This is just about the worst semantic sophistry to pollute the forum in ages. Of course Antifa is a group.
Yes shame modern AntiFA isn't fighting Nazis for the most part and instead just labelling people Nazis for various reasons now for the most part and attacking them for it. As shown in said videos.
Yet some of those they've gone after and tried to shut down speeches have been people advocating people speaking. They targeted and even where Daryl Davis was a speaker. The guy whose has convinced 200+ people to leave the KKK just by talking with them. That's some-one they claimed was defending White Supremacists because he advocates not trying to stomp them to death but to prove their beliefs wrong and turn them away from said groups. With AntiFA it's about fighting a perceived enemy not actual change.
Good so we're now deciding it is a group. Thus can be classified as such. Thus people can argue what it says isn't how it acts. You know like how the US National Centre for Sexual Exploitation doesn't actually fight real sexual exploitation and is just a moral censorship group renamed who want to push puritan values into entertainment?
As far as I'm aware, no-one but you thought it wasn't, so don't put that on us.
Do you genuinely not understand what Antifa is, or are you deliberately wasting everyone's time with bullshit for the sake of it?
No prob. If anything it's a good thing to not fit the stereotype of a Bernie supporter lol. It's not a very flattering one. You can agree with people's economic policy and disagree with their social policy. If you simply value economic policy way more than social issues that makes you their supporter but not their acolyte. People tend to treat parties and their representatives like a cult that you must follow all the teachings of to be a member of it. Too many people treat politics like something you "join" and "belong to" when it in fact is something you pick what you want from and go with what has more of what you like. I don't need to agree with everything a politician thinks, I just need to agree with their approach on the issues I deem as important. If anything, it is the establishment of the left that is the worst about being virtue signaling SJWs with no substance, Bernie's message was mainly what I care about, economic issues, that he got smeared as having the SJW side on his back by the people who will jump at those types of people as long as they protect the status quo was a travesty.
As long as there's no violence and there's someone protecting our current laws, and maintains them, which I support, all you have is an empty threat, which we should be able to live with. If you put up obstacles to people expressing that empty threat it will turn some of them more radical than they would otherwise have been, and give them a valid complaint about their freedoms being taken away, which will spread their message further than it would have otherwise gone.
Yo fam, I'm gonna tell ya cuz you're my third favorite poster: this is literally the same thread that has happened upteen times this year and the years previous, every time an outlier happens at one of these protests one side of these forums lines up for or against the agent provocateur, and the other side takes the other position, and the exact same mental gymnastics happens for all involved, us included. Go post about videogames or something instead, you'll be much more satisfied than this continued staring into the abyss.
It never fails: even outside the pedo threads, the nonces out themselves.
Please, tell me more about how this can't happen here and would be illegal:
theconversation.com
www.cnn.com
www.theguardian.com
It's simple, isn't it? The fascists are the people who think political violence is okay to achieve political goals...
Lol sure sure. Funny how quickly people forget.
Oh I do.
I'm sorry what kind of weird ass projection is this? I'm not even going to dignify this utter bovine excrement you're throwing about with more of a response other than this.
We now know that eugenics is wrong. It's like with blood-letting, when you work with complex issues like medicine, you're bound to get it wrong. It's not wrong for leaders to act based on what they at the time believe to be credible information, even if that thing happens to be cutting off the skin off of newborn penises for magic reasons. As long as people legit think that's the way to go to advance their civilization, it is not them being fascist but just catastrophically ignorant when they do this sort of stuff.Please, tell me more about how this can't happen here and would be illegal:
"In many cases, perpetrators can move quickly from rhetoric to violence, Wray said."
But what we cannot do is prevent the spread of said rhetoric in anyway, violently or non-violently, because rights.
Because that makes us just as bad, apparently
Just let the nazis have their rallies, recruit with no pushback, march through neighborhoods full of people they want to abuse and intimidate, and trust the police to go after any fas that crosses the li--
OhThe FBI warned for years that police are cozy with the far right. Is no one listening? | Mike German
I was an FBI agent who infiltrated white supremacists. Too many local police don’t take the far right seriously – or actively sympathize
"Group" is an imprecise term. "People over 60 years old" is a group, but they don't have a unified organisation, structure, official membership scheme or speak with a common voice. The Democratic Party is a group, and mostly has an organised structure, membership scheme and mostly common voice. The FBI is a group, and is very heavily structured, with very clear identification of membership and a very unified voice.
Always assume the latter. You'll be proven right more often than not.
Are those leaders responsible or not for the damage caused by their policies that they based on incorrect information?
How charmingly naive. The FBI is subject to many of the same biases as the local pigs. And in fact the right wing has been actively interfering with the bureau's ability to do its job by defunding all the departments monitoring right wing radicals, white supremacists, anti-government militia groups, etc. And that's to say nothing of the number of mass shootings we have in this country and how many are politically motivated that the FBI wasn't able to stop.
Being corrupt does. Which the pigs most assuredly are. When one of their own murders a fellow cop by shooting through his door hoping to hit a protester after his boss specifically told him that is illegal, the FOP came to his defense. There has never been a crooked cop that the FOP did not defend.
So how without organisational structure of any kind are Riot Kitchen able to get supplies, produce things and then organise where to deliver the things to and who to deliver them to?
If you listen to your doctor when you're not yourself a doctor and have no idea either way about something, you're not responsible for whatever ill follows, the doctor is.
Not having a formal organisational structure is not the same as not having any organisation.
