Are teachers allowed to kick you out of the classroom for looking at your phone?

[Shivarage]

What if there is a family emergency? you can't just ignore something like that...
What if Grasshoppers had machineguns?

My point being, just because you can 'what if' about possibilities doesn't mean that anything is okay because of an off chance situation occurring.

Catchpaersons xistup

Life is precious in my opinion, I wouldn't want to miss something important just because a Curmudgeonly Crab doesn't particularly like phones

 

[RaikuFA]

uh, she can throw his ass out for wearing a shirt with a color she dislikes and you cant do anything about it, hes already paid for classes, shes been paid, she can refuse to teach for the semester and its perfectlly legal

You're joking, right? Because that isn't true in the slightest. See, teaching at a university is a job, as you've apparently forgotten. Professors have department requirements to fulfill, and especially if they're not tenured, they can get canned just like any other sub-par worker.

thats how college works, give them money, hope you get accepted and pray your teacher actually teaches

Again, no, not in the slightest. And if this is genuinely what you believe, I don't think you've ever even met someone who went to college, much less been to one yourself.

exacly, if theyre tenured they can abuse their power, you see, teachers are nothing more than idiots who'll turn the other way at beatings, take their students money themselves saying its extra tuition and can get away with it because theyre professers, they can do whatever they want. i never went to college, i dont need to, i dont need to be around more people who are just going to treat me like crap after ive paid them to do their job

 

[Maniac536]

This is unfortunatly what happens when you have tenure. But no, she is within her right to do so, shut your phone off before class starts or drop her class. You can report her to her superiors but they will do nothing except maybe talk to her about it.

 

[joshthor]

teachers crazy, but its college. they can do what they want for the most part. you can bring it up to your adviser or something, but there isnt much you can do. at least at all the colleges i have been to, they make you sign a syllabus outlining phone policies and such and almost all of them say no phones. its her perrogative. it sucks, but there isnt much you can do.

 

[Belated]

I am a college student, and I have a teacher who is hard core against cell phones in the class. (that and she just acts like all the students are children) When ever someone's phone goes off in their back pack, she writes their name down and when the next test comes around she subtracts points from them.

The other day my phone was on vibrate so she couldn't hear it, but it just kept going off so I took it out to shut it off. She caught me and asked what I was hiding, and told me to show the class. I put up no resistance and gave her no trouble, I just said "my phone was going off so I was shutting it off" and showed that it was indeed my phone. She then pointed to the door and said "good bye" I was baffled and asked "Are you really kicking me out?" and she angrily said "Yes, I have a zero tolerance on phones" once again I didn't fight this and just left. She also marked it as if I was absent for that day of class

I am just curious, are teachers actually allowed to do that? To subtract points from tests and kick students out and mark it against their attendance? I have the class tomorrow, I am not sure if she is gonna do anything else when I get there.

Dude, where's your sense of entitlement? Get entitled! I'm assuming you're paying to attend college, yes? You might be paying with student loans, which means taking up debt, and debt is one Hell of a burden to bear. You are a paying customer, and as such, you are entitled to the decent service that you are paying for. Denying you the classes you're paying to attend is NOT decent service by any standards. What right does she have to throw you out when you're contributing to her paycheck? Hell, she should be licking your boots. Go complain to the school board or something. Get mad, man! You gotta think of this in terms of the money; and you aren't getting your money's worth.

I don't know what the law "allows" her to do in this situation, but I do know that if the higher-ups are worth a tenth of their pay, they'll come down hard on her for her behavior, and take your side.

 

[Fishdog52]

In my college, it was entirely up to the professors. Some gave you dirty looks, some made you buy Oreos for the next class, others remembered who had smartphones and used them to look up cool stuff. There were several professors that, if your phone made audible noise or you were caught looking at it during a test, gave you a zero for that test and made you leave. (One class of mine this was a policy in only had two tests a semester, 33% of the overall grade each, instant fail.)

During my entire 4 years, there was only one time I needed to receive a message during class. I knew about it beforehand, and told the professor that I needed to leave class when I got called. The professor, who normally docked a letter grade off a phone interruption in class, just told me to put it to vibrate and not distract the class when I left.

 

[RaikuFA]

I am a college student, and I have a teacher who is hard core against cell phones in the class. (that and she just acts like all the students are children) When ever someone's phone goes off in their back pack, she writes their name down and when the next test comes around she subtracts points from them.

The other day my phone was on vibrate so she couldn't hear it, but it just kept going off so I took it out to shut it off. She caught me and asked what I was hiding, and told me to show the class. I put up no resistance and gave her no trouble, I just said "my phone was going off so I was shutting it off" and showed that it was indeed my phone. She then pointed to the door and said "good bye" I was baffled and asked "Are you really kicking me out?" and she angrily said "Yes, I have a zero tolerance on phones" once again I didn't fight this and just left. She also marked it as if I was absent for that day of class

I am just curious, are teachers actually allowed to do that? To subtract points from tests and kick students out and mark it against their attendance? I have the class tomorrow, I am not sure if she is gonna do anything else when I get there.

Dude, where's your sense of entitlement? Get entitled! I'm assuming you're paying to attend college, yes? You might be paying with student loans, which means taking up debt, and debt is one Hell of a burden to bear. You are a paying customer, and as such, you are entitled to the decent service that you are paying for. Denying you the classes you're paying to attend is NOT decent service by any standards. What right does she have to throw you out when you're contributing to her paycheck!? Hell, she should be licking your boots! Go complain to the school board or something. Get mad, man! Get mad that you aren't getting your money's worth.

they arent entitled to shit. shes paid, she can refuse to educate at all

 

[Belated]

I am a college student, and I have a teacher who is hard core against cell phones in the class. (that and she just acts like all the students are children) When ever someone's phone goes off in their back pack, she writes their name down and when the next test comes around she subtracts points from them.

The other day my phone was on vibrate so she couldn't hear it, but it just kept going off so I took it out to shut it off. She caught me and asked what I was hiding, and told me to show the class. I put up no resistance and gave her no trouble, I just said "my phone was going off so I was shutting it off" and showed that it was indeed my phone. She then pointed to the door and said "good bye" I was baffled and asked "Are you really kicking me out?" and she angrily said "Yes, I have a zero tolerance on phones" once again I didn't fight this and just left. She also marked it as if I was absent for that day of class

I am just curious, are teachers actually allowed to do that? To subtract points from tests and kick students out and mark it against their attendance? I have the class tomorrow, I am not sure if she is gonna do anything else when I get there.

Dude, where's your sense of entitlement? Get entitled! I'm assuming you're paying to attend college, yes? You might be paying with student loans, which means taking up debt, and debt is one Hell of a burden to bear. You are a paying customer, and as such, you are entitled to the decent service that you are paying for. Denying you the classes you're paying to attend is NOT decent service by any standards. What right does she have to throw you out when you're contributing to her paycheck!? Hell, she should be licking your boots! Go complain to the school board or something. Get mad, man! Get mad that you aren't getting your money's worth.

they arent entitled to shit. shes paid, she can refuse to educate at all

Your post makes no sense whatsoever. In fact, it makes so little sense, that it actually makes a negative value of sense. You are now in sense-debt.

If you pay for a service, are you not entitled to receive that service? If you pay for gasoline, you are entitled to the gasoline you paid for. If you go to a restaurant and order chicken, you are entitled to chicken. If you pay for movie tickets, you are entitled to go watch that movie. If you buy a video game console, you are entitled to play with that console. This is a very simple concept. I can't believe you don't get it.

He paid to be educated by her. Therefore, he is entitled to be educated by her. And if she refuses to educate, she is not upholding her end of the implied contract that his payment entails. Therefore, in the scenario you describe, he'd be entitled to his money back.

 

[Jared Domenico]

So long as cell phones have an off switch, teachers have the right to boot you out of their class for not using it.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

If you agreed to the conditions and they didn't just get announced to you and you were just expected to follow them, yes, you should be kicked out since you should have turned off your phone before coming to class.


From what I gather, this wasn't just a spur of the moment thing, the teacher had made the rules known. By your not dropping the class and not debating her rules with her you agreed to follow them. Are you not diligent enough to turn off the phone before class? If you can't manage that much then college really is beyond your capabilities.

 

[RaikuFA]

I am a college student, and I have a teacher who is hard core against cell phones in the class. (that and she just acts like all the students are children) When ever someone's phone goes off in their back pack, she writes their name down and when the next test comes around she subtracts points from them.

The other day my phone was on vibrate so she couldn't hear it, but it just kept going off so I took it out to shut it off. She caught me and asked what I was hiding, and told me to show the class. I put up no resistance and gave her no trouble, I just said "my phone was going off so I was shutting it off" and showed that it was indeed my phone. She then pointed to the door and said "good bye" I was baffled and asked "Are you really kicking me out?" and she angrily said "Yes, I have a zero tolerance on phones" once again I didn't fight this and just left. She also marked it as if I was absent for that day of class

I am just curious, are teachers actually allowed to do that? To subtract points from tests and kick students out and mark it against their attendance? I have the class tomorrow, I am not sure if she is gonna do anything else when I get there.

Dude, where's your sense of entitlement? Get entitled! I'm assuming you're paying to attend college, yes? You might be paying with student loans, which means taking up debt, and debt is one Hell of a burden to bear. You are a paying customer, and as such, you are entitled to the decent service that you are paying for. Denying you the classes you're paying to attend is NOT decent service by any standards. What right does she have to throw you out when you're contributing to her paycheck!? Hell, she should be licking your boots! Go complain to the school board or something. Get mad, man! Get mad that you aren't getting your money's worth.

they arent entitled to shit. shes paid, she can refuse to educate at all

Your post makes no sense whatsoever. In fact, it makes so little sense, that it actually makes a negative value of sense. You are now in sense-debt.

If you pay for a service, are you not entitled to receive that service? If you pay for gasoline, you are entitled to the gasoline you paid for. If you go to a restaurant and order chicken, you are entitled to chicken. If you pay for movie tickets, you are entitled to go watch that movie. If you buy a video game console, you are entitled to play with that console. This is a very simple concept. I can't believe you don't get it.

He paid to be educated by her. Therefore, he is entitled to be educated by her. And if she refuses to educate, she is not upholding her end of the implied contract that his payment entails. Therefore, in the scenario you describe, he'd be entitled to his money back.

sadly thats how it should be but school dont think like that

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

I am a college student, and I have a teacher who is hard core against cell phones in the class. (that and she just acts like all the students are children) When ever someone's phone goes off in their back pack, she writes their name down and when the next test comes around she subtracts points from them.

The other day my phone was on vibrate so she couldn't hear it, but it just kept going off so I took it out to shut it off. She caught me and asked what I was hiding, and told me to show the class. I put up no resistance and gave her no trouble, I just said "my phone was going off so I was shutting it off" and showed that it was indeed my phone. She then pointed to the door and said "good bye" I was baffled and asked "Are you really kicking me out?" and she angrily said "Yes, I have a zero tolerance on phones" once again I didn't fight this and just left. She also marked it as if I was absent for that day of class

I am just curious, are teachers actually allowed to do that? To subtract points from tests and kick students out and mark it against their attendance? I have the class tomorrow, I am not sure if she is gonna do anything else when I get there.

Dude, where's your sense of entitlement? Get entitled! I'm assuming you're paying to attend college, yes? You might be paying with student loans, which means taking up debt, and debt is one Hell of a burden to bear. You are a paying customer, and as such, you are entitled to the decent service that you are paying for. Denying you the classes you're paying to attend is NOT decent service by any standards. What right does she have to throw you out when you're contributing to her paycheck!? Hell, she should be licking your boots! Go complain to the school board or something. Get mad, man! Get mad that you aren't getting your money's worth.

they arent entitled to shit. shes paid, she can refuse to educate at all

Your post makes no sense whatsoever. In fact, it makes so little sense, that it actually makes a negative value of sense. You are now in sense-debt.

If you pay for a service, are you not entitled to receive that service? If you pay for gasoline, you are entitled to the gasoline you paid for. If you go to a restaurant and order chicken, you are entitled to chicken. If you pay for movie tickets, you are entitled to go watch that movie. If you buy a video game console, you are entitled to play with that console. This is a very simple concept. I can't believe you don't get it.

He paid to be educated by her. Therefore, he is entitled to be educated by her. And if she refuses to educate, she is not upholding her end of the implied contract that his payment entails. Therefore, in the scenario you describe, he'd be entitled to his money back.

He didn't pay for the general idea of education, he payed for education within the constraints of a college/university institution which has certain strings attached. One of those in this case was that he had to turn off his phone before class starts. He COULD ask for his money back by withdrawing from class, he did not, he agreed to the law of the professor, he deserved to be punished for breaking it. Simple, no?

 

[Belated]

I am a college student, and I have a teacher who is hard core against cell phones in the class. (that and she just acts like all the students are children) When ever someone's phone goes off in their back pack, she writes their name down and when the next test comes around she subtracts points from them.

The other day my phone was on vibrate so she couldn't hear it, but it just kept going off so I took it out to shut it off. She caught me and asked what I was hiding, and told me to show the class. I put up no resistance and gave her no trouble, I just said "my phone was going off so I was shutting it off" and showed that it was indeed my phone. She then pointed to the door and said "good bye" I was baffled and asked "Are you really kicking me out?" and she angrily said "Yes, I have a zero tolerance on phones" once again I didn't fight this and just left. She also marked it as if I was absent for that day of class

I am just curious, are teachers actually allowed to do that? To subtract points from tests and kick students out and mark it against their attendance? I have the class tomorrow, I am not sure if she is gonna do anything else when I get there.

Dude, where's your sense of entitlement? Get entitled! I'm assuming you're paying to attend college, yes? You might be paying with student loans, which means taking up debt, and debt is one Hell of a burden to bear. You are a paying customer, and as such, you are entitled to the decent service that you are paying for. Denying you the classes you're paying to attend is NOT decent service by any standards. What right does she have to throw you out when you're contributing to her paycheck!? Hell, she should be licking your boots! Go complain to the school board or something. Get mad, man! Get mad that you aren't getting your money's worth.

they arent entitled to shit. shes paid, she can refuse to educate at all

Your post makes no sense whatsoever. In fact, it makes so little sense, that it actually makes a negative value of sense. You are now in sense-debt.

If you pay for a service, are you not entitled to receive that service? If you pay for gasoline, you are entitled to the gasoline you paid for. If you go to a restaurant and order chicken, you are entitled to chicken. If you pay for movie tickets, you are entitled to go watch that movie. If you buy a video game console, you are entitled to play with that console. This is a very simple concept. I can't believe you don't get it.

He paid to be educated by her. Therefore, he is entitled to be educated by her. And if she refuses to educate, she is not upholding her end of the implied contract that his payment entails. Therefore, in the scenario you describe, he'd be entitled to his money back.

He didn't pay for the general idea of education, he payed for education within the constraints of a college/university institution which has certain strings attached. One of those in this case was that he had to turn off his phone before class starts. He COULD ask for his money back by withdrawing from class, he did not, he agreed to the law of the professor, he deserved to be punished for breaking it. Simple, no?

No, it's not that simple. Though I make the business comparison, college is more complicated than that. And most decent colleges are willing to accept feedback from students. Which is why I encourage him to take this issue up with higher-ups, who may order her to cease her draconian ways.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

I am a college student, and I have a teacher who is hard core against cell phones in the class. (that and she just acts like all the students are children) When ever someone's phone goes off in their back pack, she writes their name down and when the next test comes around she subtracts points from them.

The other day my phone was on vibrate so she couldn't hear it, but it just kept going off so I took it out to shut it off. She caught me and asked what I was hiding, and told me to show the class. I put up no resistance and gave her no trouble, I just said "my phone was going off so I was shutting it off" and showed that it was indeed my phone. She then pointed to the door and said "good bye" I was baffled and asked "Are you really kicking me out?" and she angrily said "Yes, I have a zero tolerance on phones" once again I didn't fight this and just left. She also marked it as if I was absent for that day of class

I am just curious, are teachers actually allowed to do that? To subtract points from tests and kick students out and mark it against their attendance? I have the class tomorrow, I am not sure if she is gonna do anything else when I get there.

Dude, where's your sense of entitlement? Get entitled! I'm assuming you're paying to attend college, yes? You might be paying with student loans, which means taking up debt, and debt is one Hell of a burden to bear. You are a paying customer, and as such, you are entitled to the decent service that you are paying for. Denying you the classes you're paying to attend is NOT decent service by any standards. What right does she have to throw you out when you're contributing to her paycheck!? Hell, she should be licking your boots! Go complain to the school board or something. Get mad, man! Get mad that you aren't getting your money's worth.

they arent entitled to shit. shes paid, she can refuse to educate at all

Your post makes no sense whatsoever. In fact, it makes so little sense, that it actually makes a negative value of sense. You are now in sense-debt.

If you pay for a service, are you not entitled to receive that service? If you pay for gasoline, you are entitled to the gasoline you paid for. If you go to a restaurant and order chicken, you are entitled to chicken. If you pay for movie tickets, you are entitled to go watch that movie. If you buy a video game console, you are entitled to play with that console. This is a very simple concept. I can't believe you don't get it.

He paid to be educated by her. Therefore, he is entitled to be educated by her. And if she refuses to educate, she is not upholding her end of the implied contract that his payment entails. Therefore, in the scenario you describe, he'd be entitled to his money back.

He didn't pay for the general idea of education, he payed for education within the constraints of a college/university institution which has certain strings attached. One of those in this case was that he had to turn off his phone before class starts. He COULD ask for his money back by withdrawing from class, he did not, he agreed to the law of the professor, he deserved to be punished for breaking it. Simple, no?

No, it's not that simple. Though I make the business comparison, college is more complicated than that. And most decent colleges are willing to accept feedback from students. Which is why I encourage him to take this issue up with higher-ups, who may order her to cease her draconian ways.

You're confusing the issue, as you saw I NEVER tackled the draconian or not qualities of her rules. That, is wholly irrelevant.


By agreeing to them through his conduct, he lost all footing he had in that case. To only go and complain after being busted for BREAKING them is a fallacy.

If you 're actually strongly against something, you shouldn't need the motive of reversing your punishment to push you to complain about it. If he truly felt that strongly about them he would have complained first thing after learning of them, he would have made this thread about them. But no, he didn't make the thread then, he only made it now cause his self-interest was harmed.

This means that he didn't really mind the rules all that much, he only minds that he actually got punished for breaking them, which is not a worthwhile motive for changing university policy.

 

[SilentCom]

Find her car, slash her tires, you'll feel better. Just kidding... but no, she does sound like a *****.

 

[flaviok79]

I'm a college professor, so let me give you my thoughts on the matter. it is frustrating as hell to try and teach people who won't pay attention. Specially because these same people usually are the ones who come asking for a break in grades or presence. Simply put, looking at your fone during class is disrespectfull and teachers will use anything they can to get your attention. Some try carrots, other try whips. Administration usually gives us the green light to punish kids as we see fit, if the goal is to have a better learning experience to the most students.
It is spececially hard to teach large classrooms, with over 40 students. We do what we need to keep most in line and to provide you with education, even against your will.

 

[DirgeNovak]

I'll join the choir and say this:
Turn. Off. Your. Motherfucking. Cellphone. BEFORE. Class.
If I had been your teacher, I'd have thrown it out the cunting window. This is the most annoying thing in a classroom.