Am i the only one who likes DA2?

[Judgement101]

Congrats, I now hate you. (For asking AM I THE ONLY ONE?)
Anyway, NO YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY DAMN ONE!

wow.. not only did you not read the first line where i state that i know im not the only one, you've managed to out-do the other 6 or so people who told me im not the only one by not contributing anything to this thread at all... bravo.

Can people stop saying *You are never the only one!*

That's relevant in many *am i da onli one* threads, but as he clearly stated in the first line of OP, he is aware he is not the only one.

Stop trying to be clever, because you're failing fucking miserably.

haha thank you, i feel like YOU are the only one who noticed that line
as for your other points you're probably right, its not the sequal people where expecting (thats the case for me but i've been pleasantly suprised) but the demo did come out ages ago so if people didnt like it they shouldnt have bought the game

Oh really? I didn't contribute, I awnsered your damn question, how is that not contributing.

 

[DustyDrB]

So the people who are saying it's too short must be skipping a good bit of content (maybe not being aware that side quests will not be available if you don't do them before certain main plot quests). I just finished the Deep Roads section and am right at 20 hours. And MAN, I just fell in love with this game in the Deep Roads. I had my ass kicked down there in parts (playing on Hard) and had to really use all the members of my party to the tip top of their abilities.

 

[Ilikemilkshake]

Oh really? I didn't contribute, I awnsered your damn question, how is that not contributing.

1. you didnt answer any question, you answered a rhotorical thread title without actually reading the post
2. you didnt contribute anything of discusion value
3. you have been rather rude in both your posts

 

[Judgement101]

Oh really? I didn't contribute, I awnsered your damn question, how is that not contributing.

1. you didnt answer any question, you answered a rhotorical thread title without actually reading the post <- Yes, I did
2. you didnt contribute anything of discusion value <- A yes or no thread doesn't need more value
3. you have been rather rude in both your posts<- Because you were rude to me in the post, treat others the way you want to be treated.

Lets just end this now because we don't need a thread to become corrupted again.

 

[Ilikemilkshake]

Oh really? I didn't contribute, I awnsered your damn question, how is that not contributing.

1. you didnt answer any question, you answered a rhotorical thread title without actually reading the post <- Yes, I did
2. you didnt contribute anything of discusion value <- A yes or no thread doesn't need more value
3. you have been rather rude in both your posts<- Because you were rude to me in the post, treat others the way you want to be treated.

Lets just end this now because we don't need a thread to become corrupted again.

You clearly didnt read the post because you answered a rhetorical question.
The thread wasnt yes or know, i was asking for either positive feedback on the game, or some actual reasons for the hate the game has generated.
And how was i rude to you? i responded to your post in which you said you hated me, by saying you must not have read my post because you answered a rhetoric question.

and i will leave it there now because this is getting way off topic

 

[Veldaroth]

I thought the plot was boring. Sure, it's nice not having to save the world AGAIN, but the overwhelming sense of doom and the knowledge that neither side should really win but you'll have to side with someone eventually anyway sort of made me stop caring. There was nothing in the plot that really kept my attention. Also, I only liked two characters. I wanted to like a third but the ending of the game prevented that.

I'm sure that there are people who liked the sense of doom but for me I just didn't care enough. I kept waiting for the plot to get more interesting and suddenly I was in the final battle. The side quests were really the only interesting parts.

 

[Judgement101]

Oh really? I didn't contribute, I awnsered your damn question, how is that not contributing.

1. you didnt answer any question, you answered a rhotorical thread title without actually reading the post <- Yes, I did
2. you didnt contribute anything of discusion value <- A yes or no thread doesn't need more value
3. you have been rather rude in both your posts<- Because you were rude to me in the post, treat others the way you want to be treated.

Lets just end this now because we don't need a thread to become corrupted again.

You clearly didnt read the post because you answered a rhetorical question.
The thread wasnt yes or know, i was asking for either positive feedback on the game, or some actual reasons for the hate the game has generated.
And how was i rude to you? i responded to your post in which you said you hated me, by saying you must not have read my post because you answered a rhetoric question.

and i will leave it there now because this is getting way off topic

Let me correct why I am angry and why everyone is saying No you are not the only one. You see there once was this troll who made about 10 "AM I THE ONLY ONE?!" posts in a day. From then on, even saying "Am I the only one" makes people not read the OP and makes the angry.

 

[Duffeknol]

Just finished the game today with a sarcastic male rogue. Immediately started a new game for a bitchy female mage. I'm having even more fun now than my first playthrough. People complain too much. The best thing they could've done to this game was actually dumbing it down. Next to that the action is actually fun to look at for a change.

And @ all the naggers: ok, fine, you don't like the new animations and fewer spreadsheets, alright, fine. But the story is still there, the characters are still very nicely crafted and the moral dilemmas are as brutal as ever. If that's not enough to make you enjoy a Bioware game, when all the most important things are still intact, I pity you.

 

[Ilikemilkshake]

Let me correct why I am angry and why everyone is saying No you are not the only one. You see there once was this troll who made about 10 "AM I THE ONLY ONE?!" posts in a day. From then on, even saying "Am I the only one" makes people not read the OP and makes the angry.

i thought we were going to end this
you cant punish me for using the same phrase that a troll overused at some point in the past.
and so far you are the only person who didnt read the OP because like 3-4 other people who told me i wasnt the only one also gave some feedback on the game.
anyway i understand the point you're trying to make but you could have been less rude about it.

I kept waiting for the plot to get more interesting and suddenly I was in the final battle. The side quests were really the only interesting parts.

i agree that the side quests where the most interesting part, but thats what i liked about it, for me the actual main story is more of a context for the side quests.. i much prefered it to the 'you are the chosen one who will save the world, and you'll do this by doing quests to gain a team of companions' story in every other bioware game

 

[Ilikemilkshake]

Had enough of these arguments THIS IS WHY PEOPLE HATE DRAGON AGE2.
http://blog.brentknowles.com/2010/08/15/bioware-brent-year-10-fall-2008-summer-2009
The lead designer quit because of the mass effectasation of the dragon age franchise.
What more can be said.

i can understand why he would quit the lead designer job when he's not got his heart behind what he's doing but i still dont really think these changes have made a worse game, i still believe that most people who are saying its "the worst game ever" are just being stubborn

we're probably not going to agree on this but i will say that bioware could have easily made this a different IP and made a more 'hardcore/old school' rpg as the sequal
but for me all of these changes fixed the problems i had with DA:O.. some i didnt even realise existed

 

[DustyDrB]

So the people who are saying it's too short must be skipping a good bit of content (maybe not being aware that side quests will not be available if you don't do them before certain main plot quests). I just finished the Deep Roads section and am right at 20 hours. And MAN, I just fell in love with this game in the Deep Roads. I had my ass kicked down there in parts (playing on Hard) and had to really use all the members of my party to the tip top of their abilities.

Is it longer than DA:O? I hope so, cause that game was too short for being an RPG.
Somebody said in this thread that DA2 is for people who didn't like DA:O. After playing the demo, I agree. I plan on renting DA2 sometime.

Then again, I've just started Hyperdimension Neptunia, so it may be a while.

I may even change my avatar to this (maybe).

Spoiler

Well, I don't know how much I have left. I'm being very thorough, hitting every possible side quest I can. I've heard of people finishing the game in 20 hours and then others in 60. There are certain main story quests that jump the game forward a few years, making unfinished side quests become unavailable. I'm pretty positive that this is how many people are finishing the game so quickly.

I'd say a rental would be a safe bet for you. I've seen you mention your preferences around here and I'm not sure of Dragon Age 2 is different enough for you. Though the fighting is much quicker-paced and more involving. But it's still a BioWare game (which is great for me, and I think not so great for you).

 

[Rayne870]

embedded for you, funny video, the man makes sense

Thanks muchly I'll have to learn this stuff eventually.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

I'm pretty sure everything you listed is why so many people are raging against the game. I'm enjoying it. My one real complaint is that I can't talk to my characters unless they want to talk to me. Every time I go see Merrill, all I get is "By the Dread Wolf! Why is my house always such a mess whenever people are here? It's clean sometimes, I swear." Adorable, but I would like to talk to you, and about you, like I did with Leliana. Oh well.

 

[Ilikemilkshake]

embedded for you, funny video, the man makes sense

Thanks muchly I'll have to learn this stuff eventually.

all you do is take the original link, for example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6lzEhoXads
then remove the 'http://www.' and '.com/watch?v'
so that you're left with youtube=n6lzEhoXads and then add '' to the start and end

Every time I go see Merrill, all I get is "By the Dread Wolf! Why is my house always such a mess whenever people are here? It's clean sometimes, I swear." Adorable, but I would like to talk to you, and about you, like I did with Leliana. Oh well.

I agree that it would be nice to be able to talk more but the actual conversations you do have with your companions are much better than in origins in my opinion, also if you want to know WHEN your companions actually have something to say, check your journal and your companion will be in the list of quests.

EDIT: I think they had something going making the game shorter but more story/action packed but they just didn't execute it properly enough, there wasn't enough incentive to do stuff, not enough change in Kirkwall, some of the epic factor was lost (the scale of some events weren't big or epic enough) and the environments were recycled. DAO just had so much more content.)

while the game is shorter, im 27 hours in and only just on act 3.. and you're right that alot of content is reused (there are only so many places gangs/demons can hide out in kirkwall it seems) i've never actually gotten bored, i loved origins but alot of the time i got bored, and combat felt like a chore.. so im actually glad alot of the sequences have been shortened

 

[AVATAR_RAGE]

Christ sake, why is it every time I refresh these forums there's ANOTHER thread about DAII?
It's not even that important a game.

Did just nothing else come out this last few weeks?

i figured i'd (somewhat) buck the trend and start a thread that was'nt moaning about the game (ironically im sort of moaning about the moaning but whatever)

And we all thank you for it, the constant stream of negativity is really annoying. I love DA2, my complaints about the game are very minor, but I can even see a point to why these features exist. Like the lack of variety in the environment, most of the dungeons seem to just be copied and pasted versions of each other.

The character seem to be built to suite specific roles, this kind of annoys me because it stops me from taking certain characters with me. However it does allow them to feel more like their own character not what I want them to, which is great .

 

[rockyoumonkeys]

I like it, but it's still a disappointment. I'm not very far, but already I've seen the same dungeon copy/pasted a few times. The combat is underwhelming too. I play as a warrior as I always have, and I've got a really good weapon, but I seem to be contributing almost nothing to the attack damage. I think the warrior is gimped in this game.

 

[Ilikemilkshake]

I like it, but it's still a disappointment. I'm not very far, but already I've seen the same dungeon copy/pasted a few times. The combat is underwhelming too. I play as a warrior as I always have, and I've got a really good weapon, but I seem to be contributing almost nothing to the attack damage. I think the warrior is gimped in this game.

i'll agree with you there, i started the game as a male warrior but didnt like it so switched to a female mage... rogues are pretty awesome too
so its a bit of a shame that warriors are so bad this time around, although rogues did get the short end of the straw last time round

 

[rockyoumonkeys]

I like it, but it's still a disappointment. I'm not very far, but already I've seen the same dungeon copy/pasted a few times. The combat is underwhelming too. I play as a warrior as I always have, and I've got a really good weapon, but I seem to be contributing almost nothing to the attack damage. I think the warrior is gimped in this game.

i'll agree with you there, i started the game as a male warrior but didnt like it so switched to a female mage... rogues are pretty awesome too
so its a bit of a shame that warriors are so bad this time around, although rogues did get the short end of the straw last time round

The problem is that the warrior was pretty awesome in that beginning bit before you make your character...so I guess eventually my character will be that powerful again, but it kind of sucks that I'll be kind of bad for most of the game.

But really, I think the other reason I'm gonna switch to rogue is because I kind of hate that dwarf guy, and so since I never use him, I never get to unlock any locked chests, since he's all you get for a while. I like his banter, but he's just not worth keeping around.

Of course, the other main reason I chose warrior was because most of the bonus stuff (weapons, Blood Dragon Armor, etc.) seems to be for warriors. But I think the Ser Isaac armor is for rogues, so that'll still be cool.

 

[Ch@Z]

Dragon Age 2
Pros- The environments are nice. Sure they reuse them but they have much more depth than Origins
The companions are as good as Origins. (Merrill is just awesome)
Hawke is funny.
The combat has....some improvements. (you can now upgrade your talents and spells)

Cons- No central conflict.
The combat is not as fun as Origins. Too many enemies in each fight and they all fall too quickly. Should have had less enemies but make them stronger like in Origins.

So overall yeah I liked DA2. It's no Origins but it dose make me mad when people give DA2 like 1 out of 10 in Metacritic or Gamespot.

 

[Ilikemilkshake]

I like it, but it's still a disappointment. I'm not very far, but already I've seen the same dungeon copy/pasted a few times. The combat is underwhelming too. I play as a warrior as I always have, and I've got a really good weapon, but I seem to be contributing almost nothing to the attack damage. I think the warrior is gimped in this game.

i'll agree with you there, i started the game as a male warrior but didnt like it so switched to a female mage... rogues are pretty awesome too
so its a bit of a shame that warriors are so bad this time around, although rogues did get the short end of the straw last time round

The problem is that the warrior was pretty awesome in that beginning bit before you make your character...so I guess eventually my character will be that powerful again, but it kind of sucks that I'll be kind of bad for most of the game.

But really, I think the other reason I'm gonna switch to rogue is because I kind of hate that dwarf guy, and so since I never use him, I never get to unlock any locked chests, since he's all you get for a while. I like his banter, but he's just not worth keeping around.

Of course, the other main reason I chose warrior was because most of the bonus stuff (weapons, Blood Dragon Armor, etc.) seems to be for warriors. But I think the Ser Isaac armor is for rogues, so that'll still be cool.

how can you not like varric? he's my favourite after merrill, he can do a buttload of damage and is good for the chests aswell. ah well personal preferance i guess...
my party normally consists of myself, varric, merrill and isabela, so 2 rogues and 2 mages... i dont really like fenris and i find the damage from the other characters more useful than avelines tanking