Anonymous Splinter Group Targeting Sony Executives

[Togs]

With every new story my respect for Anonymous fades.

They're beginning to remind me of trade unions circa 1975.

Anonymous campaign is really one against oligarchy. We do use some not-so-nice methods. But we believe the methods used by us are not as terrible as the ones used by those we target. Lets not forget Sony is not with out sin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal

Meh, do what you want- just make sure to provide the rest of us with some lulz.

 

[Knusper]

I usually like what Anonyomous does for free-speech but this is definitely counter-productive for Hotz's case

I agree,But there is something more important.That's some awesome avatar, where did you get it.

Type 'Cthulhu' into Google Images and you get it: http://bookstoysgames.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/vote-cthulhu-for-president-on-tuesday/

 

[spartan773]

my stance on this entire thing is with sony.
There's a reason why the root keys are in place, it's to prevent something like this. people uprooting the OS to put linux on it. i see nothing wrong with wanting to play certain games, but when you also pirate games, it's about as bad as stealing the game, even if it's not out already. these people need to learn patience or learn to not be such a fucking cheap-skate.

 

[heydarguise]

Hi guys. My name is "heyguise" and I'm the administrator for the irc channel #sonyrecon (the one this article is about.) If you guys have any questions about what we are doing or the reasons for this I'd be more than glad to answer you.

Not to ask the obvious questions, but what are you doing and what are the reasons?

I mean, I don't see the harassment and pranking of Sony Execs or those involved in the legal process as contributing to Hotz's likelihood of winning the case, and I doubt that it's going to get Sony to drop the suit, so... why?

Hotz case is supposed to be decided by an impartial jury in respect to its self and not outside influences, right? Other wise the American legal system would be corrupt and that could never happen :>

 

[godofallu]

I totally agree with Anonymous on this (as I usually do). Giving scumbags a taste of their medicine is clearly justified.

Plus we should have the freedom of speech, the one which allows us to talk about things. It might be illegal to hack your PS3 (which it shouldn't be) but it shouldn't be illegal to talk about hacking it.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Why target the judge Anon? He's just doing his job. Also by targeting the judge, you're effectively ensuring GeoHotz is fucked. ...well actually, you're pretty much doing that anyway just by pulling this bullshit.

 

[DJROC]

Hi guys. My name is "heyguise" and I'm the administrator for the irc channel #sonyrecon (the one this article is about.) If you guys have any questions about what we are doing or the reasons for this I'd be more than glad to answer you.

Not to ask the obvious questions, but what are you doing and what are the reasons?

I mean, I don't see the harassment and pranking of Sony Execs or those involved in the legal process as contributing to Hotz's likelihood of winning the case, and I doubt that it's going to get Sony to drop the suit, so... why?

Hotz case is supposed to be decided by an impartial jury in respect to its self and not outside influences, right? Other wise the American legal system would be corrupt and that could never happen :>

I'm not sure I see your point. Yes, jury's are not completely impartial, but it doesn't sound like the people you're targeting are on the jury. And I don't see how this is sways public opinion in Hotz favor. Again, I don't see how it helps Hotz. I suppose that may not be your intent.

So, what are you doing, and why are you doing it?

 

[heydarguise]

Why target the judge Anon? He's just doing his job. Also by targeting the judge, you're effectively ensuring GeoHotz is fucked. ...well actually, you're pretty much doing that anyway just by pulling this bullshit.

We believe the judged over reached her legal authority. The judge has allowed Sony to have access to information before the case has even gone to trial.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Why target the judge Anon? He's just doing his job. Also by targeting the judge, you're effectively ensuring GeoHotz is fucked. ...well actually, you're pretty much doing that anyway just by pulling this bullshit.

We believe the judged over reached her legal authority. The judge has allowed Sony to have access to information before the case has even gone to trial.

Was that supposed to be a quote or are you actually speaking for Anonymous?

 

[HyenaThePirate]

Why target the judge Anon? He's just doing his job. Also by targeting the judge, you're effectively ensuring GeoHotz is fucked. ...well actually, you're pretty much doing that anyway just by pulling this bullshit.

We believe the judged over reached her legal authority. The judge has allowed Sony to have access to information before the case has even gone to trial.

Because you are all extremely versed in civil law, business law, copyright law, and for that matter judicial oversight legislation, and U.S. law? The very use of the words "We BELIEVE" sinks your entire purpose into the realm of ego-driven authority. ANONYMOUS is not the law. Anonymous does not DICTATE the law. Anonymous does not have any authority over the court system of a sovereign nation.

This is why I keep returning to the idea that Anonymous is more of a threat than a benefit to a functioning society. Their holier than thou attitudes and determination to use questionable tactics to support their own particular, poorly constructed agenda have always concerned me with their usefulness.

This is not a matter Anonymous should have involved itself in. Especially since the ONLY person who has potentially committed a punishable offense here IS Geohotz. He's not a victim here. He knows what he did, and just because he has personal excuses for his actions doesnt mean he is vindicated by them.

 

[heydarguise]

Hi guys. My name is "heyguise" and I'm the administrator for the irc channel #sonyrecon (the one this article is about.) If you guys have any questions about what we are doing or the reasons for this I'd be more than glad to answer you.

Not to ask the obvious questions, but what are you doing and what are the reasons?

I mean, I don't see the harassment and pranking of Sony Execs or those involved in the legal process as contributing to Hotz's likelihood of winning the case, and I doubt that it's going to get Sony to drop the suit, so... why?

Hotz case is supposed to be decided by an impartial jury in respect to its self and not outside influences, right? Other wise the American legal system would be corrupt and that could never happen :>

I'm not sure I see your point. Yes, jury's are not completely impartial, but it doesn't sound like the people you're targeting are on the jury. And I don't see how this is sways public opinion in Hotz favor. Again, I don't see how it helps Hotz. I suppose that may not be your intent.

So, what are you doing, and why are you doing it?

Raising public awareness about the case, creating discourse, dropping Sony's stock, discovering information that may have been obscured. Here's some thing we discovered.

Sony (Sony Pictures, Columbia Records, Epic Records, Legacy Records, Playstation, Electronics, Individual TV Shows: Seinfeld, Mad About You, Jepoardy, Wheel-of-Fortune, etc.) 67% of their donations are to Democrats

The judge Susan Illston was nominated by Bill Clinton.

Klein is married to Nicole Seligman, General Counsel to Howard Stringer of Sony Corp. Seligman represented former President Bill Clinton during impeachment proceedings in the United States Senate.

Thats at least interesting.

 

[DJROC]

Raising public awareness about the case, creating discourse, dropping Sony's stock, discovering information that may have been obscured.

In that case, you seem to be doing quite well. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Svenparty]

Although Anonymous have turned harassment into an art form this is hardly going to help Geohot in the near future. What Sony are doing may be harsh but Anon are simply making all hackers look bad thus Geohot might get an even harsher sentence.

 

[Agayek]

Theres basically nothing right about that. If Sony didnt try to protect their IPs, then hackers torrenting and illegally copying games would basically bankrupt them, Microsoft, Nintendo, and any other software company. Whats the incentive to making a product if illegally downloading and copying games becomes legal.

The same incentive the thousands upon thousands of open-source projects that currently exist have. Look up the GNU Public License at some point. If everyone agreed with your thoughts here, that wouldn't exist.

All told, I'm with Anon on this one. The whole lawsuit is rather ridiculous. If someone wants to do something, regardless of what it is, with the hardware they bought and paid for, they damn well be able to.

That said, I do think it's over the line to harass the families of those involved. I can't speak to what they plan to do (and social engineering is one of the strongest tools a hacker has), but if it actually crosses into harassment territory, then the whole thing has gone too far.

 

[Misho-]

You wanna fuck with the people involved, you do that, that's one thing. You fuck with their kids, their families... Shit starts to get REALLY creepy. Their families? Seriously? Since when has Anon decided "Tim fucked up, I'm gonna gather all the information I can on his wife and kids"? If one person fucks up, Anon usually attacks that person, not their entire family... This doesn't seem right, this doesn't seem like anon

This is the same group who will hack a website and post everyones password info on the web, and find info about a target and call them on the phone to leave threatening messages. You really didnt see this coming? There is nothing noble about what they do.

I don't know, but DDoS attacks and such are one thing, but going after the family... Take all the dirt and rumors and bullshit you want. but this is just too far

Still is a Splinter Cell of the group. If they get caught, Anonymous at large will deny any reponsibility on that rogue group actions and just keep on doing what they want.

I'm against cyber terrorism for liberty. Oops, I didn't meant to use that word... Well, I did now...

And seriously :"You wanna fuck with the people involved, you do that, that's one thing." That's fucked up man...

 

[TheMadTypist]

-snip-

The phone number was found this way; his number was unlisted on the internet (big exec doesn't want that getting out) How ever his WIFES home number was listed. Since he and his wife live in the same house...we have his phone number. No looking into the family, no chocolate rain :<

Oh... I kind of figured you'd left it on his office voicemail, not the home number.

The wife was under the same roof, and the information was publicly listed, so no real foul play there I guess. The kids, though, aren't they old enough now to live on their own?

Also, I suspect the ponies could use air rifles because they have magnetic powers. Like if Magneto had hooves, and a long flowing mane.

 

[Echo136]

Theres basically nothing right about that. If Sony didnt try to protect their IPs, then hackers torrenting and illegally copying games would basically bankrupt them, Microsoft, Nintendo, and any other software company. Whats the incentive to making a product if illegally downloading and copying games becomes legal.

The same incentive the thousands upon thousands of open-source projects that currently exist have. Look up the GNU Public License at some point. If everyone agreed with your thoughts here, that wouldn't exist.

All told, I'm with Anon on this one. The whole lawsuit is rather ridiculous. If someone wants to do something, regardless of what it is, with the hardware they bought and paid for, they damn well be able to.

That said, I do think it's over the line to harass the families of those involved. I can't speak to what they plan to do (and social engineering is one of the strongest tools a hacker has), but if it actually crosses into harassment territory, then the whole thing has gone too far.

Well lets put it this way. Whens the last time you bought music? Probably a long time. And yet you probably have tons of music on your harddrive. The music industry is all but dead, and the video game industry will follow swiftly if we allow people like Geohot to get away with what he did.


Edit: Also Id like to note that he wasnt just doing this to his own PS3. If that was the case he would have been left unnoticed. He publically posted the source code so the process could be repeated.

 

[Irridium]

So is this why Uncharted 2 is dropping me and others(you know who you are) out of matches?

 

[Irridium]

Well lets put it this way. Whens the last time you bought music? Probably a long time. And yet you probably have tons of music on your harddrive. The music industry is all but dead, and the video game industry will follow swiftly if we allow people like Geohot to get away with what he did.

And it won't get much better if we let companies do whatever the hell they feel like and hiding behind the EULA's.

I don't give a shit about Geohot, but I really hope his case opens up further cases about EULA's, and how bullshit and anti-consumer they are.

 

[Gottesstrafe]

You wanna fuck with the people involved, you do that, that's one thing. You fuck with their kids, their families... Shit starts to get REALLY creepy. Their families? Seriously? Since when has Anon decided "Tim fucked up, I'm gonna gather all the information I can on his wife and kids"? If one person fucks up, Anon usually attacks that person, not their entire family... This doesn't seem right, this doesn't seem like anon

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