Anonymous Threatens Internet With "Operation Blackout"
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Well, the thing is they don't say 'How' they're going to do it. Which means there is nearly nothing that can be done to prevent it. For all we know, they've got vans parked across the street from each one loaded with a HERF weapon. (which would make sense given the name)Worgen said:
First, they would be shutting down the HTTP aspect of the internet, there's more to it than just the websites most people are familiar with see. If they are tech savy enough to do what they say they will, they will know how to communicate through the other channels.TitanAura said:
Second, the date is right there March 31, the time is up in the air, but that's just because they don't know how long they would be able to make it last.
Third, they don't cease to exist without the internet, I might just have misunderstood that part, but they're not shutting themselves down, they've shutting off the most popular part of the internet.
weirdguy said:
Simply entering IP addresses may work for some websites, but will not work for all. Many websites do not have a dedicated IP to call their own. Instead, they share that IP with other sites--or even subdomains of the same site. In this case, entering the IP address will either get you an error or a generic page that is none of these sites, or forwarded to whatever is the default site on that server.Kapol said:
Besides, you gonna remember to go note down the IPs of all the sites you visit? ;p
There is however a way ISPs could make such a short attack meaningless: increase the cache and TTL values on their own DNS, so that they don't have to go to the root servers.
You too can run your own DNS server, or just a plain DNS cache. Look up TreeWalk or AnalogX FastCache for Windows. If you run linux, you probably already know what to look up.
How I believe this is gonna go down:
*Anonymous Member X and his group of hackers has succeeded in taking down the internet. Cue Musical Number*
Anonymous Member X: *typing* We've done it! We've taken down the internet!...
*Anonymous Member X is now confused*
Anonymous Member X: Weird...the chat doesn't seem to be working. I'll try to refresh the page to see if that'll work...
*Anonymous Member X refreshes the page to get an error. He now sees what he has done*
Anonymous Member X: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
~FIN~
Captcha: The all-new Chevy Sonic
Apparently the captcha won't accept "The all-new Chevy Shitbox". I think mods need to fix this.
*Anonymous Member X and his group of hackers has succeeded in taking down the internet. Cue Musical Number*
Anonymous Member X: *typing* We've done it! We've taken down the internet!...
*Anonymous Member X is now confused*
Anonymous Member X: Weird...the chat doesn't seem to be working. I'll try to refresh the page to see if that'll work...
*Anonymous Member X refreshes the page to get an error. He now sees what he has done*
Anonymous Member X: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
~FIN~
Captcha: The all-new Chevy Sonic
Apparently the captcha won't accept "The all-new Chevy Shitbox". I think mods need to fix this.
And the people of Anonymous shoot themselves in the foot AGAIN, because quite frankly this doesn't spread a message; quite the opposite - it stems the flow of information, and people will not know what the fuss is about unless the news tells them.
Funny, I read something when SOPA was still kicking about about anonymous doing exactly this. And they didn't do it. So I'm calling BS on this.
Right, I was actually looking into that and just found the fact IP addresses are often shared out. But I was actually looking into finding out all the IPs of websites I would want to visit, just in case, when I found that out. I'm actually studying CNS right now, but most of what I'm doing is with setting up the routers and routes, not dealing with the DNS quite yet.evilneko said:weirdguy said:Simply entering IP addresses may work for some websites, but will not work for all. Many websites do not have a dedicated IP to call their own. Instead, they share that IP with other sites--or even subdomains of the same site. In this case, entering the IP address will either get you an error or a generic page that is none of these sites, or forwarded to whatever is the default site on that server.Kapol said:
Besides, you gonna remember to go note down the IPs of all the sites you visit? ;p
There is however a way ISPs could make such a short attack meaningless: increase the cache and TTL values on their own DNS, so that they don't have to go to the root servers.
You too can run your own DNS server, or just a plain DNS cache. Look up TreeWalk or AnalogX FastCache for Windows. If you run linux, you probably already know what to look up.
But the ISP thing is if they take the attack seriously. Which, given the situation is a bit iffy to begin, I doubt many will do. Might have to look into the running my own DNS server just a precaution though.
Bob_F_It said:
EVERYTHING WE DO MAKES OUR POTENTIAL SUPPORTERS HATE US!
WHAT DO WE DO?
DO IT SOME MORE! MAYBE THEY'LL CHANGE THEIR MINDS!!!
dumbasses.
Didn't this already get denied on Twitter and Facebook by Anonymous? Coulda sworn this first came out last month or so, and they already said it's just some fuckwit using the name Anonymous to get more attention.
How does this punish the people they are complaining about exactly? I don't think the world leaders spend their weekends playing Starcraft online. Pretty sure big bankers don't spend it making youtube comments too.
So let me get this straight.
Anonymous have been saying that the internet represents their ideals like freedom of speech and whatnot, and this is also the same group that (along with many other groups and websites) opposed SOPA and PIPA because the bills could potentially destroy the internet.
And now they are going to do the one thing that they have protested against?
You see, this is what I'm talking about. Anonymous have degraded themselves so much because of stupid things like this. They don't care about the people anymore, and quite frankly, I'm not so sure they ever have cared.
Anonymous, please. Stop, just stop. The people have had enough. You just don't represent the people anymore and you're nothing but a complete and utter joke.
Sorry for this rant, but they are just getting on my nerves now.
Note: I'm aware they have said that they are not going to "destroy" or "kill" the internet, but that still doesn't change my opinion of them.
Anonymous have been saying that the internet represents their ideals like freedom of speech and whatnot, and this is also the same group that (along with many other groups and websites) opposed SOPA and PIPA because the bills could potentially destroy the internet.
And now they are going to do the one thing that they have protested against?
You see, this is what I'm talking about. Anonymous have degraded themselves so much because of stupid things like this. They don't care about the people anymore, and quite frankly, I'm not so sure they ever have cared.
Anonymous, please. Stop, just stop. The people have had enough. You just don't represent the people anymore and you're nothing but a complete and utter joke.
Sorry for this rant, but they are just getting on my nerves now.
Note: I'm aware they have said that they are not going to "destroy" or "kill" the internet, but that still doesn't change my opinion of them.
I'd be really interested to see if this will work. The premise seems simple, but I imagine pulling it off isn't.
They shut down the entire internet, we will have Anarchy. Also....Never mind, I was going to say I have no porn but then I realized I have a USB for taht.
Im not too bothered by this, even if they do manage to take down the root DNS servers, many of the websites we visit will still be visit-able. In fact if youve visited the site previously, its likely that your browser has stored that address and IP address in a cache, this to save having to constantly query DNS servers. If by chance you visit a website you have never been to before it is probably cached on your ISP's DNS servers, if not then you probably wont be able to view it.
Bottom line, dont panic it probably wont effect us too badly.
Bottom line, dont panic it probably wont effect us too badly.
Not Anonymous.
Shutting down an entire form of infrastructure? Come on, they already stated they're not doing that after the NSA claimed they were going to bring down power grids. It's just an attempt to smear Anonymous, to give authorities a better excuse to hunt down the members of Anonymous (which of course is impossible considering the nature of Anonymous) and nothing else.
Or it could just be some wannabee idiot.
Shutting down an entire form of infrastructure? Come on, they already stated they're not doing that after the NSA claimed they were going to bring down power grids. It's just an attempt to smear Anonymous, to give authorities a better excuse to hunt down the members of Anonymous (which of course is impossible considering the nature of Anonymous) and nothing else.
Or it could just be some wannabee idiot.
Yeah, it did, and was originally put forward by the NSA, not anonymous, but I'm dying to see if someone does it anyway.wintercoat said:
100% this. If (and I doubt they will anyway) do this, it will just provide as much ammo as angry middle-aged politicians need to ensure that the internet turns into some police enforced hell-hole. They seem to forgot that if it was Al-Queda or Iran threatening to do this, people WOULD be calling it terrorism, yet they want us to label them as crusaders for internet freedom.Bobic said:
How is this going to get them support, and hurt the "bankers" (or whatever "evil" they claim to b after)? Oh, it's to demonstrate how the world would be without the internet? I thought we did that in a nice, free, legit way just a month ago?