Anonymous Splinter Group Targeting Sony Executives

[heydarguise]

Proof that people in anonymous are childish bullies who have no lives. Anyone who supports them deserves none of my respect either.

Well, why would I want your respect?

Hi guys. My name is "heyguise" and I'm the administrator for the irc channel #sonyrecon (the one this article is about.) If you guys have any questions about what we are doing or the reasons for this I'd be more than glad to answer you.

But as Rebbeca black says 3:40pm waking up in the after noon...gotta have my bowl

Are you guys actually looking for info on Stringer's kids too? I can... sort of understand the rationale behind the attack - I don't like it, but can understand it - but trying to get personal info on people who have absolutely nothing to do with this, and kids nonetheless, is actually kinda sick.

There are no civilians in a warzone.

You make me sad face :<

 

[The Funslinger]

Does Anon even understand that Sony is doing this because of the root key? It is their own software and Geohot shouldn't of made it public. As someone said before me:

Also let me make it very clear. Sony is right.

Not in everything of course, God no. But the system root key is their intellectual property. When you buy a PS3 you don't buy the intellectual property from them. Geo Hotz had no right to post it online.

In my opinion this is correct.

Why should they even get involved anyway, they are making the situation worse for Geohot. Sony will just get more determined and will probably try to use this to win the case.

To be honest, I don't really think Anonymous cares about Geohot. A long standing "moral" of theirs has been "you're expected to keep making all this cool shit, but we shouldn't have to pay for it if we want it for free, because that totally works". They're just doing it to exercise their power, pseudo-siding with Geohot because it in a way stands for what they want.

 

[ChocoCake]

So I couldn't play a decent match of Crysis 2 last night because of this?

 

[nipsen]

You wanna fuck with the people involved, you do that, that's one thing. You fuck with their kids, their families... Shit starts to get REALLY creepy. Their families? Seriously? Since when has Anon decided "Tim fucked up, I'm gonna gather all the information I can on his wife and kids"? If one person fucks up, Anon usually attacks that person, not their entire family... This doesn't seem right, this doesn't seem like anon

Thats misleading. Howard Stringer (born 1942) is an older man and his children are adults. We dont even want to mess with them but its possible to socially engineer the situation and get them to give us information about Mr Stringer, for example his cell phone number so we can ask him if he lieks mudkipz.

Mm. I think this is information that is of specific interest, too, and therefore should be volunteered by Sony's employees regardless of method, lawsuit or legal precedent. It's only fair.

 

[lord canti]

Yet people wonder why I think this generation is completly screwed. We have the most backwards ass way of thinking.

 

[Kaytastrophe]

bunch of cowards if you ask me. Seriously attacking the family members of Sony exec. To me that's just crossing a line. Besides who gave these 14 year old shut ins with a computer the authority to deal out justice (if you want to call it that)?

So, we should just bow down to corporations? There is no line when it comes to freedom from big business.

No I have no problems with people standing up against big companies. However, if you have a problem with someone, you deal with them directly, you don't go after their families. That's just cowardly. For all you know the family may not support what Sony is doing.

 

[The Funslinger]

honestly, is this "anonymous" or some pissed off gamers pretending to be them, anon goes after anti- free speech activity, not a dim witted sony.

honestly i figured this would be beneath them.

somethings wrong here.

Anonymous isn't fully organized, though, is it? It isn't all one leader/group of leaders planning and stuff. Someone wants to do something, they rally other likeminded members around them. Looking at them as one fully organized and cooperating whole is going to make a lot of things not add up. (I don't think you could turn them on each other, though.

 

[Colinmac93]

Oh yay, Anonymous have joined the GeoHot vs Sony party. Like it wasn't bad enough already.

 

[heydarguise]

You wanna fuck with the people involved, you do that, that's one thing. You fuck with their kids, their families... Shit starts to get REALLY creepy. Their families? Seriously? Since when has Anon decided "Tim fucked up, I'm gonna gather all the information I can on his wife and kids"? If one person fucks up, Anon usually attacks that person, not their entire family... This doesn't seem right, this doesn't seem like anon

Thats misleading. Howard Stringer (born 1942) is an older man and his children are adults. We dont even want to mess with them but its possible to socially engineer the situation and get them to give us information about Mr Stringer, for example his cell phone number so we can ask him if he lieks mudkipz.

Not misleading at all actually, because never once did I imply "Young, small, tots, toddlers, young'uns, tiny, or ankle bitters" and therefore no age. Also, notice just abut every time I mention kids, I mention family. You wanna piss on stringer, that's one thing, stay away from his family. It's uncalled for. Don't ask them for information to hack him. You're the great hacking group right? Can't figure it out for yourself? You have to harass his family in order to harass him?

In some ways I agree with you, but still I still see it as mostly harmless pranks. Some anons have made this point; In the case the judge allowed Sony to force Youtube to tell them the people who've visited geohots youtube page for example. That seams tantamount to Sony demanding to see what you've checked out at the library. While we may be invading certain Sony employees private lives, they are invading the entire publics.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/07/judge-in-sony-vs-geohot-orders-youtube-and-others-to-give-up-us/

 

[Digikid]

While I support Geohot for wanting things to be "open" ( I do NOT support piracy whatsoever ) I cannot help by think that Anonymous is going about this all wrong.

That said....I laugh at Sony. They will surely lose this war and anything that brings Sony down....has my complete support.

EDIT: Anonymous needs to target the TARGETS though....not the families. That is not helping anyone.

 

[heydarguise]

While I support Geohot for wanting things to be "open" ( I do NOT support piracy whatsoever ) I cannot help by think that Anonymous is going about this all wrong.

That said....I laugh at Sony. They will surely lose this war and anything that brings Sony down....has my complete support.

Have you seen there stock prices? Like watching a fat kid ride a trike down a steep hill.


http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:SNE

 

[Shadie777]

To be honest, I don't really think Anonymous cares about Geohot. A long standing "moral" of theirs has been "you're expected to keep making all this cool shit, but we shouldn't have to pay for it if we want it for free, because that totally works". They're just doing it to exercise their power, pseudo-siding with Geohot because it in a way stands for what they want.

They are worse than the "evil" company that they are trying to fight against. Heck, the company and the large number of employees deserve to earn the money >_>. If the company loses money so do the employees that support it and most of them are only trying to earn a good amount of wage just like everyone else.

Anonymous, modern day freedom fighters for the little man.

Shine on you magnificent bastards!

I am curious on why you would support this. Sony is only trying to protect their own interests. I am absolutely sure that anyone would do the same in their position, including me. Of course, this does not mean that they are totally right in all this.

 

[Manchubot]

Nothing to really agree or disagree with anon about. They are the chaotic force of the internet just stay out of its way because it's like trying to negotiate with a natural disaster it's going to happen even if 99.9% of the world agrees or disagrees.

 

[heydarguise]

I guess you could consider Anon the Internet's equivalent of a riot mob. Disconnected, disollusioned, a massive mix of people all working towards vaguely similar aims.

It's just a shame that they tend to get portrayed as a singular entity acting in unison. That's a hypothesis that makes no sense.

Thats pretty right. Hive of supremely bored ponies.

 

[Celtic_Kerr]

You wanna fuck with the people involved, you do that, that's one thing. You fuck with their kids, their families... Shit starts to get REALLY creepy. Their families? Seriously? Since when has Anon decided "Tim fucked up, I'm gonna gather all the information I can on his wife and kids"? If one person fucks up, Anon usually attacks that person, not their entire family... This doesn't seem right, this doesn't seem like anon

Thats misleading. Howard Stringer (born 1942) is an older man and his children are adults. We dont even want to mess with them but its possible to socially engineer the situation and get them to give us information about Mr Stringer, for example his cell phone number so we can ask him if he lieks mudkipz.

Not misleading at all actually, because never once did I imply "Young, small, tots, toddlers, young'uns, tiny, or ankle bitters" and therefore no age. Also, notice just abut every time I mention kids, I mention family. You wanna piss on stringer, that's one thing, stay away from his family. It's uncalled for. Don't ask them for information to hack him. You're the great hacking group right? Can't figure it out for yourself? You have to harass his family in order to harass him?

In some ways I agree with you, but still I still see it as mostly harmless pranks. Some anons have made this point; In the case the judge allowed Sony to have access to people who've visited geohots youtube page for example. That seams tantamount to Sony demanding to see what you've checked out at the library. While we may be invading certain Sony employees private lives, they are invading the entire publics.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/07/judge-in-sony-vs-geohot-orders-youtube-and-others-to-give-up-us/

It gives them an IP address and a name, but legally, SONY isn't allowed to do much with the information. They were looking for a connection to California. Do you know what that means? They are allowed to look at the IP address and see how many come from California. That's really about it. They MIGHT be able to look at the city or get a name. Beyond that, SONY is forbidden to do anything. Did you understand this before you decided SONY was being the most evil bastards? OH, and when it says it gets their user data, it's limited to the information entered.

It's like facebook. Don't ***** that someone calls your home number and pranks you if you have an open account with your phone number displayed on facebook.

 

[FalloutJack]

Oh, this is silly. I think I pointed out before that it's all for naught. And why should Anonymous actions affect Geohotz? That don't make no sense. The only thing that can affect him is the actual trial. Whatever doings Anonymous is up to have nothing to do with him. They and Sony may as well be fighting on the other side of the planet (and probably are). The hacker modding his PS3 is not likely responsible, so you can't 'make an example of him'. That would BE unlawful, contrary to the point trying to be made.

 

[Jegsimmons]

honestly, is this "anonymous" or some pissed off gamers pretending to be them, anon goes after anti- free speech activity, not a dim witted sony.

honestly i figured this would be beneath them.

somethings wrong here.

Anonymous isn't fully organized, though, is it? It isn't all one leader/group of leaders planning and stuff. Someone wants to do something, they rally other likeminded members around them. Looking at them as one fully organized and cooperating whole is going to make a lot of things not add up. (I don't think you could turn them on each other, though.

well true, it isnt organized, but this really isnt their MO, sony is just doing this to protect their company's interest (though it is stupid in a sense) and anonymous upright attacking them and their families so they can pirate is almost the opposite of what anon fights for. i mean theres a difference between a protest and INTERNET terrorism.
so i cant call these guys anon in the classical sense.

 

[sheah1]

Aaaaaaand now I can't sign into PSN. I'm going on holiday in a couple'a days and I just got a new PSP memory stick, so if my downloads aren't on my PSP by tomorrow I'm going to be putting up a "go Sony" flag. I know there's maintenance and stuff going on but still.

 

[funguy2121]

Who throws a shoe? Honestly?

 

[heydarguise]

To be honest, I don't really think Anonymous cares about Geohot. A long standing "moral" of theirs has been "you're expected to keep making all this cool shit, but we shouldn't have to pay for it if we want it for free, because that totally works". They're just doing it to exercise their power, pseudo-siding with Geohot because it in a way stands for what they want.

This means they are no different than the "evil" company's that they are trying to fight against. Heck, the company and the large number of employees deserve to earn the money >_>. If the company loses money so do the employees that support it and most of them are only trying to earn a good amount of wage just like everyone else.

Anonymous, modern day freedom fighters for the little man.

Shine on you magnificent bastards!

Why are you supporting them anyway? Im am actually curious on why you would support this. Sony is only trying to protect their own interests. I am absolutely sure that anyone would do the same in their position, including me.

It sets a dangerous legal precedent and law functions on precedent. A lawyer in a future case may argue "In the case of Sony vs George 'geohot' Hotz the judge allowed the plaintiff information on the people who veiwed the potentially illegal (because this case hasn't went to trial yet. Innocent until proven guilty.) material posted by the defendant." We don't like the way that reads and as members of the public were voicing our dissent in a way we feel more effective then a boycott for example.