Activision Asks Itself: Isn't Call of Duty Like Guitar Hero Used to Be?

[L3m0n_L1m3]

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Jesus, calm down. It's called a joke, relax.

 

[Tdc2182]

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Jesus, calm down. It's called a joke, relax.

Wasn't really a joke, more like a humorous statement.

OT: from a Call of Duty fanboy; It's starting to peak, to tell you the truth. They've developed this formula and they are trying to stay safe. They need to innovate. They've got the basics down, now they need to touch them up.

 

[Tdc2182]

Whenever i play Treyarch's Call of Duty, I see great potential in the campaigns. Activision could really do something more meanignful than Cod's MP overhaul and deliver a genuinely emotional, meaningful campaign with Call of Duty. A story where the hyper-masculine roles of most FPS heroes are questioned. Of course they won't, but can you just imagine?

I personally hated Treyarch's campaigns. I won't even bring myself to play it on a harder difficulty. That and the fact that the only really interesting part about the story was pretty much taken straight out of Fight Club.

Infinity Wards campaigns (while admittedly not on the brighter side of stories) were actually fun. They innovated, brought much more to the campaign then any Treyarch game has done. IW's games are like Mel Bay movies, but you actually get to play through the fun parts.

And enough with the "over-masculine" character argument. It's pretty damn flawed. You don't send a pacifist hippy into war.

 

[vxicepickxv]

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Jesus, calm down. It's called a joke, relax.

Wasn't really a joke, more like a humorous statement.

OT: from a Call of Duty fanboy; It's starting to peak, to tell you the truth. They've developed this formula and they are trying to stay safe. They need to innovate. They've got the basics down, now they need to touch them up.

So, they need to completely kill the single player campaign they've been watering down and weakening with every iteration since Modern Warfare?

 

[josemlopes]

I loled, they only figured it now, look at Tony Hawks games while you are still at it.

Activision loves to throw at us sequel after sequel and that is why they eventually fail. They should just calm the fuck down and take 2-3 years to release a new game.

 

[Nooners]

Whenever i play Treyarch's Call of Duty, I see great potential in the campaigns. Activision could really do something more meanignful than Cod's MP overhaul and deliver a genuinely emotional, meaningful campaign with Call of Duty. A story where the hyper-masculine roles of most FPS heroes are questioned. Of course they won't, but can you just imagine?

I personally hated Treyarch's campaigns. I won't even bring myself to play it on a harder difficulty. That and the fact that the only really interesting part about the story was pretty much taken straight out of Fight Club.

Infinity Wards campaigns (while admittedly not on the brighter side of stories) were actually fun. They innovated, brought much more to the campaign then any Treyarch game has done. IW's games are like Mel Bay movies, but you actually get to play through the fun parts.

And enough with the "over-masculine" character argument. It's pretty damn flawed. You don't send a pacifist hippy into war.

I agree. Black Ops campaign really wasn't all that great, and the same with World at War (which was a little better). But The MW campaigns were a lot of fun, and I still think that the Chernobyl missions in MW1 are one of the best FPS levels EVER. The favela was a fun experience in MW2, but I wish it had lasted longer, personally.

What I really want to see again are the Spec Ops. Rather than DLC mp maps, I want to see more mission packs for Spec Ops. There's a lot of potential to be had with that gameplay style, and I think it's a shame that it was forgotten so quickly.

 

[9Darksoul6]

'Selling-Things' 101: Do not sell the same shit over and over again and expect people to keep buying it. It's not that hard to figure it out.

If MW3 will be the exact same game they've been selling since MW1 (fucking half a decade now), the CoD franchise is definitely dead. It's like a bunch of idiots are running Activision right now; dudes from the porn industry, maybe.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

In order to achieve this potential, we need to focus: on making games that constantly raise the quality bar; on staying ahead of the innovation curve; on surrounding the brand with a suite of services and an online community that makes our fans never want to leave.

Now, I put it to all CoD fans: Has the CoD franchise achieved all of that?

Is Black Ops really all that better than MewTwo?

I'm guessing no.

 

[CardinalPiggles]

people, you have to remember that CoD is BIG on xbox and ps3, most of us here are simply PC gamers. it will be a while before they axe it, it brings in too much money for that.

There's no question that COD is better suited to longevity than Guitar Hero (not the least of which because it doesn't require gamers to keep buying plastic instruments)

Keep buying plastic instruments? guitar from GH3 works with GH 5 and drums/mic from GH: WT works with GH5 and other installments that require them...

CoD is worse tbh, "Keep Buying 15$ map packs to play online with people"...which is the whole point of the game, to play online =/

that would be a good point if the instruments never broke.

also you dont have to buy the map packs to play online or even with people who have them.

 

[Adzma]

but will yearly installments result in franchise fatigue?

My money's on no simply because there are enough fanboys out there who still haven't grasped the fact that they're buying the exact same game every year. What's the figure you said? 5.6 million on day one for Black Ops? Yeah not happening any time soon.

Personally though I do hope Activision milk it into the ground (probably 10 years from now), maybe then publishers will stop fearing the idea of originality in FPS games.

 

[AJM]

Today i sold call of duty black ops for portal 2, no regrets here

 

[Siberian Relic]

I'm thinking Activision has watched the gameplay footage from Battlefield 3 and is genuinely terrified.

 

[Stilkon]

I think them pretty similar. All I hear about these days is COD, and I haven't been able to keep track of all the new releases (much like all the Guitar Hero titles in 2009).

 

[koroem]

Honestly I say let them run it into the ground. Sooner or later they will learn from their mistakes and we won't have to read about COD games anymore.

I Can't begin to express how happy I am that every other day I'm no longer reading a headlines like "Artist X and Band Y confirmed for new Guitar Hero 29 DLC."

The only thing good to come out of COD in the past couple years is that guy Kevin on YouTube who goes around annoying all the COD zombies with surprising efficiency.

 

[Tyler Youngblood]

heres an idea to keep call of duty alive

DONT RELEASE A GAME EVERY YEAR TAKE A YEAR OFF SOMETIMES.

they could just support it with map packs and maybe a multiplayer expansion with new unlocks for the year that its off instead of a full game.

just an idea.