I'm with ya. I never liked Anon. Committing a crime makes you a criminal no matter what excuse you give.Paragon Fury said:
Anonymous announces its plan to destroy facebook
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That's awesome. i don't use facebook enough to care, and I'd be interested to see if they can pull this off.
It'll be fun to watch Anon duke it out with Zuckerberg, no doubt - and if facebook goes down, then hey, I still got MSN, or possibly google + later, amirite?
So basically fascism... Got yaviranimus said:
The whole "People should only be allowed to do what I think they should do" kind of thinking. Seriously, your whole argument sounds like that of a terrorists, whose got it into his mind that he's doing it for the greater good.Most terrorists think that. They think that they're doing it for the greater good, to them it makes sense. They don't care who suffers from they're actions, they're trying to shape the world to how they see it fit. The current terrorist squad that's going around and this whole war on terror thing started had the same thought with religion.
They pretty much thought everyone should follow their religion to a tee because they'd go to heaven. However they felt that those that weren't were a bad influence on those that were (probably in the same vain of your smoking analogy) and thus needed to be taken out in order to make the world a better place.
This is pretty much the same argument. Your think the world would be a better place if people weren't free to share their own personal information. Though those that are, are a bad influence on those that aren't and thus should be taken care of. Though (hopefully) without murders but just by attacking the sites they use. All in the name of internet freedom and the greater good.
Though it isn't for the greater good. People are using facebook because they like to get into contact with their own friends, talk, share info with their friends, they can do this freely with their own freewill.
Anon apparently wants to stop that because they don't think people shouldn't be allowed to share info or do things they don't like. So in order to do that, they attack the big website for that. Do you see the flaw here in the whole "For internet freedom" if it was true "Freedom" they'd allow those that want to share their info to do so at their own freedom and allow those that don't to keep their anonymity. Instead its more on the lines of "We like being anonymous and thus everyone else should... You don't have a choice in this neither". Sort of the "You're free... To do as we tell you" kind of freedom.
I'm sorry, but I read through your entire post about four times and I still don't see the problem.viranimus said:
There isn't a single piece of information on Facebook, excluding my password, which I wouldn't hand out. I cannot think of a single consequence of this.
I'm also really surprised to hear that there are actually people who aren't using Facebook, since in my experience lack of a Facebook profile indicates that you intentionally don't want to be social or meet up with friends (since all events and meet ups are organised through FB). I can barely even think of anyone I know who doesn't have one, and that's a good thing.
I'm all for privacy and anonymity when surfing the internet, and I respect the ability to post anonymously as I feel it allows people to speak their honest opinion without fear of judgement (and I enjoy 4chan a great deal due to this fact). For example, I'd never openly post my full opinion about every issue on this site as I'd probably get labelled from that point on as "that guy who said that one thing that was disliked".
However, I feel that having a strong online identity is important. I use the same username on every site, and my real name is readily available to anyone who wants it. I don't see a problem in hiding that - anything I say online (or any information I divulge) I would repeat in real life.
Ok. I would challenge these Anon boys and girls to hack something that HELPS someone other than the crap they have been doing lately that end up hurting innocents (like online game company outages, and rural police department hacks). Why don't they take on Big Oil or Mexican drug cartels. Something that would be A - challenging and B - might actually help more people than hurt. Unless, of course, they are just out there to get their jollies off by being "anonymous".
Mmmm... even if it is for good intentions and IF they are right, would our government let something that MILLIONS use go down so easily? No.
I don't think Anonymous would be foolish enough... unless they really are that skilled.
But who knows, we shall see. I don't use FB as much anymore, so I guess I wouldn't be at loss. But if I were to keep in touch with old friends of mine, I would want a Facebook.
I don't think Anonymous would be foolish enough... unless they really are that skilled.
But who knows, we shall see. I don't use FB as much anymore, so I guess I wouldn't be at loss. But if I were to keep in touch with old friends of mine, I would want a Facebook.
Since I don't have a Facebook account, this won't affect me one iota. However, Anon has my full support for this move.
They are correct in that video about the fact that the site withholds every piece of information ever posted onto it's network, and the fact that your accounts can never be deleted. I could understand if it's for security reasons related to national crimes, but not for every Joe and Jane who uses the site.
I can't speak for the sale of information part, but I wouldn't put it past Zuckerberg to go that route with so many users of the service. Plus I can't go anywhere without a business flyer or advertisement saying 'Find us on Facebook.' It's actually quite worrying, even if it is looked at as free advertising.
But, you know what they say: "Nothing in life is ever free."
They are correct in that video about the fact that the site withholds every piece of information ever posted onto it's network, and the fact that your accounts can never be deleted. I could understand if it's for security reasons related to national crimes, but not for every Joe and Jane who uses the site.
I can't speak for the sale of information part, but I wouldn't put it past Zuckerberg to go that route with so many users of the service. Plus I can't go anywhere without a business flyer or advertisement saying 'Find us on Facebook.' It's actually quite worrying, even if it is looked at as free advertising.
But, you know what they say: "Nothing in life is ever free."
*crosses fingers* I really hope they succeed on that, I hate Facebook, it just seems like a profound waste of time to me. But this doesn't seem like something anonymous would do unless this "Facebook conspiracy" is really true and if it is, godspeed (I'm not even christian and that's fun to say), these info-nazi, backstabbers deserve destruction.
Do you find it ironic that that message was on a page that was linked to Facebook?
Edit: Just thought of something. Why would you tell them the date of your attack? Why not be like "hey, we just took it down" because if you tell them you're going to take something down won't they try to stop you? Ultima 6 syndrome.
Do you find it ironic that that message was on a page that was linked to Facebook?
Edit: Just thought of something. Why would you tell them the date of your attack? Why not be like "hey, we just took it down" because if you tell them you're going to take something down won't they try to stop you? Ultima 6 syndrome.
They so jelly.Saucycardog said:
Because they can't start a successful social network. I wonder why...
Yes they did...or did we all forget they did it before the big one?Anoni Mus said:
why? did facebook really do anything worth attacking them? sure they may have had some privacy issues, but even if you succeeded (you won't), it would just force everyone to switch to google plus, which frankly do you really expect them to be any better about privacy concerns, especially if their main competition is beat?
Whatever, bro. I'm not on facebook because I will not give my personal info to people who don't care about privacy by their own admissions.
In other news, a mouse announces its plan to take down a fully grown bear.
Seriously, you can send DDos attacks all you want, but an empire like Facebook won't fall just because of teh haxxors.
Seriously, you can send DDos attacks all you want, but an empire like Facebook won't fall just because of teh haxxors.
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Alright, so everyone can shut up, first, they have the right to do this. And yeah, I know what A LOT of people are going to say, but its like with the PSN outage, users WERE WARNED it could happen, people still signed up and bought things over the system. For some, its more or less easier, while others think about more, there were STILL people, aware of the risk, that it COULD happen. Facebook did the same thing, you have been warned.
Next, Anonymous is powerful, they ARE, more or less they are a core idea [interenet freedom] with held by people who want to withold the idea. So, in a nutshell, this means ANYONE can say their part of it, when their amount of being part of it is debatable.
Thirdly, Facebook, they ARE asses. And infringe on one of Anonymous's ideals, more or less, the ability to be Anonymous over the web, safe and secure. I trust the Escapists not to sell my stuff to foreign politics, or to foreign war lords, or assassins, or rapists, or cons. But on Facebook, your name is RIGHT THERE! And they WILL check to make sure its your REAL name, and your REAL house, and that you are the person you say you are. Its WAY easier to hack someones E-Mail if you know their name.
And finally, my stance on it, as just go ahead Anonymous. People agreed to the risks, and if the risk happens, it shows people to be more cautious with their info-input. Anonymous is a organization that is just trying to make people respect the internet, freedom of its domain, and its livelihood, if they have to do it by hacking people who do things to take away freedom, or take away its credibility, then they should go ahead and do it. Freedom over the internet is a crucial thing that should start to come along in the future, without this group, it may take WAY longer then with it.
Alright, so everyone can shut up, first, they have the right to do this. And yeah, I know what A LOT of people are going to say, but its like with the PSN outage, users WERE WARNED it could happen, people still signed up and bought things over the system. For some, its more or less easier, while others think about more, there were STILL people, aware of the risk, that it COULD happen. Facebook did the same thing, you have been warned.
Next, Anonymous is powerful, they ARE, more or less they are a core idea [interenet freedom] with held by people who want to withold the idea. So, in a nutshell, this means ANYONE can say their part of it, when their amount of being part of it is debatable.
Thirdly, Facebook, they ARE asses. And infringe on one of Anonymous's ideals, more or less, the ability to be Anonymous over the web, safe and secure. I trust the Escapists not to sell my stuff to foreign politics, or to foreign war lords, or assassins, or rapists, or cons. But on Facebook, your name is RIGHT THERE! And they WILL check to make sure its your REAL name, and your REAL house, and that you are the person you say you are. Its WAY easier to hack someones E-Mail if you know their name.
And finally, my stance on it, as just go ahead Anonymous. People agreed to the risks, and if the risk happens, it shows people to be more cautious with their info-input. Anonymous is a organization that is just trying to make people respect the internet, freedom of its domain, and its livelihood, if they have to do it by hacking people who do things to take away freedom, or take away its credibility, then they should go ahead and do it. Freedom over the internet is a crucial thing that should start to come along in the future, without this group, it may take WAY longer then with it.
I wouldn't call them 'scum' but bullies seems right on the mark. Seriously, they're like that annoying church group that give the rest of us a bad name by spreading hate messages.zombie goat fetish said:
