are you going to buy mass effect andromeda?

[Generalissimo]

No.
the graphics and animations are a bad joke
The combat looks samey
Voice acting is wooden
Story fails to intrigue

It's just plain awful looking

 

[Here Comes Tomorrow]

And dear god, the fucking models...
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/228/203/9ba.jpg

No. For additional reasons.

Because making a 3D model from scratch with full rigging and animation in a cutting edge game engine is completely the same thing as airbrushing existing models in a 10+ years old engine that's far less potent and has less potential for animation and rigging...

I think the images point was more about aesthetics than technical aspects.
Neither looks particularly "military" to me. The original looks like an overly optimistic high schooler and the other is an anime character. I will say, the eyes on the left one are objectivly superior to the creepy zombie eyes of the right.

 

[bastardofmelbourne]

Yes, Bioware dropped the ball on the animations, but let's not pretend as if their job is easy.

Well, it's hard, but it's also their job. And they're a reputable company with a long history releasing the fourth installment of a major franchise. I would expect them to get this shit right. Other studios do, after all. Witcher 3 and DX:MD had much better facial animation. Hell, even Fallout 4 was better.

It may be because their budget got strangled, but we won't know that until later on when the developers start talking about it. Honestly, I feel like Andromeda ought to have been an original IP. They should've just gone full space Western with a new setting, ideally one where revolvers make sense from a technological perspective. It's the same feeling I get from God of War 4. It's like, this thing is so different from its predecessor, so why bother connecting them? People are more likely to get hyped over a new IP from a reputable developer (c.f. Destiny) than they are for a fourth dose of the same old shit.

 

[Gethsemani_v1legacy]

The face is based on a very attractive photomodel. Same with the dude face. The ugliness comes from poor modeling and weirdness caused by the lighting&skin shaders (+laughable animation).

The image macro literally says who it was based on, with the adjective "gorgeous". That's not them being generous.

Well, if you look at comparison shots (like the one found here [https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2948293/bioware-accused-of-making-mass-effect-andromeda-female-characters-ugly-in-bizarre-sexism-row/] and this photo [http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=61309901]) you'll notice that the actual shape of the face is pretty close. Ryder might be having slightly bigger eyes, but that's about it in terms of shape.

What people are reacting too is more down to three other things:
1. Ryder is without make-up, like completely, and in rather neutral lightning. In all the photos I've currently watched of Jayde Rossi she's both in flattering lightning and wearing enough make-up to push me into 8/10-territory too. In any comparison between a person without make-up, in lightning not set up to flatter, to someone in lots of make-up with tailored lightning the first person is much worse off.
2. Ryder is not posed in a way that flatters any face. Ryder is either photographed from a straight on angle or a slight frog angle, both of which will make the face seem larger and slightly more bloated. Comparing to Rossi, she's doing the age old model trick of almost always tilting her head forward slightly if the camera isn't already above her, this make the face seem slimmer and the nose smaller. It is especially noticeable in the Sun article.
3. Ryder is way into the uncanny valley, especially with those dead, dull eyes. Put them in any face and it will immediately lose all appeal.

Also, a woman looking attractive is 'creepy male pandering fanservice'? That's a leap or 12. Wonder what verbiage you have reserved for those fucked up weirdoes who buy body pillows.

The Anon model? Yes, that's definitely creepy male pandering fanservice (with the entire face being much closer to anime then real woman). Do note that I was explicitly referring to that and not Rossi or anyone else.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

Eh? i'll wait for a 75% off sale, when its only like $15. Its not worth more than that from what I've seen.

 

[Gethsemani_v1legacy]

Yeah, came to the same conclusions myself when it comes to the model. Seen enough "with makeup, without makeup" comparisons the get that. I'm also in agreement with the bad angles and whatnot.

However, the shape of her head is about the only thing they got right I'd say. Her main facial features, eyes, lips, nose are all off. They're all slightly wider/thicker, which coupled with the way PBR lighting interacts with the model, makes rounded shapes seem bigger than they are while also being flat in certain areas, like the bridge of the nose.

Yeah, that's the "based on" part, I guess. Though I came across at least one Rossi picture where her lips are arguably larger and much more botoxy (that's a real word dammit!) then Ryder's. Her nose is probably right as far as I can tell, but it is very hard to gauge accurately when Rossi is so professional that you never see her tilt her nose upwards in any picture.

I'm also pretty sure there's still some eyeshadow, and a slight blush on the cheeks too.

You might be right. The shitty lightning in most pictures of Ryder makes it really hard for me to tell. At any rate it is far less then your average model would wear during a shoot.

Gotta agree though, the eyes are thing that fucks up the stationary image. In motion though, the facial animations, whoof, they fuck you up dog.

I was very amused by the fact that Ryder was obviously supposed to smile when first entering the bridge on the Tempest. For me it looked more like she was having a seizure or a stroke, which was made even better by the camera panning upwards from a massive frog perspective. The entire scene, from facial animation to camera movement made it seem as if Ryder was about to fall backwards in epileptic seizures. It was hilarious, but definitely not in a way that Bioware intended.

 

[Aeshi]

I honestly don't know. I want to like it, because I find the whole "exploring a new galaxy" concept really intriguing. I can look past the odd graphical fuck-up, I remember the times where games had colour singular rather than plural.

But from what I've seen the gameplay is just kinda eh, and I'd be experiencing gameplay a lot more than I would be experiencing a concept. That said I only saw the first "planet", so maybe the gameplay picks up after that.

 

[Gergar12_v1legacy]

When the price drops I will. The core combat gameplay with the jetpacks looks great. Also hope the mods will add some better hairs.

 

[hentropy]

Bioware games have been more or less an insta-buy for me since I started buying games myself with KOTOR. The ending of ME3 was disappointing, sure, but it was a great overall game and got even more great with every DLC (except Omega, really... which is relevant to ME:A). I even enjoyed DA2 quite a bit, because for all its obvious, glaring problems, it still had that little spark of humanity, it still had interesting characters, and a setting that was really brought to life. It just delivered on pretty much everything other than gameplay. DAI, for all the maligning, I have 500 hours into and I love.

Bioware games have always been janky with questionable models, animation, and other mechanical features, but they always had great characters and great lore to back up their stories. They also had great opportunity for roleplay in its truest sense, the variety of which you can make your characters has always been wide, and made the game something you can sink an ungodly amount of time into in multiple playthroughs, rather than just a one-off experience.

Andromeda is the first game I'm probably not going to buy for a while, if at all. Sweeping away the deep and rich galaxy that we all came to love in exchange for a completely new one was the worst way to write themselves out of a corner. It doesn't appear any of the characters have the same sort of depth and interest as the original cast had. Even completely new characters in ME3 like James seemed like believable and interesting characters. The jankiness is a problem, but it only becomes a big problem when the game has no other redeeming features. Everything about the game seems like a pale imitation and a largely bad idea from conception. It's rather disappointing to me. I say it not as a hater who just wants them to go back to dice rolls and I'm not perpetually angry about the SJews. I'm genuinely disappointed that it appears Bioware has finally lost its spark, and doesn't hold itself to the same standards it used to.

 

[SpaceDoctor]

Once the PC version drops in price. I'm somewhat unsurprised that ME:A is very underwhelming, and the writing does look spotty, but BioWare games have been troubled since Dragon Age 2. DA:I and ME3 basically confirmed that BioWare would never top ME2 and DA:O.

Alongside upcoming patches being pushed out by BioWare to fix some of the game's problems, I think in a year's time, Andromeda will be seen as an OK BioWare game. Not perfect, but just OK.

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

I did. Its not perfect, it could use a good bit of polishing, but... its reminiscent of the fun of ME2 enough to justify my purchase. Could it be better? Absolutely and Bioware has fallen far from the KOTOR/Jade Empire days.

 

[Vorlayn]

I might have gotten it....but it seems to be Origin-exclusive. And that is one requirement I will not install. Such a shame they will not work with GOG...

 

[Weaver]

I stopped buying Bioware games after Dragon Age 2.

 

[Wrex Brogan]

Yes, Bioware dropped the ball on the animations, but let's not pretend as if their job is easy.

Well, it's hard, but it's also their job. And they're a reputable company with a long history releasing the fourth installment of a major franchise. I would expect them to get this shit right. Other studios do, after all. Witcher 3 and DX:MD had much better facial animation. Hell, even Fallout 4 was better.

It may be because their budget got strangled, but we won't know that until later on when the developers start talking about it. Honestly, I feel like Andromeda ought to have been an original IP. They should've just gone full space Western with a new setting, ideally one where revolvers make sense from a technological perspective. It's the same feeling I get from God of War 4. It's like, this thing is so different from its predecessor, so why bother connecting them? People are more likely to get hyped over a new IP from a reputable developer (c.f. Destiny) than they are for a fourth dose of the same old shit.

Shit, just look at Horizon Zero Dawn (really feels like that title needs a colon) - brand new IP that did things completely differently to the company's previous success and people ate it right the fuck up. Lord knows if ME:A was a new IP (even if it was the same game just without the Mass Effect elements) I'd be way more keen for it, but as it stands it keeps getting pushed back in my purchase-queue for other games because... well, Mass Effect 3 did a good enough job of finishing things, I don't really get all warm and fuzzy for a game that's going 'OH BY THE WAY THIS WAS ALSO HAPPENING'.

 

[Estarc]

I was planning to but after it became apparent that the game has a bunch of quality issues, namely poor animation and writing, no, I'm not.

In fact I bought Horizon Zero Dawn instead. No regrets. First game I've bought in ages that I've really loved. Doesn't do anything new for a sandbox, but it takes all the old ideas, mixes them together and executes it near perfectly. Here's hoping I enjoy Persona 5 just as much.

 

[Mcgeezaks]

No.
the graphics and animations are a bad joke
The combat looks samey
Voice acting is wooden
Story fails to intrigue

It's just plain awful looking

You need to get some glasses, buddy.

 

[JemothSkarii]

No, never. Launch issues aside, Mass Effect 3 killed any interest in the series for me. No, not just the ending, I had many issues with the game as a whole. The pick a colour ending was just the icing.
It was much like a sponge cake from Woolworths; looked okay but was dry, bland and more disappointing than you thought.

Looks like a bland third person shooter with a story nailed on. I have Ghost Recon: Wildlands for that. The ONLY thing that had me vaguely interested was the female Turian companion and a Youtube video later and I was thoroughly disappointed at the lack of potential.
I'd play it if somebody just randomly gave me a copy for PS4. I ain't installing Origin on my PC and I still need another Hard Drive for it.

 

[Ishigami]

They got the Mass Effect Archive online: https://masseffectarchives.com/en_US/

So its now possible to share custom Ryders.

Mine is this: https://masseffectarchives.com/#user/2250454534/playthrough/1968214614/gender/female

Used preset 9 to get close to Lara Croft from Tomb Raider reboot:

Ingame:

[http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php?file=5ae977-1490460429.png]

Considering the limits of the creator I think I got pretty close. So far seems to work alright. Can't fix animations of course but seems less noticeable.

Kinda silly that a preset with IMO caucasian bone structure results in a Samuel L Jackson father despite white as toast bread twin/son and daughter skin colour.
I guess they are adopeted or his wife cheated on him xD

 

[Generalissimo]

No.
the graphics and animations are a bad joke
The combat looks samey
Voice acting is wooden
Story fails to intrigue

It's just plain awful looking

You need to get some glasses, buddy.

wow, that sure showed me.

 

[Mcgeezaks]

No.
the graphics and animations are a bad joke
The combat looks samey
Voice acting is wooden
Story fails to intrigue

It's just plain awful looking

You need to get some glasses, buddy.

wow, that sure showed me.

Yep I sure was trying :^)