Australian McDonald's Now Spraying Thieves With DNA

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Hm, interesting. Of course it's possible to avoid having that actually touch your skin but as I'm sure McDonald's is hoping, that's too much of an effort to even bother altogether.
 

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minuialear said:
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Now, if someone shows up who wants a handful of cash instead of a handful of french fries, a small device above the exit will activate during his or her getaway, covering the bandit's skin and clothing with a synthetic DNA strand made up of sixty separate chromosomes
Spot the science goof and win a prize (no actual prizes will be given).
Yeah, DNA strands aren't made of chromosomes...it's the other way around.

Also, why do they need 60 chromosomes in the first place?
Because apparently "glow under a UV light in some way that can be used to identify the branch" is fairly complicated. Even though I'm pretty sure DNA in general glows under a UV light.
 

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Counter: Wear a raincoat and something to protect the eyes, face and hands.
Some of it would still contaminate some part of your body.

Actual counters would be either not leaving via the main exit, or somehow getting your hands on a large amount of exo- or endo- nuclease and bathing in it for an hour or so (after checking to make sure the enzyme won't cause lasting damage if you bathe in it, of course...).
 

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RJ 17 said:
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RJ 17 said:
Heh but seriously, we're shooting people with DNA? Better hope that stuff has no side effects, can you say lawsuit?
Wat. How could it possibly have side effects? It's DNA. DNA never hurt nobody.
Actually, as a rather disturbing example, there are both men and women who are highly alergic to semen. :p

But I was refering to what happens if this DNA starts bonding with the person's DNA? I'm not saying they'll turn into some kind of mutant freak, but I'd imagine the possibility for some kind of bad reaction is there.
...oh dear.

I'm going to avoid chewing you out on this and simply say that it doesn't work like that. It's very difficult to cause any interaction between DNA sequences from different genomes (i.e. I have done this in the lab and it requires specific growth media and the use of several enzymes just to accomplish it in bacteria, which are very easy to "dope" with new genes compared to mammals), and once foreign DNA makes its way into the cell it will be broken down into individual nucleic acids very quickly outside of some fairly rare circumstances. If you want to insert genes into human cells, you (currently) (nearly) have to use RNA and a retrovirus.
 

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I very much doubt it's DNA, it will most likely be some sort of LNA or something since DNA in and off itself doesn't glow in the dark, it needs something to bind to it before UV light will react with it.

And regarding cancer, I wouldn't worry too much, if it's LNA and large, the risk of going into where the DNA is is minimal.

Mylinkay Asdara said:
So... we can ID tag thieves with created DNA... but we still haven't cured Cancer or even found out why people get things like MS?

Why?
Making this "DNA" is relatively easy, curing a disease is not.
 

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that is interesting but what about the inocent guy what about the back sprey, how do you know if it leaking, if an inocent is leaving at the same time and gets spreyed does that mean they get jailed too?
 

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why do they rob maccas?

its a soft target. what opposition are you going to have? a couple little 14 yr old girls and a guy 15-18 or two from the kitchen. a manager or two.... nothing really.

then take into account that they are trained to just do what the burglar says anyway... maccas arent above sacking 'heroic' employees.
 

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Boris Goodenough said:
I very much doubt it's DNA, it will most likely be some sort of LNA or something since DNA in and off itself doesn't glow in the dark, it needs something to bind to it before UV light will react with it.

And regarding cancer, I wouldn't worry too much, if it's LNA and large, the risk of going into where the DNA is is minimal.

Mylinkay Asdara said:
So... we can ID tag thieves with created DNA... but we still haven't cured Cancer or even found out why people get things like MS?

Why?
Making this "DNA" is relatively easy, curing a disease is not.
FTFY: This "DNA" can be made and sold. Curing a disease makes less money then long term treatments, so we will never see a cure officially recognized.

On topic, that's quite a neat idea. Though I'd like to see exactly what it is they mean by "DNA", as someone else already said, that's a very vague term.
 

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Canadish said:
FTFY: This "DNA" can be made and sold. Curing a disease makes less money then long term treatments, so we will never see a cure officially recognized.

On topic, that's quite a neat idea. Though I'd like to see exactly what it is they mean by "DNA", as someone else already said, that's a very vague term.
Making a cure is a loooong term project, you make it sound like it's easy, it is not. Because alterering DNA in the entire body is very very hard and hoping the proteom will change aswell is just an added obstacle.

I am not saying big pharma isn't devious and greedy, but there are pratical limits to what is their own direct doing has.
 

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Am I the only one who would ask them to test the spray on me just before I'd go to a rave?

Yes? Well that's disappointing. Also...

samsonguy920 said:
Kargathia said:
The fashionable robber always brings an umbrella anyway.

Alternatively: Brick, meet window. Window, meet brick.

Poor window never quite recovered from the shock.
And then leave your own DNA behind when the plate glass gives you a laceration.

Either case, I have to wonder when the sprayers malfunction, and you know they will, if the paying customers that can suddenly be the coolest people in a dance club get a decent compensation.
Besides being the coolest people in a dance club. Unfunfunfunfunfunfunf.
Welp, looks like you actually did beat me to it. Anyway, wear boots, throw rock. Plate glass isn't that dangerous if you're wearing decent footware. I've kicked in plate glass windows, no damage was done to me.

(My boots were a little scuffed though, however, they were kinda big, metal and spikey, it just added to it :p)
 

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Who else now wants to rob a maccas without a shirt, and then hit up a rave?
Damn, ninja'd hard by multiple people.

I might go steal a cheesburger and an apple pie now. Just make sure they put it into a bag, because although odorless it might not be tasteless.
 

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There have been measures used like this in Britain for some time now. Government buildings have been sprayed with this stuff to stop burglars, it has a rather incredibly high success rate.

We also use this method on fencing security, except it is really obvious red paint. Paint that never rubs off. :p
 

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Aaaaaaah, I thaught McDonalds was spraying theives with stuff that would mutate them into cows who they would then arrest and chop up into yummy people/cow burgers... I am dispoint.
 

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jonnosferatu said:
RJ 17 said:
Kopikatsu said:
RJ 17 said:
Heh but seriously, we're shooting people with DNA? Better hope that stuff has no side effects, can you say lawsuit?
Wat. How could it possibly have side effects? It's DNA. DNA never hurt nobody.
Actually, as a rather disturbing example, there are both men and women who are highly alergic to semen. :p

But I was refering to what happens if this DNA starts bonding with the person's DNA? I'm not saying they'll turn into some kind of mutant freak, but I'd imagine the possibility for some kind of bad reaction is there.
...oh dear.

I'm going to avoid chewing you out on this and simply say that it doesn't work like that. It's very difficult to cause any interaction between DNA sequences from different genomes (i.e. I have done this in the lab and it requires specific growth media and the use of several enzymes just to accomplish it in bacteria, which are very easy to "dope" with new genes compared to mammals), and once foreign DNA makes its way into the cell it will be broken down into individual nucleic acids very quickly outside of some fairly rare circumstances. If you want to insert genes into human cells, you (currently) (nearly) have to use RNA and a retrovirus.
No need to worry, I've already acknowledged that what I said was quite foolish.

RJ 17 said:
Guardian of Nekops said:
RJ 17 said:
Kopikatsu said:
RJ 17 said:
Heh but seriously, we're shooting people with DNA? Better hope that stuff has no side effects, can you say lawsuit?
Wat. How could it possibly have side effects? It's DNA. DNA never hurt nobody.
Actually, as a rather disturbing example, there are both men and women who are highly alergic to semen. :p

But I was refering to what happens if this DNA starts bonding with the person's DNA? I'm not saying they'll turn into some kind of mutant freak, but I'd imagine the possibility for some kind of bad reaction is there.
Well, the reason this is safe is because it's REALLY hard to create a life form in a lab. Like, we haven't managed to do it yet, at least not from scratch. Not only does your DNA not normally get corrupted when it gets hit with other creatures's skin flakes (which you breathe in all the time), or whatever, but this spray doesn't even SAY anything, according to nature. It's human shorthand in really tiny letters that says "McDonalds Number 376," not a living thing that could potentially get out of control.

Add to that the fact that most things it touches (skin, etc) are already dead and therefore unable to mutate and affect the host organism, and we have some very good reasons to believe that everything will be fine.
You say that now...just don't come crying to me when you have to have Cave Johnson scoop out all your tumors and replace them with science!

Heh heh, just kidding, yeah you had me at the example about random ambient skin-flakes in the air. I hadn't even thought of that but you're 100% correct.

Edit: Just something about getting sprayed down by pure, raw DNA sounds creepy to me...and no, I'm not meaning for that to be a perverted statement.
 

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Ok then new plan:

1. Wear disposable clothes burn after robbery, clothes must cover all skin, maybe wear goggles?
2. If misted shoot people in rage. This seems like a real fear to me as if I figure I am now going to be caught because this employee misted me I am damn well gonna kill them.
3. Cool idea though
No one smart enough to plan that out is going to be robbing a McDonalds. Criminals of this scale are doing something dumb for a reason: they're desperate and/or very unintelligent and think they'll get away with it.

Oh and people don't just start shooting and murdering bystanders. One might think that from their armchair, but reality doesn't work that way. Murder is not something anyone takes on lightly. People who DO just decide to execute innocent people, aren't in the middle of robbing a fast-food restaurant, either.
 

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We've had this in the UK for years. Not sure if McD's use it, but loads of other places do.