Another Final Fantasy XIV Could Destroy Square Enix
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Didnt their shareholders force them to launch before the designers were happy in the first place? If so well hopefully that has taught them to shut the hell up, I really dont think this game will be a success for them MMOS have changed subscription based gameplay is on the decline and dont you need a pretty powerful PC to run this anyway? at the very least you need a more powerful one that most other MMOS which will only lower its market further surely most of the FF fans are on console yes there may be a crossover and FFXI seemed to do alrite for them but its another market now their reputation isnt what it was when FFXI launched.
I dread to think how much they have spent on this game but surely they could have remade VII for at least the same amount of money if not considerably less and had a guaranteed fan base and gather some serious hype (although if they fucked it up there would be no saving them), this game is now old sure its new but its still old things move fast in the world of videogames and this one has a bad reputation to overcome thats if sufficient people are still interested anyway. As it stands I see very little people caring about this game and I really cant see it being a success if they are lucky it will not be a complete failure.
I could be wrong ofc but I wonder what would happen if the company did go under surely someone else would buy up the rights to FF and DQ they would be nuts not to or those that have the rights could start again with a new studio which maybe for the best but then again I have enjoyed a lot of the FF games IV,VI,VII and X are my personal faves but with the exception of II they have all been enjoyable and I like how they keep changing it not sticking to a tried formula even if it worked really well unlike say DQ especially as so few publishers take risks these days. Yes I want them to remake VII but I also want them to continue developing the FF franchise even though its always been a bit hit and miss.
If it does kill them they only have their self to blame though why make such a high risk project that you dont know if a market still exists for? If you are going to spend potentially company destroying amounts of money on a project its best to make sure theres a serious potential market for it and it is widely accessible i.e on all platforms not just High to Medium high end PCs.
I dread to think how much they have spent on this game but surely they could have remade VII for at least the same amount of money if not considerably less and had a guaranteed fan base and gather some serious hype (although if they fucked it up there would be no saving them), this game is now old sure its new but its still old things move fast in the world of videogames and this one has a bad reputation to overcome thats if sufficient people are still interested anyway. As it stands I see very little people caring about this game and I really cant see it being a success if they are lucky it will not be a complete failure.
I could be wrong ofc but I wonder what would happen if the company did go under surely someone else would buy up the rights to FF and DQ they would be nuts not to or those that have the rights could start again with a new studio which maybe for the best but then again I have enjoyed a lot of the FF games IV,VI,VII and X are my personal faves but with the exception of II they have all been enjoyable and I like how they keep changing it not sticking to a tried formula even if it worked really well unlike say DQ especially as so few publishers take risks these days. Yes I want them to remake VII but I also want them to continue developing the FF franchise even though its always been a bit hit and miss.
If it does kill them they only have their self to blame though why make such a high risk project that you dont know if a market still exists for? If you are going to spend potentially company destroying amounts of money on a project its best to make sure theres a serious potential market for it and it is widely accessible i.e on all platforms not just High to Medium high end PCs.
Final this, Fantasy that, blablabla
Am I'm the only one who remembers that Square Enix released DeusEx:HR
And the game was awesome
I know that they didn't developed it, but didn't they got a hint to try and work on other title?
Because at this point they looks like FFF* to me
*Final Fantasy Factory
Am I'm the only one who remembers that Square Enix released DeusEx:HR
And the game was awesome
I know that they didn't developed it, but didn't they got a hint to try and work on other title?
Because at this point they looks like FFF* to me
*Final Fantasy Factory
Well said.Comic Sans said:
There will never be another true Final Fantasy because everybody who used to work on the series, everybody who ever made it what it was, is gone. While this may just as easily be said of most other famous Square/Enix franchises at this point, a new instalment in any of THOSE would still be a sensation in and of itself. Even if it should turn out to be crap, it would almost certainly sell more than well enough to keep the company afloat for a good while yet.
I think SE's biggest mistake right now is that they inexplicably insist on flogging the WRONG dead horse.
May I add that SquareEnix also published Sleeping Dogs, which was fucking brilliant?blackrave said:
What is it with all these dragons destroying all these worlds?! Fuck dragons!
WoW+DaoC+Diablo+FF sounds all good to me. I'm hoping this is where Squenix redeems itself. Also, if they do this right, the japanese playerbase alone will probably keep it afloat even if WoW destroys it in the west.
WoW+DaoC+Diablo+FF sounds all good to me. I'm hoping this is where Squenix redeems itself. Also, if they do this right, the japanese playerbase alone will probably keep it afloat even if WoW destroys it in the west.
World of Warcraft? Diablo? Ultima? Dark Age of Camelot?
Is this the part where they throw all semblance of originality out the window in favour of a broader audience?
Is this the part where they throw all semblance of originality out the window in favour of a broader audience?
If they would just make a better, fancier more inclusive FFXI I'd be over the moon with joy. This WoW talk is deeply concerning to me...The LAST thing we need is another WoW clone repackaged as Final Fantasy. Not only that, just mentioning in that interview that they were using WoW as an inspiration will probably cause anyone who reads it to compare it to WoW, and that is not a good thing.
Oh my jeebuz, Squeenix! We all know what you need to do: KH3, TWETY2, Versus 13, FF7 HD Remake...
It's the same thing every time! Gawd!
It's the same thing every time! Gawd!
FFVII would be nigh impossible to translate to a modern game, at most they could maybe gussy it up a bit, but doing a full out remake like that tech demo cutscene isn't going to happen.
TWEWY doesn't have that big of a following, sure it is a cult hit, and has lots of vocal fans, but it's not going to be enough to save them.
KH3, alright this is probably the one big ace up their sleeve right now, and I'm sure they're hard at work on it, but at this point it's been so long that it needs to be perfect. They will take their time with this.
FFXI, lots of people dismissing this game in this thread, but actually it is Square-Enix's most profitable game EVER, and surely that is the driving motivation behind them wanting to make XIV work.
Personally though, I would love for them to revisit old SNES Enix titles, such as Actraiser or E.V.O, but again these are pretty niche titles that would be very hard to pull off as modern games.
So actually it seems like FFXIV might be a good thing for them to focus on for now.
TWEWY doesn't have that big of a following, sure it is a cult hit, and has lots of vocal fans, but it's not going to be enough to save them.
KH3, alright this is probably the one big ace up their sleeve right now, and I'm sure they're hard at work on it, but at this point it's been so long that it needs to be perfect. They will take their time with this.
FFXI, lots of people dismissing this game in this thread, but actually it is Square-Enix's most profitable game EVER, and surely that is the driving motivation behind them wanting to make XIV work.
Personally though, I would love for them to revisit old SNES Enix titles, such as Actraiser or E.V.O, but again these are pretty niche titles that would be very hard to pull off as modern games.
So actually it seems like FFXIV might be a good thing for them to focus on for now.
I their they'd be best to revisit some of their older IPs and maybe even make a new one, but do them on smaller budgets. The problem with modern games is that they waste so much money when an equal (or arguably better) game can be made cheaper, as the cost is lower they can try new stuff. And cheaper budget doesn't mean low quality, just not wasting it where its not needed.tselski said:
Yeah, that's a good idea actually. It would be cool if they did some new 16-bit styled games, like how Capcom made those retro Megaman games, they did that FF4 sequel a while back that had SNES styled graphics, I'm surprised that didn't catch on more. Or even just smaller downloadable games (maybe even episodic games) to tide people over between their big releases.RicoADF said:
How is a 'solid free to play model' going to be any more successful in ensuring the games long term success? And more importantly, how is a 'solid free to play model' going to make enough money for Square Enix to survive as a company long term?Falterfire said:
Well, it's simply a matter of competition. If Square Enix tries to make it a subscription MMO they're directly competing with WoW and that's not a fight they're likely to win. Subscription based MMOs in general are pretty much financial suicide these days, and fantasy subscription MMOs especially.Space Jawa said:
Free to Play means a different set of competition and also means it'll be much easier to immediately grab people. That's important on a game that previously had a poor launch and is unlikely to have an immediate buyin from a lot of people.