are you going to buy mass effect andromeda?
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If you'd asked me after Mass Effect 2: "Hell yeah! I love Mass Effect! Whee!"
If you'd asked me after Mass Effect 3: "Hell no! They really need to earn back their trust after that ending!"
If you'd asked me a month back: "Hmm. Probably. My anger towards the ending of the first trilogy has subsided, and I kinda miss the setting."
If you ask me now: "Not until they fix those janky animations or a severe reduction in price."
If you'd asked me after Mass Effect 3: "Hell no! They really need to earn back their trust after that ending!"
If you'd asked me a month back: "Hmm. Probably. My anger towards the ending of the first trilogy has subsided, and I kinda miss the setting."
If you ask me now: "Not until they fix those janky animations or a severe reduction in price."
I'm not pre-ordering it. Beyond that, I haven't decided. I loved the trilogy (despite the glaring flaws with latter titles) and old-BioWare enough that I will pay attention to their releases, but AAA publishers dirty tricks for so long mean I won't pre-order anymore. Microtransactions, Day 1 DLC, on-disc DLC, always-online DRM, season passes, selling multiplayer maps, press embargoes and the rest are all practises that are scummy at best and outright despicable at worst so trusting EA, Ubisoft, Activion or Squeenix on their words (and PR) alone is foolhardy.
The previews so far seem mixed. Complaints about faces, animations, voice acting, whack-a-mole combat and DA:Inquisition style grind on the one hand with kinetic combat, space exploration, interesting characters and most importantly, Biotic Charge, on the other. I'm looking forward to seeing what reviews say about the game, in particular beyond the first planet that seems to be all that EA have permitted to be shown in press previews and game footage.
The previews so far seem mixed. Complaints about faces, animations, voice acting, whack-a-mole combat and DA:Inquisition style grind on the one hand with kinetic combat, space exploration, interesting characters and most importantly, Biotic Charge, on the other. I'm looking forward to seeing what reviews say about the game, in particular beyond the first planet that seems to be all that EA have permitted to be shown in press previews and game footage.
No.
Tried Mass Effect one, hated what little I played of it, never bought another. Tried Dragon Age Origins, very meh.
Baldur's Gate, wanted to like so much, but just couldn't. KOTOR and SWTOR, very meh, stopped playing pretty quickly.
Basically, Bioware games, not for me.
Tried Mass Effect one, hated what little I played of it, never bought another. Tried Dragon Age Origins, very meh.
Baldur's Gate, wanted to like so much, but just couldn't. KOTOR and SWTOR, very meh, stopped playing pretty quickly.
Basically, Bioware games, not for me.
Nope, not on release.
In several years time when it's around ?5-10? Maybe. But still only a maybe.
I think it's crucial for the gaming industry that as few people buy this on release as possibl, so that EA & Bioware actually start to sit up & take note of how their woefully sub-par games of late won't just continue to be gobbled up regardless of quality.
In several years time when it's around ?5-10? Maybe. But still only a maybe.
I think it's crucial for the gaming industry that as few people buy this on release as possibl, so that EA & Bioware actually start to sit up & take note of how their woefully sub-par games of late won't just continue to be gobbled up regardless of quality.
No, I was never big fan of the series to begin with. I do wish the best of luck of people wanting the game.
We'll see if I even bother to get the discounted complete edition a year or two down the line. I'm around 25% it's a rookie team trying its wings, and 75% just a blatant EA brand recognition cashgrab at the moment.
The number of times they said Inqusition will be the template for future BioWare games only fills me with apathy.
The number of times they said Inqusition will be the template for future BioWare games only fills me with apathy.
Not for me. The crazy wonky animation main loops are probably patchable, although they never should have got into the release version in the first instance
However the combination of bad voice acting, poor lip syncing and bad eye contact kills it. ME games have big sequences of conversation tree dialogue, you spend probably half the game watching and listening to characters talk to each other, dilated dead eyes staring off random places, zombie skin and emotionless voices are going to kill those sections. The action parts are such light-weight shooter content they are not going to be enough to carry the game.
However the combination of bad voice acting, poor lip syncing and bad eye contact kills it. ME games have big sequences of conversation tree dialogue, you spend probably half the game watching and listening to characters talk to each other, dilated dead eyes staring off random places, zombie skin and emotionless voices are going to kill those sections. The action parts are such light-weight shooter content they are not going to be enough to carry the game.
What he/she saidMajestic Manatee said:I can and I willSamtemdo8 said:Well you can't deny self evident criticisms like the animation and design of the female characters.Kreett said:Doesn't change the fact you made an uneducated complaint, your Criticise Andromeda card has been revokedSamtemdo8 said:Who voices him in a way that reminds me of Nathen Drake regardlessGizen said:
And in mass effect 3 they held a ship backwards https://i.redd.it/zwa3emoomwky.jpg not imbedding because it's a large jpgSamtemdo8 said:And I also seen one with someone having an assault rifle attached to their arm.bastardofmelbourne said:Technically, they aren't self-evident criticisms because taste in digital art, like all art, is a highly variable and subjective thing. There might be someone out there who thinks that this [https://twitter.com/RatCasket/status/842424417099649029] is incredibly hot! Who knows?Samtemdo8 said:
But, yes, in Andromeda's case it's a little, uh, on-the-nose. [http://i.imgur.com/ZDXbz97.gif]
Oh, come on, she was holding the gun backwards. [https://media.giphy.com/media/11LZQs834JTg5O/giphy.gif]Majestic Manatee said:
I enjoyed Mass Effect well enough, so I figure I'll get this one eventually. Unfortunately, it has the misfortune to be launching during a Q1 of 2017 that has been packed to the gills with Japanese games I want to play... despite japanese games I wanted to play being a rare commodity for years before this... it was like I went from dying of thirst in a desert to drowning in a tsunami.
Its release date is especially troublesome for me, coming out more or less at the halfway point between Atelier Firis and Nier Automata, and the April release of Persona 5. There's just no feasible way I can prioritize it over the competition right now, and I still need to find a way to budget in Yakuza 0, on top of all that.
So, to answer your question: yeah, I'll play it, eventually.
Its release date is especially troublesome for me, coming out more or less at the halfway point between Atelier Firis and Nier Automata, and the April release of Persona 5. There's just no feasible way I can prioritize it over the competition right now, and I still need to find a way to budget in Yakuza 0, on top of all that.
So, to answer your question: yeah, I'll play it, eventually.
I already have.
Just waiting for it to unlock on Origin.
I liked the trial and thus far I see no reason to not like the game.
For me people mostly nitpick the shit out of it because I assume they have a hatred for EA or BioWare.
It's not like I don't see that some facial animations are stiff and strange but then go to hilarious overacting for the next character. But I did not expect anything else. Because BioWare have been making these kind of animations for years now: Since Mass Effect from 2008.
That means that ME:A is now the 9th game in 9 years which uses similar animations and people act all surprised. I don't get it. It like expecting a Fallout or Elders Scroll game to do better 3rd person camera and animations.
Would I wish they would improve? Yes. Will it ruin the game for me? No.
There was this article which said the quest feel very much like in a MMO and it specifically complained about the quest where you investigate a murder to be very generic.
I find this kind of funny because on a design level this very quest is basically a copy of a Witcher 3 quest. One of the very early ones in fact: The burned down forge of the dwarf right at the beginning of Witcher 3.
What was important to me is that BioWare returns to side quests being small stories again. As far as I can tell they did that. Not all conclusions are as detailed as one would wish e.g. the saboteur confesses and then simply walks out of the screen was awkward. But again this is not a new issue BioWare has been doing that sort of stuff at least since SW:KotOR.
I heard some complains about the visuals. Again I find this somewhat puzzling. BioWare has never made a visually outstanding game form a technical standpoint to me. BioWare nails some notes in the aesthetics department but that's about it. When they made the jump to FrostBite for the first time in their history they actually had up-to-date engine at their hand. What I'm saying is that DA:I and ME:A look more contemporary than any previous BioWare games at their time.
And then there is the writing of course. I haven't noticed much in my 10 hours especially since a broken background process cut my trial short by 3 hours. Anyway from what I gathered people are angry about some stereotypes and one liners. Stuff like that doesn't bother me much to be honest. I rather have them avoid actual pitfalls like the starchild and reaper logic. I take a cheesy one liner over a nonsensical story any time of the day.
I have apparently different expectations of BioWare games than some... suites me just fine.
Just waiting for it to unlock on Origin.
I liked the trial and thus far I see no reason to not like the game.
For me people mostly nitpick the shit out of it because I assume they have a hatred for EA or BioWare.
It's not like I don't see that some facial animations are stiff and strange but then go to hilarious overacting for the next character. But I did not expect anything else. Because BioWare have been making these kind of animations for years now: Since Mass Effect from 2008.
That means that ME:A is now the 9th game in 9 years which uses similar animations and people act all surprised. I don't get it. It like expecting a Fallout or Elders Scroll game to do better 3rd person camera and animations.
Would I wish they would improve? Yes. Will it ruin the game for me? No.
There was this article which said the quest feel very much like in a MMO and it specifically complained about the quest where you investigate a murder to be very generic.
I find this kind of funny because on a design level this very quest is basically a copy of a Witcher 3 quest. One of the very early ones in fact: The burned down forge of the dwarf right at the beginning of Witcher 3.
What was important to me is that BioWare returns to side quests being small stories again. As far as I can tell they did that. Not all conclusions are as detailed as one would wish e.g. the saboteur confesses and then simply walks out of the screen was awkward. But again this is not a new issue BioWare has been doing that sort of stuff at least since SW:KotOR.
I heard some complains about the visuals. Again I find this somewhat puzzling. BioWare has never made a visually outstanding game form a technical standpoint to me. BioWare nails some notes in the aesthetics department but that's about it. When they made the jump to FrostBite for the first time in their history they actually had up-to-date engine at their hand. What I'm saying is that DA:I and ME:A look more contemporary than any previous BioWare games at their time.
And then there is the writing of course. I haven't noticed much in my 10 hours especially since a broken background process cut my trial short by 3 hours. Anyway from what I gathered people are angry about some stereotypes and one liners. Stuff like that doesn't bother me much to be honest. I rather have them avoid actual pitfalls like the starchild and reaper logic. I take a cheesy one liner over a nonsensical story any time of the day.
I have apparently different expectations of BioWare games than some... suites me just fine.
While we're here picking holes in the older ME games, lets not forget the consistent bug I've had where Shepard refuses to hold an assault rifle properly and holds it like a pistol across ME2 and 3.Kreett said:And in mass effect 3 they held a ship backwards https://i.redd.it/zwa3emoomwky.jpg not imbedding because it's a large jpgSamtemdo8 said:And I also seen one with someone having an assault rifle attached to their arm.bastardofmelbourne said:Technically, they aren't self-evident criticisms because taste in digital art, like all art, is a highly variable and subjective thing. There might be someone out there who thinks that this [https://twitter.com/RatCasket/status/842424417099649029] is incredibly hot! Who knows?Samtemdo8 said:
But, yes, in Andromeda's case it's a little, uh, on-the-nose. [http://i.imgur.com/ZDXbz97.gif]
Oh, come on, she was holding the gun backwards. [https://media.giphy.com/media/11LZQs834JTg5O/giphy.gif]Majestic Manatee said:
Also, lets not forget, the cover art for ME2 has a smoking fucking gun sight [http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/masseffect/images/7/73/ME2_Cover_Art.png/revision/latest?cb=20120711195136] on Shepard's weapon.
Plus lets not forget Shepard's obsession with looking down and to the left during ME1 and 2's Normandy sections and enemies moon-walking across the battlefield. Also people clipping through desks/tables, hair clipping through helmets and god knows what. Basically, the TL;DR of this, I don't give a fuck about the animation bugs (I experienced none anyway with a custom FemRyder btw), I almost expect there to be some fuck ups in a ME game.
And I'm OK with this, both in ME and other series.
Her eyes... those eyes. She is peering in to my soul, and stripping away everything that is me!Captain Marvelous said:
Okay, that is completely different. Firstly, the gun sight looks like a gun barrel. Secondly, the guy doing the cover art probably had little or nothing to do with the animation or graphic design team. He would've been some clueless marketing intern with Photoshop.Sassafrass said:
"Which one of these barrel-like segments of this future assault rifle do the bullets come out of?...Fuck it, it's both."
Eitherway it's a damn sight more understandable than a pistol being held backwards during a character introduction scene that got a fair amount of press. I mean, it's bizarre. Their PR department is intentionally [http://www.polygon.com/2017/1/4/14165976/mass-effect-andromeda-animation-marketing-tweet-gif] drawing attention to badly animated [https://twitter.com/masseffect/status/816343486685388800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw] segments of the game.
It all screams low-quality to me. Like, I'm not going to play an RPG that's 60% talking when the facial animations have all the appeal of a freshly-harvested human face stapled to an animatronic mannequin.
Ehh, gonna give it a week or two after release, that'll give me a good look at the full reviews and all that. Always enjoyed the ME series and what I've seen (outside the hilarious animation glitches) has been good, but I'm leery enough about pre-orders and day-one editions that I'd rather wait and see what everyone thinks of it after the hype has died down rather than buy it on faith.
That said, even if it's met with luke-warm reactions I'll probably still get it for the Multiplayer, I finally have 3 friends interested in the series to play it with so I won't have to rely on randoms who try sniping with a fucking SMG or who try to melee Brutes to death because they think Nova-Charge Vanguards are unstoppable. Christ, I hate pick-up groups.
That said, even if it's met with luke-warm reactions I'll probably still get it for the Multiplayer, I finally have 3 friends interested in the series to play it with so I won't have to rely on randoms who try sniping with a fucking SMG or who try to melee Brutes to death because they think Nova-Charge Vanguards are unstoppable. Christ, I hate pick-up groups.
I'm probably never going to purchase another EA product for the rest of my life, so nah.
Hope people enjoy it. No longer my cup of tea.
Hope people enjoy it. No longer my cup of tea.