Anonymous Hacks Eidos, Deus Ex Websites - UPDATED

[StarCecil]

I question whether the hack in question is Anonymous. I'd go as far in saying that it's not Anonymous here. The use of a username in the announcement of hacking and the lack of the "We are legion" line is a giveaway.

Yeah some of the recent "Anon" attacks don't really match up with their agenda and motive. It's difficult to tell with an amorphous entity like Anonymous exactly whats going on much less if someone is doing it in their name, etc.

If it's really an Anon Civil War, then it could be some sort of false flag operation. One side trying to lay blame at the other side's feet.

 

[Harbinger_]

I question whether the hack in question is Anonymous. I'd go as far in saying that it's not Anonymous here. The use of a username in the announcement of hacking and the lack of the "We are legion" line is a giveaway.

Yeah some of the recent "Anon" attacks don't really match up with their agenda and motive. It's difficult to tell with an amorphous entity like Anonymous exactly whats going on much less if someone is doing it in their name, etc.

If it's really an Anon Civil War, then it could be some sort of false flag operation. One side trying to lay blame at the other side's feet.

I was thinking the same thing but I was also wondering that if maybe some hacktivists that don't approve of Anon could be trying to frame them.

 

[lacktheknack]

oh come on enough is enough, just shut them down, really. Get a hacker to find out who they all are and just arrest them. This is going too far. Bunch of idiotic kids and teens.

That's not how it works. They have the FREAKING FBI after them, how would some dashing rogue hacker do any better? This isn't Hollywood.

 

[McMullen]

Fuck off.

I don't care if it's Anon anymore, I wish every hacker on the planet would just fall over and die.

Yeah, and while we're at it, how about every gamer, every cop, every soldier... fuck it. Let's just find every demographic that has had a few of its members do horrible things, and kill 'em all. At the end, there won't be any one left to do horrible things. Granted, there won't be anyone left to do horrible things to either, but dammit, I don't care if the world has more complexity and subtlety than I'm prepared to deal with, I've made my blanket judgments and I'm sticking to them!

/sarcasm

Hell yes! That's sounds like an awesome idea.

Hackers? Dead. Pirates? Dead. Ninjas? Dead. Politicians? Dead. Alcoholics? Dead. Taxmen? Dead. Tax evaders? Dead. CEOs? Dead. Postal workers? Dead. Teenagers? Dead. People under 30? Dead. People over 30? Dead.

I do certainly hope you caught the sarcasm in my previous post. No, it wasn't a very delicately worded statement I made but I thought it'd be obvious that I didn't actually mean that every hacker in the world needs to die. Just the assholes.

Yeah I caught it, was just having fun.

 

[binvjoh]

Fuck off.

I don't care if it's Anon anymore, I wish every hacker on the planet would just fall over and die.

Yeah, and while we're at it, how about every gamer, every cop, every soldier... fuck it. Let's just find every demographic that has had a few of its members do horrible things, and kill 'em all. At the end, there won't be any one left to do horrible things. Granted, there won't be anyone left to do horrible things to either, but dammit, I don't care if the world has more complexity and subtlety than I'm prepared to deal with, I've made my blanket judgments and I'm sticking to them!

/sarcasm

Hell yes! That's sounds like an awesome idea.

Hackers? Dead. Pirates? Dead. Ninjas? Dead. Politicians? Dead. Alcoholics? Dead. Taxmen? Dead. Tax evaders? Dead. CEOs? Dead. Postal workers? Dead. Teenagers? Dead. People under 30? Dead. People over 30? Dead.

I do certainly hope you caught the sarcasm in my previous post. No, it wasn't a very delicately worded statement I made but I thought it'd be obvious that I didn't actually mean that every hacker in the world needs to die. Just the assholes.

Yeah I caught it, was just having fun.

Dammit, teaches me for posting when I'm angry.

Well troll'd.

 

[Judgement101]

Now I'm pissed. FIRST you hack PSN, fair enough. But then you hack Deus Ex's website? What the hell can you gain from doing that?!

 

[Xannieros]

I don't refer any hacker to a name or group unless they're caught. Any hacker can be called Anonymous. But this really needs to stop... I'm not giving any of my info away anymore.

 

[Dastardly]

I question whether the hack in question is Anonymous. I'd go as far in saying that it's not Anonymous here. The use of a username in the announcement of hacking and the lack of the "We are legion" line is a giveaway.

And if they'd used the line, we'd be hearing "Oh, come on. The put the "We are Legion" line up there, and we're supposed to just believe it's them? That's a dead giveaway."

Anonymous has no credibility, no accountability. Why do people still insist on defending them when their "members" pull stunts like this for no reason whatsoever. Seriously, what was the "cause" this time around? (Besides "lulz.")

 

[Angry_squirrel]

Anonymous? My arse was this anonymous. He posted his name (if you can call chippy-whatever it was a name). Even if he was under the cover of anonymous before, he isn't now.

 

[mythicdawn12]

Why the fuck attack a a random website that was minding its own business?
I do not understand the reasoning behind this. When huge corporations are being assholes I get it, but this is just some neutral party. It's like slapping Switzerland.

 

[Simalacrum]

I used to really like Anon, back when I was a /b/tard.

Even since I've reformed, I had a soft spot for them. I really enjoyed reading all of those wikileaks and the fact that they took on "folk enemies" such as the Westboro Baptist Church and The Church of Scientology.

However, this new string of hacks aren't for "a good cause" and have completely destroyed any respect I had left for Anonymous.

I am a Playstation 3 and PSP owner, and while my credit card info has not been stolen, my personal information as well as my ability to buy PSONE classics from the playstation store have been hindered.

On the other hand, some hacks are just blamed on Anonymous. Chippy 1337 doesn't sound like Anonymous to me by virtue of the fact that he/she put their name up in Matrix green lettering.

No.1, the only reason Anonymous attacked the Westboro Baptist Church was because they were being a pain in the backside, accusing Anons of things they almost certainly did not do. While WBC may say many offensive and racist things, what is generally unknown about them is that they have a strict policy of not using violence for their cause, for which reason Anonymous initially left them alone - the 'righteous' (if it can be called that) aspect of Anonymous mostly believes in the right to free speech, however offensive what they say, is. All WBC is doing is performing that right, albeit in a rather... odd, manner.

No.2, baring in mind that the aspect of Anonymous that attacks the likes of HB Gary, Scientology, etc, have no or very little connection with any of the attacks to do with Op Sony or this recent attack. The aspect that is attacking the Cult of Scientology is still active and ongoing - monthly protests organised in the name of Anonymous go on at many of the Scientology centres, of which I too am a part of. Most Anon's involved in this are not hackers - many are simply opinionated students like myself, victims of Scientology or parents who's children have been taken away by Scientology. Heck, we even have a website specifically for organising anti-Scientology protests and movements [http://www.whyweprotest.net/], separate from Anon Ops, 4chan, etc.

The aspect of Anonymous that believes in the cause for the right to free speech, and thus attacks via legitimate or illegitimate means, organisations and corporations that abuse this right, is still alive and kicking - please do not associate us with other attacks made by Anonymous - we have pretty much no contact with those making these recent attacks.

Also, to those who claim that this is showing the end of Anonymous and that its going to crumble from within, I call shenanigans and bullshit - this isn't the first time that Anonymous has fought amongst themselves. This happens quite frequently, actually - the website I posted above, for example, quite frequently comes under DDoS attacks by Anons who disagree with the organised nature of our protests.

 

[Mrsoupcup]

Who leaves a flaming bag of dog crap with their name on it? Chippy just went full retard.

 

[Dastardly]

Anonymous tried to create a group of hackers that were out there to take down the man. They never wanted to do this by making the little guy suffer. They also had no leader, and just hoped that everyone was on the same line they were.

Unfortunately, human beings will be human beings, and you will always get some d**k like this chippy who decides that he is better than all the rest and should go ahead and make himself famous.

I still believe in anonymous, but the problem is that as there is no "leader" but rather a group of equals, there is no one to take charge and to tell these rogues off.

Just look back at history, and its been done many times before. Some want all pigs to be equal, but some want some pigs to be more equal than others.

Its a pity that Anonymous is getting the bad press.

chippy - you give hackers a bad name. i spit on your keyboard.

I see here... the situation, as you're describing it:

The folks that started this up are organizing, likely even helping train and equip people to act as digital insurgents against "the man." But they can't really provide any oversight over the people that they have equipped, trained, and empowered. There's no command structure, and so no accountability. And now, some of those elements have decided to go off-mission and do some bad things using the training they've been given (so to speak).

But we don't want to blame Anonymous for this. No, it's not anything they could have prevented, and it's certainly not a problem endemic to vigilante organizations or anything. But wait... isn't it kind of like how the US secretly funded, trained, sold bio/chemical material to Saddam Hussein's Iraq? Or how the US secretly funded Osama bin Laden? You know, back before each of them then turned on his.

When people try to do this kind of shady dealing, "evil for good purposes" crap with no accountability, they are responsible for their part in the fallout later on.

 

[Imp_Emissary]

Seems to me that Anonymous is starting to break up into random groups each fighting with the others, and trying to fulfill their own agenda. So now we have a whole bunch of internet terrorists instead of just one...great.

 

[Anti Nudist Cupcake]

Well... I can't really think this was anonymous. They didn't give any reason as to why this site was attacked and they can't be anonymous because they IDENTIFIED themselves, so it's literally impossible to be considered "anonymous".

Also, it's not hard to see that this hacker has an ego as he's name "chippy1337" suggests, he must be a teenager doing this for the lols and not for any real purpose as anonymous would (even though anonymous has given weak-ass reasons before, they still gave reasons).

If it's a group, it's a group of teenagers.

Just my theory.

 

[Dastardly]

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Oh my sweet, galloping, plaid-wearing Christ. What the hell is with the folks in this thread that continue to defend these idiots with the most twisty, sideways logic imaginable?


A: "You can't stop them because there is no them. They don't have a structure or leaders or a mission, they're a faceless force of vengeance blah blah blah..."

B: "Oh, no no, Anonymous didn't do this. This isn't the sort of thing THEY would do, or the tactics THEY would use. It's not THEIR style."



A: "They don't have a headquarters or uniform or board meetings. They're a cloud floating across the internet--you can't strike at them, but they'll rain lighting down on your blah blah blah blah..."

B: "Well, this wasn't them. We didn't hear about any of it in the channels/forums/etc. So clearly this was someone else."


For the love of God try to grasp the inconsistency inherent in this thinking, people. They're accountable to NO ONE. Not even those of you who buy into the Robin Hood bullshit and think you're part of the li'l revolution you pretend they have going. They hide from consequence, protect themselves from identification... that just means that you allow them to automatically take credit for the things you support, while automatically being absolved of the things you don't.

Even when they're guilty of both. And no, I don't have to prove it. You have to prove they're not. The internet is not an "innocent until proven guilty" country--but even in America, that innocent man has to show his face in court to clear his name. He can't just say, "Yeah, I know they signed my name and left my fingerprints, but it wasn't me. Subpeona declined."

Hearing people spew the nebulous "We are Legion" folk-tale nonsense, and then instantly negating it with their feeble defenses against unfavorable accusations and attributions... it seriously makes me feel like the government is issuing some people crazy pills.

 

[molester jester]

Oh my god somebody hacked something it must be those nasty anonymous guys again, Jesus some people are just hackers not every malevolent internet action is carried out by anonymous, And these consent claims otherwise is doing nothing but making anonymous look like some all powerful internet force.

 

[Denamic]

Anon hacks does not give credit to anyone except Anonymous.
They simply leave some kind of message and the "We are legion" line.
This is just a hacker group dicking around.

 

[sumanoskae]

These people need to grow the fuck up.

 

[Imp_Emissary]

Well... I can't really think this was anonymous. They didn't give any reason as to why this site was attacked and they can't be anonymous because they IDENTIFIED themselves, so it's literally impossible to be considered "anonymous".

Also, it's not hard to see that this hacker has an ego as he's name "chippy1337" suggests, he must be a teenager doing this for the lols and not for any real purpose as anonymous would (even though anonymous has given weak-ass reasons before, they still gave reasons).

If it's a group, it's a group of teenagers.

Just my theory.

Anonymous is not nor has it ever been a group of people who all followed the same rules. They had a "core" group that made some "guidelines", but "Rayn" showed how highly they all respect that. You can no longer expect the hackers to be "Anonymous" (being the group or being unknown) because they don't even have that identity anymore. They are no longer one group. They are just hackers.