Apple Voted Largest Influence On Gaming Industry

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mjc0961

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"According to a survey distributed to 1,000 videogame industry professionals"

Well that alone makes it complete bullshit anyway. Not that we didn't already know that this is complete bullshit. First of all, these "industry professionals" clearly aren't very professional at all. I don't know if they're just idiots or if they've just got Apple and Steve Jobs on the brain due to him having just passed away, but either way, completely unprofessional. The fact that Miyamoto didn't even get into the double digits says it at all, and even though Gabe Newell did, only 16%? Need I say more on that?

And a survey of just 1,000 people? Like every other survey, the sample size is far too small for these results to actually have any significant value to anything in life. This garbage is not going to make my change my thoughts on cell phone gaming being just another fad for the casuals that took the place of Facebook gaming (which took the place of their Wiis which is why Nintendo has to crawl back to core gamers) and will have its place taken by something else in a year or two. 1,000 people who clearly can't think objectively and would rather give sympathy votes to the recently deceased than people who actually did great things for the industry aren't going to change my thoughts at all.

You know, I'd really hate to see the results of such a poll if they conducted it after someone like Tim Langdell died.

L10nH3ArT said:
Well the article forgets to add in the fact that the survey was given at a convention that mostly focuses on handheld technology such as android, iproducts and the like.

Add in that fact and it kinda makes this a no brainer.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/benzingainsights/2011/11/02/steve-jobs-voted-most-influential-man-in-video-games-igniting-a-firestorm-of-complaints/
It makes it a no brainer that they're still completely wrong. The only thing that this changes is that they're clearly biased and purposefully misleading. Gather up a room full of people who are clearly NOT industry professionals at all, get them to say that Apple and Steve Jobs, the creators of the only platform that will let them charge money for their games that should be free on Newgrounds, are the most influential to them (who else are they going to pick?), and then proclaim to the world "GAMING INDUSTRY PROFESSIONALS DECLARE APPLE THE LARGEST INFLUENCE ON THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY".

Hats off to Forbes for showing this survey and declaration for what it really is: complete garbage.
 

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So 1000 professionals voted in this survey...was this survey only for investors who pretend to know anything about the industry and then voted for the corporation who is the most successful in milking their customers (e.g. every new iphone generates roughly more than double of its costs as profit)?
 

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I'm sorry but how has Steve Jobs been more influential than Shigeru Miyamoto. Miyamoto saved video gaming after the crash. Without him the I-phone wouldn't have games on it in the first place.
 

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I don't have a HUGE problem with saying the iPhone has shaped the industry more than the Xbox or PS3 or whatever. Maybe the Wii, but I could definitely let it slide. But saying that Jobs has had more influence than Miyamoto? Or Newell?

There's a word for this: wrong.
 

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had the guy and his iphone impact on the industry? well yeah, but only in recent years and still not that much compared to nintendo, sony or miccrosft. heck, i would even say that sega had more impact on the game industry.
 

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L10nH3ArT said:
Well the article forgets to add in the fact that the survey was given at a convention that mostly focuses on handheld technology such as android, iproducts and the like.

Add in that fact and it kinda makes this a no brainer.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/benzingainsights/2011/11/02/steve-jobs-voted-most-influential-man-in-video-games-igniting-a-firestorm-of-complaints/
Ah that makes sense. They were all probably drunk and so rather than having actual thoughts and opinions they just went with whatever they were doing at the time. Most influental man? I'm using an iphone - it's steve jobs!!! I'm updating facebook - it's zuckerberg!!! Most influential hardware - etc etc.
 

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What the iPhone did to indie games and the gaming industry was huge and, probably, the biggest change to gaming in 2 decades or so. But the biggest influence ever? I think the very first computer game coders and the NES (and perhaps even the pioneers of 3D games) would like to have a word with you.
 

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You know, this immediately reminds me of a show I saw a while back of the "Top 100 Inventions that changed the world." Topping the list was the iPhone, which baffled me, because the Internet, Computer, Cellular Phone, and MP3 Player were all anywhere from 10-50 spots BELOW this singular culmination of the above. It actually pissed me off a bit, because their logic was "this list is based off items which, without them, your life would not function (as well)" and all I could think of is "If you don't have Internet, the iPhone is worthless, and if not for all the innovations of computers and information technology, the iPhone wouldn't exist. And who the hell could live without Light Bulbs (somewhere in the middle of the list) but wouldn't be able to function without their damn iPhone???"

Honestly, fine, if we're talking strictly about the present industry, then yes, I suppose the iPhone with its near monopoly over the casual market is becoming a force to be reckoned with. But seriously, to just ignore all of Nintendo's achievements, namely being the original driving force of POPULARIZING video games, not to mention the achievements of several other companies and individuals to help make video games as mainstream as they are, is so sickeningly perverse that I want to find the supposed 1000 "video game industry professionals" and force them at gunpoint to revoke all privileges of working in this industry.
 

Imperioratorex Caprae

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Survey skewed due to recent death of Steve Jobs. I can't honestly think of a game that was produced solely due to, by, or in connection with Apple that changed the face of gaming in any significant way.
 

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iPhone for top 5 all-time? Most iPhone games are glorified browser games, and Apple doesn't even make most of the games. With that, how does Steve Jobs even make the poll?

As far as someone with the most influence over gaming ever, there's not even competition. Shigeru Miyamoto all the way.

What "industry professionals" did the voting anyway? Was it mostly people who started playing games because of their phone and had no other contact with games before?

Edit: I just looked back at the link of the second page. Dumb, biased survey is dumb and biased.
 

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I think people are confusing those silly iPhone games to real games on the console and pc.Now say what you will,A game is a game no matter the platform but true video games are on consoles and Pc(arcade to I guess).Now if their is ever a legit Angry Birds gaming tournament like there is with Starcraft then an only then will I accept iPhone games as serious games worth playing.Until then they are just a cheap way to waste time on the bus or wile taking a shit.
 

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so let me guess because the douchbag died recently they all wana give him praise for shit he didnt do?

Fuck the people who made this.
 
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This has to be a joke? Right...right? Seriously, no. Just no. The man did some influential things in his lifetime, but the biggest gaming influence? That's just laughable.
 

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This survey really means nothing. It was completely unfocused and open ended. Secondly it is news biased. That is what has happened recently/talked about carries more weight.

That said the iphone being on the top spot does make some sense. The advent of portable cheap games like Angry Birds and just the massive library its capable of holding changed portable gaming completely. Of course there are other devices that happened around the same time and do similar things, but the iphone is the most well known.

Steve Jobs #1 on the most influential people (or even on it) doesn't sit well with me. He didn't do much if anything for gaming himself. His focus was also never on gaming. The iphone sort of snowballed into the roll based on the app market. He himself didn't actually do much except be the CEO of the company that sold the iphone.

Long story short: The iphone actually deserves a spot/mention in the top 5 (perhaps not #1). To be fair I would say smartphones rather than just the iphone as they all did/do the same thing. The iphone just so happened to be very popular in its advent. Steve Jobs did nothing for gaming himself, and thus deserves no mention.
 

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They really need to re-run this survey once the apple sympathy crap goes away. I mean, if anything, if you're talking about OS development companies, Bill Gates did far more than Apple ever did for the gaming industry. Hell, Linux even has a stronger user base than iOS.

They seriously voted the guy that wouldn't even allow flash on a damn phone as influential in gaming? Yeah maybe because he forced developers to find workarounds to their overly limiting restrictions in the name of protecting corporate profits.
 

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AmrasCalmacil said:
This... Pardon?
What the hell did this survey look like?

How has Steve Jobs done more than Shigeru Miyamoto?
How has he done more than Gaben?
Robert Ewing said:
Erm, I don't know about you guys, but when I think of gamings biggest triumphs, I don't think of Steve Jobs or apple...

I think of Steam, and Gabe Newell... I think of Sony and Microsoft, Nintendo, Sega, all that jazz. NOWHERE on that list would I have ever in a million years thought Apple...

Sucking up to his death a bit?
Of coarse you don't think of apple, remember there console?



Yeah...

They did nothing. yes, they created a platform that makes it easy to copy/paste flashgames, but that's it.
I seriously take offense to this.

No one who has made a game on the Iphone really poured their heart and soul into it, no one. Jobs didn't even make games, he made a computer, and then oversaw a bunch of other people.

And yes, these guys must be major suckups.
 

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unacomn said:
"has shaped videogames more than any other device or console,"
I believe that honor goes to the Xbox 360, since just about every multiplatform PC game for the past 6 years has been a crappy 360 port.

And as for the people poll. Steve Jobs hated games. He went on an hour long tirade with Ron Gilbert, telling him that you can't tell a story in a game.
Where's Sid Meier in that poll, heck, where's Garriot or Peter Molyneux?

This poll is rigged, rigged I tell you!
I'm sorry, fact check. Especially lending to how games are made, most 360 games are PC ports. Games for Windows. The rest of your post is spot on.