Blazeaga said:
I don't really understand why america or like the goverment is attack anon, is it 4chan only or are there many many other sites similar? Because i guess when they attack sites it could cause major hassels for some people but can't that be done with simple asking them to stop instead of threats? anyways if any one would kindly tell me the reasons on both sides i would gladly read them and apreciate it
i find this funny
It's semi-independent from 4chan, but they, at least used to, lurk and rally there. But, regardless, it's gone a bit past the kind words stage.
Addicted Muffin said:
shakaar9267 said:
Daemascus said:
Dont this people have anything better to do? If they used all that time and energy on legal things they could make lots of money.
tony2077 said:
wow anonymous really needs to be taken out there too dangerous and too good at what they do
Agreed. 'Anonymous' are really just criminals who use ID theft to fund their crimes. Calling themselves 'heroes' is insulting to anybody who works for a living.
Funds? ID theft?
Anonymous does what they do for free, they have no need to steal IDs. They posted this man's personal information to say, "Hey, you underestimated us. We're stronger than you think"
They have no need for funds as they are not an organized group.
They may not need to, but they did steal identity information, some of which they published, both in this case and earlier with the attacks on Mastercard and Visa. So, yeah, your "heroes" are (in these cases) acting like common muggers. Now, when presented with this fact, you can whine or cry about how the "big bad world" just doesn't understand them or
you can understand that these are not white knights trying to save the world, just entitled little brats out to score some moolah while hiding behind noble sounding statements.
Addicted Muffin said:
Crime? These are the people who are stopping a censored internet. Have you heard of the ACTA? If something like that were to pass in one nation, the whole world would see that it's possible and then enact their own ACTA on their nations internets. Sites like youtube and many others that several people have come to love, would be forced to be blocked. If you want more information, look up ACTA or just Message me.
Because god forbid you have to actually pay for the content you consume. Youtube is protected from the DCMA by compliance with the Safe Harbor provisions.
Or are you going to seriously try to argue that there is such a thing as no copyright laws?
Addicted Muffin said:
Sure, the way Anonymous goes about their bussiness isnt exactly legal, sometimes, but what they do is for the greater good.
Yeah, just like every one else who has encouraged sacrifices in the name of the greater good, like, say, China, and the glorious cultural revolution. Oh, right, people starving to death on mass for the "greater good", what fucking good?
You cannot sacrifice your ethics to do something greater. You can't sacrifice the smaller ideals to protect larger ones, because without the smaller ideals there's nothing left to sustain the larger ones. There is no legitimate sacrifice for the greater good that is itself a criminal action. Just ask our last executive.
Finally, Anonymous isn't out to free the world from tyranny, these are the same entitled little shits that think its a fine old time to bully and harass a teenage girl because she won't get naked for them. Yeah, sorry, but is this
really your image of a hero? People so noble they have to bully and harass girls to feel bigger about themselves? That's a hell of a character standard you're setting there.
Addicted Muffin said:
Anonymous isnt out to ruin lives.
Well, they may not be trying, but goddamn if they aren't succeeding. They're getting people fucking killed in Africa, all in the name of "helping them". It's like American foreign policy, only without any upside.
Addicted Muffin said:
They're like the dark knights of the world, they see a law being discussed that will limit freedom in the world, they try to stop it, they see a kid abusing his cat for lulz, they send that kid to juvie.
They see a girl wearing a shirt and they piss on her to take it off... yeah, real fuckin' heroes you've got there.
Addicted Muffin said:
People have let the twisted lies that the media has put out about anonymous fill their heads.
Yes, lies, you mean like the transparent ones they fed to their own members about what to say to get out of police investigations? Because that's not going to end well either.
Addicted Muffin said:
The simple truth behind Anonymous is, they enjoy their freedom, and will fight to the death to preserve it...
Yes, but they're not the ones dying. They've figured out how to make other people die for them, so it's not like they're risking a goddamn thing, they're just fucking people over and getting them killed for the lulz.
Addicted Muffin said:
and to all those who state that Anonymous will end with the internet, you are wrong. You have merely taken away one of the ways to meet, the way that keeps them from being an unorganized jumble. If you leave them without the internet, they WILL find ways to meet, and they WILL become organized.
Beware the wrath of the kitten brigade? Or should we fear that a couple dozen overweight teenagers will overthrow the government with some airsoft guns? No, if they leave the internet they will die or spend the rest of their lives in prison. That's why they're hiding on the internet, because they think (incorrectly) that it can protect them. That simply isn't the case anymore, as they're rapidly finding out.
Addicted Muffin said:
This being said, I fully support Anonymous, carry on the good work brothers.... "brofist", you've earned it.
No fucking shit, really. Why am I not surprised?
