Atheists who celebrate X-mas
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1. To answer your question, no I am not wrong.Sightless Wisdom said:
2. I do, while you obviously don't. And before you can ask, The bible, a history book, wiki, the fact that it's still recognized as a christian holiday... except by you Take your pick.
3. You want to know WHY it would be stpid to change it? Because its the celebration of the birth of Christ.
4. Yay? Again, I must refer you to a previous post. But please follow up on that before you forget how to read.
5. Some might not... Like the people you mentioned. But (and I'm about to blow your mind) Alot of christians celebrate Christmas, which literally translates to "Birth of Christ". Surely you've seen at least one nativity scene in your life.
6. Yea some. The party who favor the secular view, like I've already said. Instead of spewing more ignorance, read some of the stuff I've already written.
And please, do let me know what its like to have to wear a helmet 24 hours a day.
I love being a hypocrite. As soon as you admit to yourself you are one the easier it is to enjoy life.
I guess I am an athiest, and I celebrate Christmas. Nobody knows the exact day Jesus was born anyway, so Christmas technically doesn't make that much sense on a religious standpoint. It has evolved into a holiday for everyone, and honestly I like that.akibawall95 said:
You're a bit out of date there. Most of this happened in the days of Pagan Rome, or at best the dark ages. The middle ages came much, much later, and by that time, most people were already Christian. Ireland was somewhat Christianized by the 4th Century AD, although their church was very different from the Roman Church. They had monasteries where men and women lived in harmony and matrimony, and their children were brought up there. They were called "Conhospitae" or "Double Houses", and the Roman church had already begun advocating for Celibacy in their priests and Monks.humor_involuntario said:
But, getting back to the holidays stuff, when it was done, Pagans were in the majority, and the church was desperate for converts. They wanted to assure Pagan converts that they could still celebrate the holidays they loved, but with a Christian bent. They were also in competition with the Church of Mithras, another God-man sacrificed on behalf of his followers, who had baptisms and secret rites. Mithras nearly beat out Christ in the competition for followers. In fact, the writings of Justin Martyr (2nd Century) accuse the Mithraists of diabolically imitating the Christian communion rite. But Mithraism was older than Christianity and originated somewhere in Germany.
December 25th was accounted the birthday of Mithras, as well.
As an American Christmas is a part of my culture (also a part of many others I imagine). So I would celebrate it because it is something I've always done, it is a good way to get closer with loved ones, and gives me something to look forward to and lighten up the winter months.
Wait, wait... so, those guys whose job hinges on the very unproven possibility that the Bible is true tout the fact that the Bible is true? Say it ain't so! The Bible proves nothing. That road leads to circular logic unless you have some tactile evidence, and not just, "It's God's word!"ExaltedK9 said:
As... as a... whatever... (I call myself a Luminist, not sure if there are any others out there...) I celebrate Xmas because the rest of the family does. Personal preference will put my tradition in the middle of SUMMER when it's my decision.
Living here in fools revolution as a resistance fighter against stupidity and arrogance, being an atheist, those days are nothing to celebrate, but it is good, to feel the peace and love around. So let us enjoy it!
I didn't realize there were rules against buying gifts for your friends and families.
Really man?
Really man?
Jesus isn't really the reason for the season, despite what a lot of bumper stickers would have you believe.
Christmas is, and has always been (even when it was called Saturnalia and was a winter festival dedicated to the pagan god Saturn) a time for communities to come together in the most inhospitable time of year, the winter solstice, and share whatever bounty they can, and appreciate being with those people while you still can.
It's a time for making other people happy, You look at the snow outside, and you make a little extra room on your hearth so that your friends can be close to you and not either by themselves or out in the cold. You think of your friends, and you make or purchase items that you think will surprise them and make them smile.
It really, has very little to do with jesus.
A lot of christian holidays are like that, just because of the way they were created. Take a pagan holiday, and then just add jesus stuff to it, and downplay the non-jesus stuff. Easter's the same way. "You can still have your spring fertility festival with all the eggs and rabbits, but ALSO, while you're doing that, just remember that jesus was ressurected, and that'll be great"
There are lots of reasons for athiests to be festive during the holidays.
Christmas is, and has always been (even when it was called Saturnalia and was a winter festival dedicated to the pagan god Saturn) a time for communities to come together in the most inhospitable time of year, the winter solstice, and share whatever bounty they can, and appreciate being with those people while you still can.
It's a time for making other people happy, You look at the snow outside, and you make a little extra room on your hearth so that your friends can be close to you and not either by themselves or out in the cold. You think of your friends, and you make or purchase items that you think will surprise them and make them smile.
It really, has very little to do with jesus.
A lot of christian holidays are like that, just because of the way they were created. Take a pagan holiday, and then just add jesus stuff to it, and downplay the non-jesus stuff. Easter's the same way. "You can still have your spring fertility festival with all the eggs and rabbits, but ALSO, while you're doing that, just remember that jesus was ressurected, and that'll be great"
There are lots of reasons for athiests to be festive during the holidays.