Apple Disses DS and PSP at iPod Event

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Commander Breetai said:
Apple? That would be the company who put out a computer whose games were 1-2 years behind PC, right?
Yeah, they're the ones who made the music program that crashes every time you import a CD!
 

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Not up to the IPhone? Laff.

As if, it has absolutely fuck all games that match up to either competitor. Go get some half decent titles THEN talk smack. Until then piss off and work on something over than flaunting an overpriced gimmick.
 

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I love it when LOLMac gamers who 'hate' Microsoft still believe they're truly using a Mac whilst running bootcamp and not an overpriced PC with an extra chip or two.
 

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Uhm?... What's up with all the hate for Apple?

DId you expect them to go up and say "It sucks moneky balls"?

Jesus, think god dammit.
 

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Commander Breetai said:
Shycte said:
Uhm?... What's up with all the hate for Apple?

DId you expect them to go up and say "It sucks moneky balls"?

Jesus, think god dammit.
Because this is the equivalent of a stick-boned nerd going up to the strongest guy in the school and saying 'My Dad can beat the shit out of your Dad'.

Jesus, think god dammit.
No, because this is not about anything else then money.

It isn't like Factor 5 went out and said: L.A.I.R will suck. They said that it would kick ass, but it ended up sucking.

This is the same, and it's called promoting your product and it's a quite good thing to do if you want to sell anything.
 

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in about 3-4 years we will see a proper gaming console by apple and not a little hand held one hehe

eeee dear, here comes another company in the gaming world
 

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But to actually contribute to the discussion... What the hell Apple? Yes you want money but my god, you can't just say stuff like that with no solid reasoning. Hell I'm pretty good at writing but I don't go around proclaiming I'm better than Stephen King ¬¬
 

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I hate gaming on my Touch, the only good game is Labyrinth. I by far prefer my PSP and DS. Nevermind, Apple have always been big headed.
 

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Shycte said:
Commander Breetai said:
Shycte said:
Uhm?... What's up with all the hate for Apple?

DId you expect them to go up and say "It sucks moneky balls"?

Jesus, think god dammit.
Because this is the equivalent of a stick-boned nerd going up to the strongest guy in the school and saying 'My Dad can beat the shit out of your Dad'.

Jesus, think god dammit.
No, because this is not about anything else then money.

It isn't like Factor 5 went out and said: L.A.I.R will suck. They said that it would kick ass, but it ended up sucking.

This is the same, and it's called promoting your product and it's a quite good thing to do if you want to sell anything.
Promoting your product is fine, but if you pull bullshit in your promotions you can expect to be called out on them, whether it's emphasising that the iPhone has 21,000+ games shovelware or that the PSP and DS lack pointless and sometimes damaging to the experience gimmicks.
 

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Amnestic said:
Shycte said:
Promoting your product is fine, but if you pull bullshit in your promotions you can expect to be called out on them, whether it's emphasising that the iPhone has 21,000+ games shovelware or that the PSP and DS lack pointless and sometimes damaging to the experience gimmicks.
If the lie, people will call them out on it. And so it should be.

But calling other consoles "bad" or "to diss" them is a kind of promotion really. If I say that PSP sucks monkey balls, that's my opinion, not a lie.

It's the same here, but they are using their opinion to promote their product.
 

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Shycte said:
Amnestic said:
Shycte said:
Promoting your product is fine, but if you pull bullshit in your promotions you can expect to be called out on them, whether it's emphasising that the iPhone has 21,000+ games shovelware or that the PSP and DS lack pointless and sometimes damaging to the experience gimmicks.
If the lie, people will call them out on it. And so it should be.

But calling other consoles "bad" or "to diss" them is a kind of promotion really. If I say that PSP sucks monkey balls, that's my opinion, not a lie.

It's the same here, but they are using their opinion to promote their product.
No, if you say the psp sucks balls then its a lie and an opinion. Every one here that's hating on apple is doing so because we as gamers, don't like it when someone disses our systems. Its like the console wars. All the consols degraded and insulted each other for the sake of "promotion" but it doesn't change the fact that it was basically a flame war. Now that that's over with and we have relative peace on the market, apple just comes on and says "fuck you, we're better" without legitimate anyway to back itself up. So if someone tells me "fuck you", even if it's only for promotion, I'm gonna punch em in the face.
 

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I can't wait until the "I'm an iPhone and I'm a PSP and I'm a DS" ads start. Seriously Apple, I know you think you're pretty shit-hot being a monopoly that nobody worries about, but you guys aren't capable of taking on either of them in the handheld market. You're going up against a company that has steamrolled the competition for almost 2 decades and the only company to ever legitimately stand against them in that time. And what do you have? A touchscreen-only interface and an oversaturated game library that's of dubious quality. Oh, and your console costs as much as a PS3 or 360.
Pretty much what I was gonna say. The iPhone itself is way too expensive, and the library of games they're talking about are mostly flash games, and people could just play almost the same thing on miniclip.com or something. I'd rather buy a game like Advance Wars... I still have yet to finish that game to my unreasonably high standards. And I got it with my DS, back when it first came out.
 

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Shycte said:
If the lie, people will call them out on it. And so it should be.

But calling other consoles "bad" or "to diss" them is a kind of promotion really. If I say that PSP sucks monkey balls, that's my opinion, not a lie.

It's the same here, but they are using their opinion to promote their product.
Opinions need to be based on something. You need to say why you believe the PSP sucks monkey balls. Apple outlined two major arguments. First:

"No Multi-Touch user interface. Games are expensive. No App Store. No iPod."
Gimmick, debatable, unnecessary gimmick, unnecessary gimmick in that order. Anyone can tell you how awkward the multi-touch UI is for the iPhone as a gaming tool. Games being expensive, again, debatable. In respect to the glorified flash games? Yes, quite so. But I saw a copy of Elite Beat Agents for a fiver in my GAME store recently. Expensive indeed.

App store? What do I want apps for? I want to game. That's why I bought a gaming console. Same for the iPod. And - last I checked - doesn't the PSP have a music player on it?

Second argument:

a chart showing how the iPhone's 21,1878 available games trumps the 3,680 on DS and 607 on PSP.
But gamers don't care about quantity. We want quality. We want the Crisis Core's, the Phoenix Wright's, the Professor Layton's, the Final Fantasy Tactics' games. Not Johnny-come-indie-developer #4738768123 making his twentieth bejewelled clone.

Not to say all iPhone games are terrible, just that in terms of quality gaming experience, almost universal consensus is that the iPhone - by the criterium Apple themselves put forth - is not as good a gaming device as the PSP or the DS.

It's semi-clever marketing, but most gamers should note that only one of the points Apple made is actually relevant to the quality of the gaming experience, that being the multi-touch user interface which the PSP lacks. DS lacks it too, though they do have the touch screen of course.

Which is all well and good, but it's a terrible gaming interface. Annoying to use, impossible to make for advanced gaming controls. Imagine, for a moment, trying to play Grand Theft Auto on your iPhone, just as you played GTA: Liberty City Stories on your PSP. You see?

TL;DR - Apple's 'disses' may have been opinion, but the facts they used to back them up are faulty at best and outright irrelevant at worst.
 

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Earthworm Jim! NANANANANANA!

...I'm sorry. I don't know what came over me...



You know, with all Steve's hubris, people might start to hate him so much that somebody might actually buy a PSP...