I will say no more, I am merely relaying relevant information to a news website.Numachuka said:
brb fucking off
Anonymous' Target Planned to "Take Down" WikiLeaks
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THIS. THIS is why we need freedom of information. Blowing apart the image of corporate scumbags too far up their ivory towers to get dumped on for what they deserve. This is why WikiLeaks needs to keep going so the back handed under-the-table deals that leave even a SLIGHT paper trail are wide open for the public to see, hopefully making it harder or them having the common sense to feel it's too much hassle to begin with.
Kudos.
Kudos.
Well actually, if you consider the actual amount of time between the original website infiltration and the documents being put up, it becomes even less likely the files have been edited.
I'm not vary familiar with Anonymus, but i get the idea that they don't attack people without good cause(and no-one gets directly physically hurt by their "attacks". so that's a huge improvement over the "Suicide bomb/hostage/Massacre" versions of political attacks)
My stance on WikiLeaks is this: If you don't want people to know about it, then you shouldn't be doing it.
I recently learned that Sweden (my country of Citizenship) is a rare exception when it come to the government and how it deals with "Secret Files". Apparently, unlike most other countries, the Swedish governments leaves all government files public (I suppose active military information is locked away for the safety of the troops), and any citizen has the right to request to see files concerning the government. When such a request is made, a board is available to determine if the information in the file would lead to endangering someone's life if released. If not, then the citizen is free to view the file. If determined that relasing the file in question would endanger someone, then it is stamped "secret", but only temporarily. I forget what the maximum amount of time is, but it's not decades, probably not even years. It can always be renewed after it expires, it would go through the same process.
Apparently, most countries do the exact OPPOSITE! Ever heard of Honesty and Transparency? Or Civil SERVANTS?
The citizens of any country are the Lord/Lady of the mansion, the government is the maid/butler/cook/driver/gardener/guard, and can be easily replaced if they do not do their jobs properly.
My stance on WikiLeaks is this: If you don't want people to know about it, then you shouldn't be doing it.
I recently learned that Sweden (my country of Citizenship) is a rare exception when it come to the government and how it deals with "Secret Files". Apparently, unlike most other countries, the Swedish governments leaves all government files public (I suppose active military information is locked away for the safety of the troops), and any citizen has the right to request to see files concerning the government. When such a request is made, a board is available to determine if the information in the file would lead to endangering someone's life if released. If not, then the citizen is free to view the file. If determined that relasing the file in question would endanger someone, then it is stamped "secret", but only temporarily. I forget what the maximum amount of time is, but it's not decades, probably not even years. It can always be renewed after it expires, it would go through the same process.
Apparently, most countries do the exact OPPOSITE! Ever heard of Honesty and Transparency? Or Civil SERVANTS?
The citizens of any country are the Lord/Lady of the mansion, the government is the maid/butler/cook/driver/gardener/guard, and can be easily replaced if they do not do their jobs properly.
Thanks for proving my point. There are no emails. Just an encrypted garbage file on torrents claiming it is really email, a made up power-point presentation made up by anonymous, and an unreliable media source that hasn't been confirmed. Not a shred of proof.thethingthatlurks said:Here ya go, buddy:Baldr said:
http://wikileaks.ch/IMG/pdf/WikiLeaks_Response_v6.pdf
http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201106/6785/Report-HBGary-used-as-an-object-lesson-by-Anonymous
http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201106/6804/Firm-targeting-WikiLeaks-cuts-ties-with-HBGary-apologizes-to-reporter
PS:
I still don't see how Wikileaks made the US look bad. If anything it's just shown the country isn't nearly as bad as most people thinks.
For every 1 super terrible thing they find out a thousand other things aren't really all that bad. Just kinda embarrassing really.
I'd much rather it be the US than any other nation being mocked, maybe it'll inspire the country to change
. I know overly optimistic but as a US citizen I much enjoy wikileaks. It's very interesting.
Generally speaking, if you are terrified of knowing something you've done, you shouldn't be doing what you are doing. In the cases of mass homophobia and those sorts of things the goal should not be to hide oneself but to expose all at once and show that it's not an isolated problem and that these are not broken people. In the case of corporations, there is no law that says you must hurt people to profit.
In fact it's extremely easy to make money and still be a good person.
For every 1 super terrible thing they find out a thousand other things aren't really all that bad. Just kinda embarrassing really.
I'd much rather it be the US than any other nation being mocked, maybe it'll inspire the country to change
. I know overly optimistic but as a US citizen I much enjoy wikileaks. It's very interesting.Generally speaking, if you are terrified of knowing something you've done, you shouldn't be doing what you are doing. In the cases of mass homophobia and those sorts of things the goal should not be to hide oneself but to expose all at once and show that it's not an isolated problem and that these are not broken people. In the case of corporations, there is no law that says you must hurt people to profit.
In fact it's extremely easy to make money and still be a good person.
As i said, i know very little about them. But yeah, from what iv'e seen, LULZ is as likely a cause as true intent.David_G said:
Oh man cyberpunk 2020. My fixer got his head sliced open by a ripperpunk (critical hit with implant claws) and the gm said that his onboard computer was damaged and couldnt interface his brain anymore. But I got the gm to compromise and say I could access cybertargeting on my smartgun but only if I was high on "stars" which was a street drug version of a genetic therapy that enhanced brain activity in dementia sufferers.
So basically my character became crazy crackhead who would have to find cover while in a gunfight to snort because otherwise he lost all his combat abilities. And from then on all his missions were for or against dealers so he could get more drugs.
Good times.
So basically my character became crazy crackhead who would have to find cover while in a gunfight to snort because otherwise he lost all his combat abilities. And from then on all his missions were for or against dealers so he could get more drugs.
Good times.
Yes he would and as I said before when Anon started their attacks, I would withhold judgement until I had seen what they end up doing and I think I will put my chips in with Anon. They are the Nuke the internet needed and they ARE using that power responably, not doing wildcard attacks but doing strategic attacks with clear reasons for it. They have matured and are doing a fine job of equiling the playing field.HankMan said:
AAs I said before, they woke a sleeping beast and now they get a angry Anon to deal with.
So, assuming your premise is actually true, why would...Baldr said:
"Dr. Alex Karp, the Co-Founder and CEO of Palantir Technologies, one of three data intelligence firms who worked to develop a systematic plan of attack against WikiLeaks and their supporters, has severed all ties with HBGary Federal and issued an apology to reporter Glenn Greenwald."
do that?
http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201106/6804/Firm-targeting-WikiLeaks-cuts-ties-with-HBGary-apologizes-to-reporter
Yeah, the stereotype of "anon" is usually seen as basement dwelling social outcast with disturbed mind and sick fetish. Also the public media Anonymous isnt really that big, no. They have less "members" and are more stable than the usual anon. Though their size and potential shouldnt be belittled, as that might come back and bite you in the ass.Generic Gamer said:
I could use the egypt as an example, but they really werent anonymous as they where all labelled as egyptians and that basicly cleaned off the stereotype of anonymous. But the basic idea was the same as how Anonymous operates. Post an idea on the net, get lucky ,let the movement rise and work a plan to reach your goal. The goverment was confused and went in panic as they couldnt locate the leader of this uprise or label and divide these people into sub-section as they presented people from all paths of life, religion, age, job etc. you name it.
Whoo boy... The thing about anon being everybody and "humanities darkside" is based on the fact that "they" share the same anatomy and psychology as "normal" human beings and that, that they come from all paths and steps of life with different backgrounds and upbrings. It also bases on the fact that people try to label anonymous as a person of a stereotype, and that of course is just wrong. They "study & test" human psychology thru trolling and memes as did Nazi doctors using poisons and pointy things on people during Hitler's reign. So far it seems that you shouldnt feed the trolls. Hmm..Im getting detrailed...
Anywaaayys, they represent a several large cross sections of society, that nobody wants to admit being part of.
Right in the kisser. *grins* The tide is, indeed, swinging now. I find it intriguing, however, that in both IRL/interwebz, it seems the mass populace is facing off against the big corps and governments nearly everywhere in the world now. Mmm~ the speculations. :3
Anoymous are certainly here to stay, what they did to that guy at HB Gary is nothing less than what his colleagues warned him about.
I think the internet is now allowing the money giants' corruptions to finally be exposed. Anon is a portent of a better world.