Anonymous' Target Planned to "Take Down" WikiLeaks
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Sure, the problem is that these illegal sources can also release dangerous information as well. We certainly didn't have a right to know that the invading fleet on D-day was going to Normandy, and not Calais, because if the info was published in papers, the Nazis would have found out and crushed our invading forces. You might say we have a right to know what our military is spending its budget on, but if they published the records that included the expenditures on all of the fake landing craft it would have endangered the troops. We have a right to know a lot of things, but it isn't always black and white, unfortunately.Arkhangelsk said:
How much money was spent on the Manhattan project? We couldn't release any info about that. But yes, if Obama is building a golden castle we should definitely hear about it.
OH MAN, I cannot wait for the movie for all this! And since we don't know what anyone at Anonymous looks like--and I hope we never find out--they can take their pick of the coolest actors in hollywood!
Now if they could take it up a notch and blast the white slave traders, drug cartels, and other black hats of the world. Oh, and free North Korea too.
Keep kickin' ass, Anonymous!
Now if they could take it up a notch and blast the white slave traders, drug cartels, and other black hats of the world. Oh, and free North Korea too.
Keep kickin' ass, Anonymous!
Chanology was a simple use of Social networking, you tell enough people about it on Facebook etc and soon you'll have hordes turning up.thethingthatlurks said:
I wasnt particularly talking about the DoS/DDoS attacks, as they can be commited by a trained monkey (excluding botnet attacks which do require quite some ability) but to hack and steal data from major companies and getting that quantity of data -without being cought- is a bit different.
"as most of the country was busy watching heavy-set men play with a leather ball"
OK, what's your damn problem? Enough with the American jokes already. What exactly were we supposed to be looking out for? What were we supposed to be doing? Should we have been standing outside with binoculars or something in case an Anonymous member just happened to walk by?
And for your information, we don't all sit on our asses all day and watch what we call football. I don't even like sports that much. And you know there's American members on this forum site, right? Seriously, cut it out already.
Regarding Wikileaks, why do some of you sound like you don't support them? The people have a right to know what their government is up to, and Wikileaks helps provide that knowledge.
OK, what's your damn problem? Enough with the American jokes already. What exactly were we supposed to be looking out for? What were we supposed to be doing? Should we have been standing outside with binoculars or something in case an Anonymous member just happened to walk by?
And for your information, we don't all sit on our asses all day and watch what we call football. I don't even like sports that much. And you know there's American members on this forum site, right? Seriously, cut it out already.
Regarding Wikileaks, why do some of you sound like you don't support them? The people have a right to know what their government is up to, and Wikileaks helps provide that knowledge.
You need to get your Facts straight there.ShadowKatt said:
Wikileaks was especially careful not to release those kind of informations, despite having an abundance of them.
What they released was not battlefield information on troop-movements, but stuff that could discredit the US-Army and jeopardize support for stationing troops in Iraq.
...stuff like THIS
In-fact, the argument you just used was the same one invoked by the US-Army at the time, and has long-since been dismantled ...so please excuse me if I question your motives here for a second.
Also,
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/1695/290b5fc3666c49f8a224721.jpg
old
we did not attack amazon.com
we attacked egyptian government sites last month as well to join the newly succesful Egyptian revolt.
We're moving on to Iran
Official Press release below.
MOST RESPECTABLE AND HONORABLE CITIZENS OF IRAN,
YOU ARE SPEAKING OUT- AND WE ARE LISTENING
We have not forgotten.
The protesters who are imprisoned and beaten, the bloggers who are censored, the citizens who are executed for speaking against the regime, you are the ones truly loyal to your country.
A new dawn is nearing that will set you and your great country free from the shackles of oppression, tyranny and torture. It will let you exhale, and finally take the first breath that will fill your lungs with strength, wisdom and freedom.
Anonymous will support and stand by your side all the way to the liberation of the body and mind for all Iranian citizens.
You and I who are anonymous are fearless of the discriminating regime. They already know of us, but can do nothing to stop us. They already fear us, but stand helpless to what will be unleashed upon them.
But most of all they fear you, which is why they have kept you in shackles for so long.
This is your time, you can now seize it and pave the way for your own future.
The government of Iran deliberately confuses dissent with disloyalty. It unjustly makes examples out of those who speak against its actions, hoping that it can scare others from doing the same by delivering harsh punishments. The government needs to be held accountable for its crimes against you, its citizens.
People of Iran, you will not be denied your right to free speech and free press; your right to freedom of assembly, uncensored information and unlimited access to the Internet; your right to a life without oppression and fear.
We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
we did not attack amazon.com
we attacked egyptian government sites last month as well to join the newly succesful Egyptian revolt.
We're moving on to Iran
Official Press release below.
MOST RESPECTABLE AND HONORABLE CITIZENS OF IRAN,
YOU ARE SPEAKING OUT- AND WE ARE LISTENING
We have not forgotten.
The protesters who are imprisoned and beaten, the bloggers who are censored, the citizens who are executed for speaking against the regime, you are the ones truly loyal to your country.
A new dawn is nearing that will set you and your great country free from the shackles of oppression, tyranny and torture. It will let you exhale, and finally take the first breath that will fill your lungs with strength, wisdom and freedom.
Anonymous will support and stand by your side all the way to the liberation of the body and mind for all Iranian citizens.
You and I who are anonymous are fearless of the discriminating regime. They already know of us, but can do nothing to stop us. They already fear us, but stand helpless to what will be unleashed upon them.
But most of all they fear you, which is why they have kept you in shackles for so long.
This is your time, you can now seize it and pave the way for your own future.
The government of Iran deliberately confuses dissent with disloyalty. It unjustly makes examples out of those who speak against its actions, hoping that it can scare others from doing the same by delivering harsh punishments. The government needs to be held accountable for its crimes against you, its citizens.
People of Iran, you will not be denied your right to free speech and free press; your right to freedom of assembly, uncensored information and unlimited access to the Internet; your right to a life without oppression and fear.
We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
I will say no more, I am merely relaying relevant information to a news website.Numachuka said:
brb fucking off
THIS. THIS is why we need freedom of information. Blowing apart the image of corporate scumbags too far up their ivory towers to get dumped on for what they deserve. This is why WikiLeaks needs to keep going so the back handed under-the-table deals that leave even a SLIGHT paper trail are wide open for the public to see, hopefully making it harder or them having the common sense to feel it's too much hassle to begin with.
Kudos.
Kudos.
Well actually, if you consider the actual amount of time between the original website infiltration and the documents being put up, it becomes even less likely the files have been edited.
I'm not vary familiar with Anonymus, but i get the idea that they don't attack people without good cause(and no-one gets directly physically hurt by their "attacks". so that's a huge improvement over the "Suicide bomb/hostage/Massacre" versions of political attacks)
My stance on WikiLeaks is this: If you don't want people to know about it, then you shouldn't be doing it.
I recently learned that Sweden (my country of Citizenship) is a rare exception when it come to the government and how it deals with "Secret Files". Apparently, unlike most other countries, the Swedish governments leaves all government files public (I suppose active military information is locked away for the safety of the troops), and any citizen has the right to request to see files concerning the government. When such a request is made, a board is available to determine if the information in the file would lead to endangering someone's life if released. If not, then the citizen is free to view the file. If determined that relasing the file in question would endanger someone, then it is stamped "secret", but only temporarily. I forget what the maximum amount of time is, but it's not decades, probably not even years. It can always be renewed after it expires, it would go through the same process.
Apparently, most countries do the exact OPPOSITE! Ever heard of Honesty and Transparency? Or Civil SERVANTS?
The citizens of any country are the Lord/Lady of the mansion, the government is the maid/butler/cook/driver/gardener/guard, and can be easily replaced if they do not do their jobs properly.
My stance on WikiLeaks is this: If you don't want people to know about it, then you shouldn't be doing it.
I recently learned that Sweden (my country of Citizenship) is a rare exception when it come to the government and how it deals with "Secret Files". Apparently, unlike most other countries, the Swedish governments leaves all government files public (I suppose active military information is locked away for the safety of the troops), and any citizen has the right to request to see files concerning the government. When such a request is made, a board is available to determine if the information in the file would lead to endangering someone's life if released. If not, then the citizen is free to view the file. If determined that relasing the file in question would endanger someone, then it is stamped "secret", but only temporarily. I forget what the maximum amount of time is, but it's not decades, probably not even years. It can always be renewed after it expires, it would go through the same process.
Apparently, most countries do the exact OPPOSITE! Ever heard of Honesty and Transparency? Or Civil SERVANTS?
The citizens of any country are the Lord/Lady of the mansion, the government is the maid/butler/cook/driver/gardener/guard, and can be easily replaced if they do not do their jobs properly.
Thanks for proving my point. There are no emails. Just an encrypted garbage file on torrents claiming it is really email, a made up power-point presentation made up by anonymous, and an unreliable media source that hasn't been confirmed. Not a shred of proof.thethingthatlurks said:Here ya go, buddy:Baldr said:
http://wikileaks.ch/IMG/pdf/WikiLeaks_Response_v6.pdf
http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201106/6785/Report-HBGary-used-as-an-object-lesson-by-Anonymous
http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201106/6804/Firm-targeting-WikiLeaks-cuts-ties-with-HBGary-apologizes-to-reporter
PS:
I still don't see how Wikileaks made the US look bad. If anything it's just shown the country isn't nearly as bad as most people thinks.
For every 1 super terrible thing they find out a thousand other things aren't really all that bad. Just kinda embarrassing really.
I'd much rather it be the US than any other nation being mocked, maybe it'll inspire the country to change
. I know overly optimistic but as a US citizen I much enjoy wikileaks. It's very interesting.
Generally speaking, if you are terrified of knowing something you've done, you shouldn't be doing what you are doing. In the cases of mass homophobia and those sorts of things the goal should not be to hide oneself but to expose all at once and show that it's not an isolated problem and that these are not broken people. In the case of corporations, there is no law that says you must hurt people to profit.
In fact it's extremely easy to make money and still be a good person.
For every 1 super terrible thing they find out a thousand other things aren't really all that bad. Just kinda embarrassing really.
I'd much rather it be the US than any other nation being mocked, maybe it'll inspire the country to change
. I know overly optimistic but as a US citizen I much enjoy wikileaks. It's very interesting.Generally speaking, if you are terrified of knowing something you've done, you shouldn't be doing what you are doing. In the cases of mass homophobia and those sorts of things the goal should not be to hide oneself but to expose all at once and show that it's not an isolated problem and that these are not broken people. In the case of corporations, there is no law that says you must hurt people to profit.
In fact it's extremely easy to make money and still be a good person.
As i said, i know very little about them. But yeah, from what iv'e seen, LULZ is as likely a cause as true intent.David_G said:
Oh man cyberpunk 2020. My fixer got his head sliced open by a ripperpunk (critical hit with implant claws) and the gm said that his onboard computer was damaged and couldnt interface his brain anymore. But I got the gm to compromise and say I could access cybertargeting on my smartgun but only if I was high on "stars" which was a street drug version of a genetic therapy that enhanced brain activity in dementia sufferers.
So basically my character became crazy crackhead who would have to find cover while in a gunfight to snort because otherwise he lost all his combat abilities. And from then on all his missions were for or against dealers so he could get more drugs.
Good times.
So basically my character became crazy crackhead who would have to find cover while in a gunfight to snort because otherwise he lost all his combat abilities. And from then on all his missions were for or against dealers so he could get more drugs.
Good times.