An 8-year old wants Gears of War 2
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Its pure insanity that games like gears of War 2 in Australia is taken down a notch because parents are idiots. That the real name for drugs on fallout 3 are taken out because the parents dont tell there kids to shut up. I mean I want to get the full content, parents are idoits and where the ones who pay, the real gamers who sit down after a long day and play gears online with mates or play fallout or any game for that matter. And parents complain about how we play games and there bad and stuff then they make us look like heartless monster, then get there kids to play a game where u can rip a guy in half with a chain saw. Dont You All Agree Fellow Gamers!?, this is messed up beyond reprimand !
At the local Gamestop, I was spoken to by one of those hyper-talkative seven-year-olds or so, asking if I had played GTA: Vice City stories, because HE had, and it was so cool! (Bear in mind, I live in Sweden and there is NO WAY that kid could understand a word of the English dialogue). Only he could only play it at his mom's place, because when he stayed with dad he wouldn't let him.
That short sentence spoke volumes about the world and the human condition.
That short sentence spoke volumes about the world and the human condition.
I'm just going to point out that the drugs were called Jet, and Mentats, and Buffout LONG before bethesda got their hands on the game.Cyketor said:
In fact, my response to the news that they were removing real world drug names from Fallout 3 was
WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY DOING CALLING THE DRUGS MORPHEINE ANYWAY?!
I've never played a 18+ because my stupid-ass country (yes...Australia) won't freakin' let me!
Grrr...
Parents should be getting more information and advice about how/whether or not to censor their children to types of media. It doesn't hurt to have more access to more information. Parent can then properly consider whether it is appropriate for their children or not. After all, parents know their children better than the government does.
If parents and the 40+ people on average weren't so devoid of knowledge of current video games then these kinds of problems wouldn't happen. I'm all for forcing them to play some.
Grrr...
Parents should be getting more information and advice about how/whether or not to censor their children to types of media. It doesn't hurt to have more access to more information. Parent can then properly consider whether it is appropriate for their children or not. After all, parents know their children better than the government does.
If parents and the 40+ people on average weren't so devoid of knowledge of current video games then these kinds of problems wouldn't happen. I'm all for forcing them to play some.
there are lots of M rated games that make their way over to Australia.latenightapplepie said:
the funny thing is, any M rated game that DOES make the swim is instantly classified as 13+ (I think that's the age, correct politely if I'm wrong)
So for instance, this 8 year old in this example will have to wait 9 years to play Gears of War according out our rating system, but only 5 years in australia
Oh yeah, the classification 'M' in Aust means 13+, but we also have 'MA 15+' (eg Halos 1,2 and 3, Assassin's Creed, GTA 4). So slightly different from your system but ultimately worse because instead of creating a 18+ classification for video games (which we have for films oddly enough) games are either toned down into the 'MA 15+' category (Fallout 3) or banned altogether (latest Silent Hill).Altorin said:
Stupid, stupid government policy and one of the many reasons why I'm not proud to be an Australian.
A few people seem to be mistaking the meaning of correlation for that of causation . A correlation is a relation ship between X and Y. For example there's a correlation between people dying while in there own beds, however that does not mean that being in their bed is what caused those people to die. Causation is more along the lines for if you do X, Y will happen. For example if someone's heart permanently stops, they will die.
Yes there is a correlation between video games and violence. Not many people will disagree with you on the phrase, "Most people who play violent video games don't kill people, but some do." The problem is the addition of "Therefore we should heavily restrict or ban violent video games." One should never take such heavy action just because of a correlation. I'm willing to bet that if I spin it right, I could do a study that shows that some people who chew gum kill people, and that there chewing gum is what caused them to snap. If I were to then shove that study at you and say "Most people who chew gum don't kill people, but some do. Therefore we need to ban gum." how do you think you would react to me? Heck I could takeit to the really absurd and come up with "Most people who breath oxygen don't kill people, but some do. Therefore we need to burn off the atmosphere"
Yes there is a correlation between video games and violence. Not many people will disagree with you on the phrase, "Most people who play violent video games don't kill people, but some do." The problem is the addition of "Therefore we should heavily restrict or ban violent video games." One should never take such heavy action just because of a correlation. I'm willing to bet that if I spin it right, I could do a study that shows that some people who chew gum kill people, and that there chewing gum is what caused them to snap. If I were to then shove that study at you and say "Most people who chew gum don't kill people, but some do. Therefore we need to ban gum." how do you think you would react to me? Heck I could takeit to the really absurd and come up with "Most people who breath oxygen don't kill people, but some do. Therefore we need to burn off the atmosphere"
It's all just a symptom of parents losing the right to spank their children all day, instead we get naughty stolls, bribes and pointless time outs. Bring back the bloody bloody cane!
I'm not saying that games should be banned or heavily restricted, otherwise we'd end up with "you do not talk about game club". The issue lies with parents letting young children play violent games. Just because one or two people go "oh, I turned out fine", doesn't mean that we should just let all children play violent games unquestioned; what happens to one person isn't a perfect template for everyone else.halfeclipse said:
I'd like to point out that smacking had made me a more violent child, and it's still taking me some time to reshape my temper.hypothetical fact said:
I used to work at a KB Toys awhile back, had this customer come in, it was a Hispanic lady and here son and her son had to translate most of what she said to me. The kid couldn't have been more then 7 and his mom wanted to get him GTA: Liberty City Stories for the PSP. I seemed suspicious and knowing that trying to tell her anything would just be altered by her son I told the kid about some deal with our PSP accessories. Luckily the back of the box had a Spanish description of the game and I let her read it. She seemed to get very angry and yeld at her son and then propmtly drag him out of the store.
I feel what I did was the responsible thing but I can't help feeling a little bad about it.
I feel what I did was the responsible thing but I can't help feeling a little bad about it.