Didn't feel an aura of arrogance, just somebody whos frustrated and wants to get on with their lives, using any means possible to justify their situation and why its not their fault (Everybody does it, if they say otherwise, they're lying). People breakdown differently under stress, that goes for EVERYBODY.

You sir, such as yourself probably belong in the category you label others.

Oh, and Valve dont waste time and resources developing for mac. They made Source that you just go "Compile for Mac OSX" and it spits out a Mac Binary. (Simplified a little bit, but essentially its what they do bar a few changes of non-cross-platform code)

Anecdotes suck, pure suck. They spawn nothing but hate n FUD and you look like a Moron.

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What's with all the hate? I go to freaken lans with my iMac and PS3 with games like Tekken and don't get as much hate as on this thread.

 

[DazZ.]

-snip-

I'm not fully blaming these things. I'm just giving suggestions to what the problem might be to see if anyone knows. And I don't believe it's not a beta until all the kinks are worked out. And according to this thread, that requirement of mine has not been met.

I've told you what the problem is, the servers, you need to choose a different download location. That's the third time I've said it in this thread. You can either say that fix worked or not and I'll think of something else, but ignoring it helps no one.

You can believe it's not a beta all you want, but what you say has nothing to do with what version of Steam is available. Meaning you can't go around saying it's in beta when it isn't.

I have no idea what requirement you are saying hasn't been met, or what the hell that last sentence is about whatsoever.

 

[Sebenko]

kinda like cloning your girlfriend, but adding a breast enlargement in the process.

That's a bad example. I mean, that's awesome. I would totally do that.
[small]If I had a girlfriend[/small]

And Windows 7 rocks. It runs so much faster than XP. Startup is under a minute, including login (not including the time spent in the dual boot menu I have). Games run faster (might be down to being able to use Dx10, which is better with lighting, I hear).

I've had no problems, except for that time I started making my own themes and broke explorer.exe. Turns out there's a reason that it's read only, protected, in a hidden folder etc. Whoops (my fault, not the OS). Luckily, I had a backup, and XP saved the day- start up, move one file, fixed. I love dual booting.

But yeah, back to what I was saying. It's certainty not a cosmetic change, 7 is just so much better than XP and Vista. And MS really had no choice, the word "Vista" had developed an aura of hate, and they needed to rebrand it as new. What better way than take the new service pack and add a bunch of fixes for stuff everyone hated in Vista?

Cock, this was just going to be about how awesome a cloned girlfriend with bigger boobs would be.

 

[Lowbreed]

[personal opinion]
I've used both mac and PC quite a bit (PC a lot more for reasons to follow) and for anyone who has experience with computers I'm gonna have to say that PCs are better (for them). The clear and logical set up structure and yet the potential complexity you can go into with a PC, hell most things on PC are set up potentially less intuitive, but once you have any clue how to handle it it becomes a lot more logical and gives you more possibilities to work with than on a mac.

Secondly just working (say word processing) I just hate the stupid layout of tool bars and such, and overall just don't like the setup, the keybinds and the whole mouse business (again it's probably just because I'm used to PC but honestly PC seems more logical).

Finally I have always been able to fix my PCs by myself (short of one time where my... 'netzteil' (unsure of english word..) the power supply / intake of the pc was broken), however the many times macs of family and friends broke they had to send it in (maybe they're just dumb but tbh I doubt it).

OH AND GAMES. Yes games play a big part obviously, compatibility issues from games to things like emulators or certain codecs or specialized programs, it's a lot easier with Windows (which is pretty much what Mac is supposed to do with every thing?)

And now truly finally I bloody hate the stupid stuck up arrogant Mac ads, but that's unrelated.

[/personal opinion]

PC has better value for the specs you can get.

 

[Klonoakid17]

-snip-

I'm not fully blaming these things. I'm just giving suggestions to what the problem might be to see if anyone knows. And I don't believe it's not a beta until all the kinks are worked out. And according to this thread, that requirement of mine has not been met.

I've told you what the problem is, the servers, you need to choose a different download location. That's the third time I've said it in this thread. You can either say that fix worked or not and I'll think of something else, but ignoring it helps no one.

You can believe it's not a beta all you want, but what you say has nothing to do with what version of Steam is available. Meaning you can't go around saying it's in beta when it isn't.

I have no idea what requirement you are saying hasn't been met, or what the hell that last sentence is about whatsoever.

I did try changing the download location, but it still didn't work. So I don't know what to do. And what I mean is that all of Steams problems haven't been worked out yet.

 

[Klonoakid17]

Most Mac users are fucking hispter morons that make the majority of 360 gamers appear intellectual.

Generalizing an entire group of people only serves to make you look bad.

I've met a lot of Mac users in my past job as a PC repair engineer and in my current job in retail. Besides one, and I'm emphasising one, none of them had a clue what they were talking about and you could feel their egos and sense of arrogance like the heat of a sun. Till I meet at least enough Mac users that I require both hands to count, I will afford Mac users nothing but scorn.

Your loss, then.

I beg to differ. I don't get along with people who have egos that sport their own gravity wells.

I'm a Mac user without an ego. You can try me too. Go ahead. You probably think you're me. And you probably are. But, when you go and generalize one group of people, that's fucked up. Have you ever stopped to think "It might just be the area I live in." Apparently not. There was this amazing lesson learned in kindergarten and first grade. It goes a little something like this: think before you speak.

Your post implies you seem to think you know more about me than I do. Your post implies that you know more about the area around me than I do. That's pretty egotistical. Particularly since you don't know where I'm from nor the experiences I've had. Again, with the exception of that one, count them, one, Mac user, I've never met a Mac user who I didn't want to punch in the face.

And I think I'm you? How does that work?

I would like to explain to you as well my view on groups of people. If you go meet a group of people who keep doing something a particular way, you assume that since everyone you meet does it that way, that that is how the entirety function. That's not a generalisation, that's utilising experience to make an assessment. And yes, I do believe there are exceptions to the rules too. I'm sure there are plenty of Mac users like that one guy I keep mentioning. The only thing is, the ratio of them to the normal Mac users I've encountered is about 1:1,000+.

I wrote think you're better than me, but that fucked for some reason. And I don't know where you are. It's just a possibility. I never said this is the whole truth. But, you can stop and think for a second. I don't know more than you about computers or maybe even everything, but I don't care. Sorry to say, but I don't think the same way you do. It's still a generalization if you don't know everyone that has a Mac. I think that everyone that I meat I base my opinions on them on their own actions, not the actions of others like that person.

 

[Klonoakid17]

when ever i enter these flame wars (not this one im being civil today) i find its not so much the mac i dont like, apart from moving the ruddy window icons to the left of the screen. Its the mac users i know at school. there are normally 6 of us who argue about this 3 on both sides and it normally goes...

PC user 1 to PC user 2:- i was playing Portal last night and i didnt remember half of it...
MAC to pc user:- ha i can play Half-life on my mac now, so as it can play games its now better in every way
PC:- we still have more games though
mac:- yes but we have all the good ones and our Macs dont crash or get viruses
PC:- during the 3years of having my pc its crashed onces. anyway how much was your mac?
Mac:- -however-much-
PC:- mine has the exact same spec's and was almost half the price. look we both have a -computer-bit-nerd-talk-
Mac: NERDS!!!!

its just if you start to explain some thing is better in more depth than it looks pretty your argument is invalid as you are a nerd/geek.

(i know all the mac users aren't like this. but these are the one i talk to the most)

Wow. You really must hate mac users then. I know plenty of mac users, none of them like this. But, i disagree with he whole specs thing. My cousin(not the one who started this thread) is dying to get a Macbook because he used one once and he loved it. His said it was better than Vista, but this is his opinion.

i dont hate all mac users some of my friends use a mac (old excuse FTW), one also uses it to code which i always thought was more Pc. Its just the ones who i see the most as they are in my lessons are smug gits who do the above.

Don't get me wrong there are assholes in the world, but I phrased it wrong when I said that everyone is like that. But, I have met some people like that and worse. But, most of them were PC users trying to hurt me because I had a Mac. And there was a fair share of Mac users where I live that try to say more than they know. It's pretty annoying.

 

[Godhead]

How do MAC users right click?
not a joke seriously, some special mouse?

I believe that Razer has some gaming mouses that were brought over to the Mac. I believe the first one was the Death Adder, so Mac has had maybe 5 buttons for awhile. It's just that nobody bought them.

 

[asam92]

I will refrain my anger being vented about Mac's..... for now.
OT: Like alot of people have said it was prolly cuz of the free weekend, who doesnt like a free weekend?

 

[mew4ever23]

This is a one word fix. That word is "Patience".

TF2's a big game, and the servers were really busy during the free weekend. A lot of the community was downloading the newest patch for HOURS.

 

[Silver Patriot]

Has he tried pausing it and starting it up again? It was doing that to me when portal was free i had to constantly start it again and again

He did that, and he said that when he started it up it said download starting forever. He paused it when it was at 0% when he did so I don't know what's happening. I'll tell him to start an account so maybe he can explain it to us.

I have had this problem on my PC. It's a server issue, to much traffic sometimes. It makes it a pain to download anything sometimes. Try again at midnight.

 

[Why do I care]

How do MAC users right click?
not a joke seriously, some special mouse?

Right click has been there in all mac mice for over 5 years now.
You don't see the second button, but in the mighty mouse it's hidden as a sensor that detects wether you click on the left or right of the casing. How the other new mouse, that trackpadthing, works I don't know.

You can also use a third party mouse. Been using a logitech for over 6 years now.

One finger click for left click

Two for right I believe.

 

[Why do I care]

LOL @ at All the mac fanboys
How will mac users play TF2 with only one mouse button?

There is two. The mighty mouse is sensitive to what side you click on.

 

[secretsantaone]

The reason why many people say Mac Users are hipsters is because owning a mac is more like a fashion statement. The main reason why people buy them is for the apple brand, popularised by the ipod/iphone/ipad.

When you get down to it, PCs are better value for money, more easily fixed/improved and easier to customise. Hence people who like to play games on computers prefer PCs much more than Macs.

In my experience of using Macs, they've often crashed, froze or screwed up just by using them. There's not a problem I've had with my PC that wasn't caused by me in some way.

From that you have to assume that the only people who would buy a Mac would be people who buy it for the brand (hipsters) or buy it because it's laid out simply and they don't care about performance.

 

[DustyDrB]

How will mac users play TF2 with only one mouse button?

Well, I was faced with this problem, and with a lots of planning and ideas I solved the problem of a one button track pad. Buying a mouse. Ingenious isn't it.

You didn't need to buy a new mouse. Just put another finger down on the trackpad and click. Now you may scope in on

Spoiler: this guy

YourlocalPCsnob

and shoot.

The reason why many people say Mac Users are hipsters is because owning a mac is more like a fashion statement. The main reason why people buy them is for the apple brand, popularised by the ipod/iphone/ipad.

When you get down to it, PCs are better value for money, more easily fixed/improved and easier to customise. Hence people who like to play games on computers prefer PCs much more than Macs.

In my experience of using Macs, they've often crashed, froze or screwed up just by using them. There's not a problem I've had with my PC that wasn't caused by me in some way.

From that you have to assume that the only people who would buy a Mac would be people who buy it for the brand (hipsters) or buy it because it's laid out simply and they don't care about performance.

Flat-out lies. I bought mine because it's more durable and better at handling the music recording and editing software I own. It has not crashed on me once, and I don't know a single person who has problems with his Mac crashing. And only hipsters buy Macs? You cannot honestly believe that. There are some legitimate complaints against Macs, mind you. You just managed to ignore them and make up false ones.

 

[Kelethor]

I'd rather they develop for the Linux users. Yes, there are MS hating Linux users but at least those Linux users have an idea about the hardware in their machines or how their OS operates. Most Mac users are fucking hispter morons that make the majority of 360 gamers appear intellectual.

Wow, Your really shooting for the stars on this one. bashing Mac users, AND console gamers. Nice Job, twit.


OT: I hope your problems go away, and I can only assume that it was due to the mass amount of people jumping on the free weekend bandwagon.

 

[Chaos Marine]

I'd rather they develop for the Linux users. Yes, there are MS hating Linux users but at least those Linux users have an idea about the hardware in their machines or how their OS operates. Most Mac users are fucking hispter morons that make the majority of 360 gamers appear intellectual.

Wow, Your really shooting for the stars on this one. bashing Mac users, AND console gamers. Nice Job, twit.


OT: I hope your problems go away, and I can only assume that it was due to the mass amount of people jumping on the free weekend bandwagon.

I've worked in a few repair and electronic shops and my bias stems from personal interactions with users. Simply put, the majority of Mac users I've had to deal with are complete and utter fucking douchebags with egos so vast they should have their own gravity wells.