Anonymous? My arse was this anonymous. He posted his name (if you can call chippy-whatever it was a name). Even if he was under the cover of anonymous before, he isn't now.
Anonymous Hacks Eidos, Deus Ex Websites - UPDATED
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Why the fuck attack a a random website that was minding its own business?
I do not understand the reasoning behind this. When huge corporations are being assholes I get it, but this is just some neutral party. It's like slapping Switzerland.
I do not understand the reasoning behind this. When huge corporations are being assholes I get it, but this is just some neutral party. It's like slapping Switzerland.
No.1, the only reason Anonymous attacked the Westboro Baptist Church was because they were being a pain in the backside, accusing Anons of things they almost certainly did not do. While WBC may say many offensive and racist things, what is generally unknown about them is that they have a strict policy of not using violence for their cause, for which reason Anonymous initially left them alone - the 'righteous' (if it can be called that) aspect of Anonymous mostly believes in the right to free speech, however offensive what they say, is. All WBC is doing is performing that right, albeit in a rather... odd, manner.liquidsolid said:
No.2, baring in mind that the aspect of Anonymous that attacks the likes of HB Gary, Scientology, etc, have no or very little connection with any of the attacks to do with Op Sony or this recent attack. The aspect that is attacking the Cult of Scientology is still active and ongoing - monthly protests organised in the name of Anonymous go on at many of the Scientology centres, of which I too am a part of. Most Anon's involved in this are not hackers - many are simply opinionated students like myself, victims of Scientology or parents who's children have been taken away by Scientology. Heck, we even have a website specifically for organising anti-Scientology protests and movements [http://www.whyweprotest.net/], separate from Anon Ops, 4chan, etc.
The aspect of Anonymous that believes in the cause for the right to free speech, and thus attacks via legitimate or illegitimate means, organisations and corporations that abuse this right, is still alive and kicking - please do not associate us with other attacks made by Anonymous - we have pretty much no contact with those making these recent attacks.
Also, to those who claim that this is showing the end of Anonymous and that its going to crumble from within, I call shenanigans and bullshit - this isn't the first time that Anonymous has fought amongst themselves. This happens quite frequently, actually - the website I posted above, for example, quite frequently comes under DDoS attacks by Anons who disagree with the organised nature of our protests.
I see here... the situation, as you're describing it:MetalMonkey74 said:
The folks that started this up are organizing, likely even helping train and equip people to act as digital insurgents against "the man." But they can't really provide any oversight over the people that they have equipped, trained, and empowered. There's no command structure, and so no accountability. And now, some of those elements have decided to go off-mission and do some bad things using the training they've been given (so to speak).
But we don't want to blame Anonymous for this. No, it's not anything they could have prevented, and it's certainly not a problem endemic to vigilante organizations or anything. But wait... isn't it kind of like how the US secretly funded, trained, sold bio/chemical material to Saddam Hussein's Iraq? Or how the US secretly funded Osama bin Laden? You know, back before each of them then turned on his.
When people try to do this kind of shady dealing, "evil for good purposes" crap with no accountability, they are responsible for their part in the fallout later on.
Seems to me that Anonymous is starting to break up into random groups each fighting with the others, and trying to fulfill their own agenda. So now we have a whole bunch of internet terrorists instead of just one...great.
Well... I can't really think this was anonymous. They didn't give any reason as to why this site was attacked and they can't be anonymous because they IDENTIFIED themselves, so it's literally impossible to be considered "anonymous".
Also, it's not hard to see that this hacker has an ego as he's name "chippy1337" suggests, he must be a teenager doing this for the lols and not for any real purpose as anonymous would (even though anonymous has given weak-ass reasons before, they still gave reasons).
If it's a group, it's a group of teenagers.
Just my theory.
Also, it's not hard to see that this hacker has an ego as he's name "chippy1337" suggests, he must be a teenager doing this for the lols and not for any real purpose as anonymous would (even though anonymous has given weak-ass reasons before, they still gave reasons).
If it's a group, it's a group of teenagers.
Just my theory.
Oh my sweet, galloping, plaid-wearing Christ. What the hell is with the folks in this thread that continue to defend these idiots with the most twisty, sideways logic imaginable?Andy Chalk said:
A: "You can't stop them because there is no them. They don't have a structure or leaders or a mission, they're a faceless force of vengeance blah blah blah..."
B: "Oh, no no, Anonymous didn't do this. This isn't the sort of thing THEY would do, or the tactics THEY would use. It's not THEIR style."
A: "They don't have a headquarters or uniform or board meetings. They're a cloud floating across the internet--you can't strike at them, but they'll rain lighting down on your blah blah blah blah..."
B: "Well, this wasn't them. We didn't hear about any of it in the channels/forums/etc. So clearly this was someone else."
For the love of God try to grasp the inconsistency inherent in this thinking, people. They're accountable to NO ONE. Not even those of you who buy into the Robin Hood bullshit and think you're part of the li'l revolution you pretend they have going. They hide from consequence, protect themselves from identification... that just means that you allow them to automatically take credit for the things you support, while automatically being absolved of the things you don't.
Even when they're guilty of both. And no, I don't have to prove it. You have to prove they're not. The internet is not an "innocent until proven guilty" country--but even in America, that innocent man has to show his face in court to clear his name. He can't just say, "Yeah, I know they signed my name and left my fingerprints, but it wasn't me. Subpeona declined."
Hearing people spew the nebulous "We are Legion" folk-tale nonsense, and then instantly negating it with their feeble defenses against unfavorable accusations and attributions... it seriously makes me feel like the government is issuing some people crazy pills.
Oh my god somebody hacked something it must be those nasty anonymous guys again, Jesus some people are just hackers not every malevolent internet action is carried out by anonymous, And these consent claims otherwise is doing nothing but making anonymous look like some all powerful internet force.
Anonymous is not nor has it ever been a group of people who all followed the same rules. They had a "core" group that made some "guidelines", but "Rayn" showed how highly they all respect that. You can no longer expect the hackers to be "Anonymous" (being the group or being unknown) because they don't even have that identity anymore. They are no longer one group. They are just hackers.Anti Nudist Cupcake said:
Guys, the power of google is pretty prevalent here. A quick search of "Chippy1337" lands me hacks from August 2010... Man, totally must be related to that whole PSN thing right? Back in August, Chippy took down Infowars... you know, that site that Anon worked at promoting a bit during the Scientology rallies... So wait, Anon attacked the people they supported, and then troll hacked an LA times article in December 2010.
Guys, There have been hackers LONG BEFORE ANON... and there will continue to be them long after Legion has passed. For the time being, as much as you'd like to take your anger and frustration out on one nameless, faceless target. Be aware that there are hundreds of other groups with thousands of other members committed to making the world a bit more miserable to fit it to their agenda.
Chippy is a hacker, but not a member of the Anon 'collective'. He does not represent them and I'm confident they won't represent him should his identity be made public.
Even a search for "2011 Hacker Groups" finds a quick wiki listing with a near dozen of groups.
Stop hating the one with the most press, start upping security and playing the game right.
Security++, Hacker++, Security++, Hacker++ and the cycle continues, if these companies don't maintain good security practices and personal information is leaked because of one malevolent cracker. It's nearly as responsible to the company that failed to hash and secure everything properly or thoroughly.
TL;DR
Most press != Most Evil; Anon is who they've always been... Internet Superheroes. [By their own right, anyways].
sorry,
/rant
Guys, There have been hackers LONG BEFORE ANON... and there will continue to be them long after Legion has passed. For the time being, as much as you'd like to take your anger and frustration out on one nameless, faceless target. Be aware that there are hundreds of other groups with thousands of other members committed to making the world a bit more miserable to fit it to their agenda.
Chippy is a hacker, but not a member of the Anon 'collective'. He does not represent them and I'm confident they won't represent him should his identity be made public.
Even a search for "2011 Hacker Groups" finds a quick wiki listing with a near dozen of groups.
Stop hating the one with the most press, start upping security and playing the game right.
Security++, Hacker++, Security++, Hacker++ and the cycle continues, if these companies don't maintain good security practices and personal information is leaked because of one malevolent cracker. It's nearly as responsible to the company that failed to hash and secure everything properly or thoroughly.
TL;DR
Most press != Most Evil; Anon is who they've always been... Internet Superheroes. [By their own right, anyways].
sorry,
/rant
It was anon trying to frame Ryan whatever. He pissed them off, so they try to implicate him... badly. As evidenced by anon members planning the attack and naming members of the 808 schism up on the hacked site.The Plunk said:
EDIT: Also evidenced by the IRC log about the members of anon planning this attack in their own IRC server.
If this really is Anonymous, just go and arrest all the pricks. When they are doing a bunch of harm and no good to anything, they don't deserve to exist.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
"Man, I love being a turtle." No, WAIT! Wrong line. What I meant was
"Anonymous is nothing but a bunch of thugs." Good to see they're branching out into thievery now too. Hopefully they'll keep this up until someone decides to track them down. ALL OF THEM.
"Man, I love being a turtle." No, WAIT! Wrong line. What I meant was
"Anonymous is nothing but a bunch of thugs." Good to see they're branching out into thievery now too. Hopefully they'll keep this up until someone decides to track them down. ALL OF THEM.
I agree with what your talking about, but can I ask a question?MetalMonkey74 said:
What hacker ever gave hackers a good name?
