An hypothetical question for recent Fallout fans

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GameMaNiAC

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NUKE IT FROM ORBIT. IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO BE SURE.

No, seriously, this is the worst game in the entire franchise.

I'm a fan since the original Fallout, but I've never heard of the term POS. I'm assuming it's a 'correct' title for the game. Mind telling me what it stands for?

You can PM me to save the eyes of the innocent souls who happen to be reading it.
 

Nulmas

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Sentient6 said:
I assume the point of this thread is a (rather clever) jab at the fact that F3 turned the franchise upside down and pissed off a lot of the original game's fans, and a "how would YOU like it" kind of question towards F3/NV fans....
No, not at all. I hadn't even thought it might look like that. Part of the point was that I'd really like to know how people would react to this forgotten turd nowadays.

Anyway, I see that point, but I don't really buy it. If you ARE going to resurrect a popular franchise that's been largely dead for some time, then why not take it into a different direction that might make it stand out and be unique? It sure as hell beats making a glorified tribute to the original, trying to please the fans and ultimately failing because the game you just made is utterly mediocre (coincidentally, this is why I like what R* are doing with Max Payne 3)..
I do have problems with FO3, but I don't hate it. While it's not the Fallout I wanted, I was happy to play it and have fun. Plus, I was pretty sure it would get better. And it did, with New Vegas (IMO, at least).

I never had any problem with the game being 3D, First-Person or anything like that. I do have a couple of problems regarding the story and the mood of the game which in my opinion don't hold a candle to the first 2.

Regarding Max Payne 3, I've been ignoring it ever since I saw a picture that somehow reminded me of Splinter Cell: Double Agent. I'm going to wait a while before I even start paying attention to that game.


I don't really get the whole cult-like obsession with old titles that were good when they were released. There's a big hint in that sentence - they were good, when they were released. I'm really glad F3 decided to completely revamp the series.
I played Fallout 3 before I played the original, but I got the Fallout Collection (F1, F2 and Tactics, iirc) afterwards. And honestly - I didn't really care for it. F3 was just better.

And the fact that it stool aside from the source material was a large part of it. It was its own game. This is also why I disliked NV - it felt like F3, only redressed in a setting that would be closely connected to the original game (and heavily garnished with lots of F3 mods). Kinda cheapened the game for me.
Yeah, New Vegas seemed more like an expansion pack in a couple of ways, but I enjoyed it a lot more.

I disagree with you when you say "they were good". Several of those games still are. Like movies, a good game is ageless.

That doesn't mean I think they should be released today. Sure, I'd probably buy them. Most people wouldn't and this is, above everything else, a business.

We have new technology and gaming have evolved. So people should use the resources and knowledge they have.

What bugs me a bit is that some features have actually disappeared from gaming. For example, games with real choice and consequence, alternative paths, etc, are quite rare nowadays. Stuff like being able to trick your enemies with speech skills and such are rarely seen. And I miss those.

I think you should be able to shoot your enemy in the face... But I also think you should be able to trick him into going down a ladder first and then drop a landmine on his head.

GameMaNiAC said:
NUKE IT FROM ORBIT. IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO BE SURE.

No, seriously, this is the worst game in the entire franchise.

I'm a fan since the original Fallout, but I've never heard of the term POS. I'm assuming it's a 'correct' title for the game. Mind telling me what it stands for?

You can PM me to save the eyes of the innocent souls who happen to be reading it.
:) http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pos
 

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Leviathan_ said:
Stainlesssteele4 said:
Internet Kraken said:
For those wondering why the Fallout franchise fell of the face of the earth for quite some time, that game is partly responsible.
Not just this game, but Interplay's haphazard handling of a great franchise. Its because of that, Bethesda is doing everything to keep Interplay from creating the MMO.
Why is everyone so buttmad at Bethesda then? Seems to me like they are at least trying to keep the spirit of the games intact.
People seem to think Bethesda is going too far, attacking without justification. But they way I see it, Bethesda picked up the rights to the Fallout franchise because they didn't want to see it crumble in the hands of Interplay, and now they're trying to keep it that way.
 

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IDTheftVictim said:
So it's none of the Fallout gameplay I fell in love with(Fallout 3 and on), all the atmosphere is gone, and Ron Perlman isn't in it. Plus it nearly killed the part of me that wanted to try the origional Fallout. I'd go with the kill it with fire, but that seems uncreative at this point, so I'll sneak a frag mine into it's back pocket.

My captcha was an ad
Yeah, don't let it. The first two games have nothing to do with that mess. They're still a pretty significant departure from 3 and New Vegas (turn based combat, for one), but they're excellent games if you can get past the 1997 sprite based graphics.
 

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No... just no..., I have read of this, this is like the third time I'm glad I chose a Gamecube rather that XboX or PS2. Good thing I avoided this game.
 

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I love F3 and I don't really care that it fucked with the "continuity" of Fallout's "history."

/Kanye shrug
 

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Gorilla Gunk said:
I love F3 and I don't really care that it fucked with the "continuity" of Fallout's "history."

/Kanye shrug
Ok. And what does that have to do with this topic?
 

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Nulmas said:
I've just realized that nowadays there are plenty of new Fallout fans that may have not been exposed to a certain game in the franchise. Back when it originally came out (hell, even when it was announced) the game caused a bit of an "interesting" reaction.

So, here's the scenario:

Imagine that Bethesda announces that they would be postponing the development of Fallout 4. In that time, they would be developing a spin-off of the series that was an action dungeon crawler.

And then they hit you with these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz4i_iXNP-E (trailer)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifnMjqdm4QE (video)

For the sake of the argument, ignore the old graphics. Just pretend they're current gen.

So, what would your response to this be like?
They seem ok I suppose. By the way chief An hypothetical question is incorrect grammar. A hypothetical question would be better.
 

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Nulmas said:
I've just realized that nowadays there are plenty of new Fallout fans that may have not been exposed to a certain game in the franchise. Back when it originally came out (hell, even when it was announced) the game caused a bit of an "interesting" reaction.

So, here's the scenario:

Imagine that Bethesda announces that they would be postponing the development of Fallout 4. In that time, they would be developing a spin-off of the series that was an action dungeon crawler.

And then they hit you with these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz4i_iXNP-E (trailer)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifnMjqdm4QE (video)

For the sake of the argument, ignore the old graphics. Just pretend they're current gen.

So, what would your response to this be like?
They seem ok I suppose. By the way chief An hypothetical question is incorrect grammar. A hypothetical question would be better.
I'm never sure which to use when the word it applies to starts with an h. Then again, English's not my first language.

EDIT: Well I got it now. Although it seems that in this particular case, it may be a matter of accent :p
 

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While that was an abomination of God that should have never existed in the first place...

Off topic, I just wish Black Isle would finish Van Buren...
 

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Iklwa said:
I don't know if you're one of these recent Fallout fans, but if you are, I'll fill you in on a little something:

WE DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT MENTION THIS "GAME"
It's true, they don't. I've never heard of it before this thread.
 

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i have played F1 and F2 not much mind it doesnt like Windows Vista or 7 much, but from the videos, its got the wrong feel about it, sure i can see a dungeon crawler working in the fallout universe, as a PSP game maby, but it need to feel the same, it needs to be coherent with the franchise and that is 1950's Retro-futuristic, the Ink Spots and what the 50's saw the future as, on shit went bad and now everything is mutated/ struggling and or trying to kill you.

soooooo this is the same as what we FF Fans call X-2, even though X-2 doesn't Exist AT ALL.
 

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Richardplex said:
uuurgh, super mutants, again? Can I have a morally debatable enemy like the Legion/NCR were?
Oh, come on now. The developers failed miserbly at morally debatable factions.

NCR: Large, mostly impotent but with good intentions. Sort of got a bad first impression with the Khans & BoS.
Legion: Pretty much embody the destruction of western ideals. Crucifictions, mass punishment, slavery, among other things. Caesar is pretty twisted, and he's the best of the bunch morally.
House: It's a shame that wealthy megalomaniacs are immune to the law, otherwise we could just call the police.
 

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Nulmas said:
Harbinger_ said:
Nulmas said:
I've just realized that nowadays there are plenty of new Fallout fans that may have not been exposed to a certain game in the franchise. Back when it originally came out (hell, even when it was announced) the game caused a bit of an "interesting" reaction.

So, here's the scenario:

Imagine that Bethesda announces that they would be postponing the development of Fallout 4. In that time, they would be developing a spin-off of the series that was an action dungeon crawler.

And then they hit you with these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz4i_iXNP-E (trailer)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifnMjqdm4QE (video)

For the sake of the argument, ignore the old graphics. Just pretend they're current gen.

So, what would your response to this be like?
They seem ok I suppose. By the way chief An hypothetical question is incorrect grammar. A hypothetical question would be better.
I'm never sure which to use when the word it applies to starts with an h. Then again, English's not my first language.

EDIT: Well I got it now. Although it seems that in this particular case, it may be a matter of accent :p
No worries just pointing it out, how are you going to know otherwise? Lol
 

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Nulmas said:
I've just realized that nowadays there are plenty of new Fallout fans that may have not been exposed to a certain game in the franchise.
The more I think about it, a switch in genre wouldn't have bothered me. I'd have given it a fair & unbiased shot and if I found it lacking, then I'd hate it.

Even though I was there to play this game and hate it.
 

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Chibz said:
Richardplex said:
uuurgh, super mutants, again? Can I have a morally debatable enemy like the Legion/NCR were?
Oh, come on now. The developers failed miserbly at morally debatable factions.

NCR: Large, mostly impotent but with good intentions. Sort of got a bad first impression with the Khans & BoS.
Legion: Pretty much embody the destruction of western ideals. Crucifictions, mass punishment, slavery, among other things. Caesar is pretty twisted, and he's the best of the bunch morally.
House: It's a shame that wealthy megalomaniacs are immune to the law, otherwise we could just call the police.
Fallout 3: "Can I have a missile launcher, or a minigun?" no reason to support them.
NCR were the 'look at the big picture and ignore the little pictures' guys. Legion was about purifying all that was wrong for them; corruption, theft, smuggling. It was Utilitarianism vs deontological theories. Sure, it could of been done a hell of a lot better, but it was much better than supermutants, who were completely unrelatable with no real reason to murder and destroy.