How many people are going to say they don't want equal rights and opportunities for everyone, if you don't ask them to specify who that everyone is? Sure, there'd be some, but a minority, I think.GundamSentinel said:
Anita Sarkeesian states that sexism against men is impossible
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Saying it is one thing. Actually having opinions on practical situations that match it is quite another.thaluikhain said:
Anita is a living breathing straw man, super easy to attack her arguments because they are often totally brain dead. We can keep focusing on the crazy ones and keep making ourselves look ignant as fuck, or we can have real discussions. We cannot do both.
Hell we might as well dig up something like oh i don't know, this crazy radical feminist who thinks all men should be placed in solitary confinement, and then decry feminism as evil based on it, makes just as much sense. Although give her some hits if you want, its super good for an afternoon laugh, she also thinks all sex is rape and all women have some kind of latent super powers that men are holding back.
(http://witchwind.wordpress.com/2014/10/07/utopia-what-would-a-womens-society-look-like/)
I do not know why, but i love finding the most crazy people i can and reading their tripe, I am currently on a search for the most crazy MRA I can find.
Hell we might as well dig up something like oh i don't know, this crazy radical feminist who thinks all men should be placed in solitary confinement, and then decry feminism as evil based on it, makes just as much sense. Although give her some hits if you want, its super good for an afternoon laugh, she also thinks all sex is rape and all women have some kind of latent super powers that men are holding back.
(http://witchwind.wordpress.com/2014/10/07/utopia-what-would-a-womens-society-look-like/)
I do not know why, but i love finding the most crazy people i can and reading their tripe, I am currently on a search for the most crazy MRA I can find.
Happyninja42 said:
I am in the army right now. Every female I see is either not a soldier or has a higher grade than me. Women in certain areas have it so easy she can't even imagine. Same thing can be said about men in other areas.
As for video games, if sexism against men doesn't exist, I expect her to explain to me how almost every male character in games today has a six pack and pecks that you can grind cheese on.
As for video games, if sexism against men doesn't exist, I expect her to explain to me how almost every male character in games today has a six pack and pecks that you can grind cheese on.
Male power fantasy, I wish i could grind cheese on my nipples. Although i doubt i would eat it afterward. Also, grinding cheese as a concept intrigues me what would you grind it into, perhaps a different type of cheese?katsabas said:
Powdered cheese that you can sprinkle on top of certain meals.Reasonable Atheist said:
But yeah, the men in those games are male fantasies, the same way the women in those games tend to be male fantasies of a different type.
To be fair my best friend Elyse loves it when their are shirtless ripped men in her games.... but she also loves it when their are big wacky titties in her games. So there is that.thaluikhain said:
First off, that particular tweet, which I posted mostly because it was funny, was a guy talking about Ferguson saying that, and this is a direct quote, "black people are the most racist of all" because someone called him names. He was directly comparing being murdered to being made fun of and concluding that he had it worse.WhiteNachos said:
Second, the concept you are referring to is known as the fallacy of relative privation [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_relative_privation], and it doesn't really apply here. An example of the fallacy would be telling a man who was sexually assaulted by a woman to stop whining because that kind of thing happens to women all the time. It is not an example of the fallacy to devote more resources to protecting women than men, when women are statistically at greater risk. Here's a fun illustration:
Context. It's not that men never fear women, but in general, what is your biggest worry when, say, meeting someone you found through an online dating site in person for the first time? For a man, it's usually that he'll be embarrassed or she'll reject him. For a woman, it's usually that he might rape or murder her.
Name one man born after 1960 who was actually drafted into the US military. If it really hurts men, I'm sure you can find some men born in the past half century that it actually hurts.WhiteNachos said:
Even if we used her definition of the word, she'd still be wrong.Zeconte said:
Under her definition a men only draft is sexism against men, the fact that men get longer sentences than women for the same crimes is sexism against men. Airlines having policies where they won't sit unaccompanied children next to men for fear of being pedophiles is sexism against men. If a woman boss targeted their male employees that would be sexism against men.
It doesn't help that her definition of the word is objectively wrong.
I thought you were trying to argue that being called mayonnaise boy isn't racism because sometimes black people get murdered for being black. I think I might've been mistaken so I apologize.DataSnake said:First off, that particular tweet, which I posted mostly because it was funny, was a guy talking about Ferguson saying that, and this is a direct quote, "black people are the most racist of all" because someone called him names. He was directly comparing being murdered to being made fun of and concluding that he had it worse.WhiteNachos said:
Second, the concept you are referring to is known as the fallacy of relative privation [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_relative_privation], and it doesn't really apply here. An example of the fallacy would be telling a man who was sexually assaulted by a woman to stop whining because that kind of thing happens to women all the time. It is not an example of the fallacy to devote more resources to protecting women than men, when women are statistically at greater risk. Here's a fun illustration:
Not the point, she said sexism against men is impossible and yet the US has had a men only draft since at least the civil war. Wouldn't the men who've been forced to go to war over the years be victims of institutionalized sexism?
Anita meant what she said. Look at some subsequent postsLostGryphon said:
https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/533771760873635840
https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/533460936431271937
https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/533768948185972736
You know, I've always wondered why it is that we have specifically locked down what a male power fantasy and a male sex fantasy look like... but whenever someone tries to do the same with women, nobody is able to agree.thaluikhain said: