Australia's Internet Filter Switches On In July
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Eliminating those attributes from the internet would be akin to removing an appendix, tossing out the body, and saying to the appendix "You're free now!". Oh yeah, that'll work out JUST FINE.SomethingAmazing said:
No, I can't see this as a good thing ever. Nothing has caused more cursing and swearing than censoreship. Just as nothing has made drinking all the more wanted and sacred than Prohibition. And by god, I'm sure smokers are getting tired of not having anywhere reasonable to actually light up.
The lack of tolerance in the world is staggering and unhealthy in its own right.
I wish this was true, but next month is also when the Greens gain 3 more seats and will have the majority. The Greens are being described as "Watermelons", Green on the outside, communist red on the inside. Next month is a bad month for Australia.Blitzwing said:
Very well Australia, let's do this. To the Australians reading this: you have a weapon much more powerful than any proxies or IP bouncing: your wallets. Change you ISP, get your friends to change theirs, spread the word around your neighborhood and your schools and places of work, people don't need to know the technicalities and moralities of why these companies should not be given money, just make the people you know switch their provider. Make everyone you know think twice when renewing their subscriptions.
Don't hope for some law to protect you. Don't give give in to violence and threats. Simply tell these companies - and any others that think about doing the same or similar - one simpe thing:
This. Is. Financial. Suicide.
Don't hope for some law to protect you. Don't give give in to violence and threats. Simply tell these companies - and any others that think about doing the same or similar - one simpe thing:
This. Is. Financial. Suicide.
Okay, what exactly are they trying to do here? And what do they mean by child abuse websites? Do they mean child porn? I got a better idea, why don't they track these sites down and nail the administrators and all others affiliated with these sites to the fucking wall. Besides, this kind of content is more likely to be distributed by the P2P networks, not through HTTP, which is what they will be blocking. These assholes are cleverer than that.
Then you have this problem, any and all sites who disagree with the government could be blocked because they are a "child abuse site" and someone could try to confirm this, but the sites blocked. Okay, that's a bit slippery slope, but if you ask me, freedom of speech must be absolute, there's no reason for it not to be.
This is simply a bad idea, I don't know how else to put it. Though if I had to guess, I'd say they're probably doing this by messing with their DNS servers, which could be easily worked around by using OpenDNS.
Then you have this problem, any and all sites who disagree with the government could be blocked because they are a "child abuse site" and someone could try to confirm this, but the sites blocked. Okay, that's a bit slippery slope, but if you ask me, freedom of speech must be absolute, there's no reason for it not to be.
This is simply a bad idea, I don't know how else to put it. Though if I had to guess, I'd say they're probably doing this by messing with their DNS servers, which could be easily worked around by using OpenDNS.
God, I feel so sorry for all our Australian friends. If you'd like some of the US's guns to overthrow that authoritarian regime you've got toting around, I'd be happy to send some of them your way.
EDIT: Guess I didn't read it carefully enough, I see it's a voluntary thing the ISP's are doing.
EDIT: Guess I didn't read it carefully enough, I see it's a voluntary thing the ISP's are doing.
-rage face-
Wasting time and money on internet censorship when they could be doing something useful to stop child pornography rings. Grrr.
Wasting time and money on internet censorship when they could be doing something useful to stop child pornography rings. Grrr.
believe it or not, similar things are going on in the U.S.
http://act.demandprogress.org/act/three_strikes/%3Freferring_akid%3Da1628175.127234.8yTOeR%26source%3Dauto-e
If you're in U.S. and disagrees with internet censorship, please sign the cause.
http://act.demandprogress.org/act/three_strikes/%3Freferring_akid%3Da1628175.127234.8yTOeR%26source%3Dauto-e
If you're in U.S. and disagrees with internet censorship, please sign the cause.
Why are people falling for the "blocking child porn" ruse again? this seems to be the "Clean Feed" all over again.
They aren't blocking "Child porn" they're blocking "RC content"... the new Mortal Kombat game is RC content...
Yes I realise It's only Telstra and Optus, but guess which ISPs have like 30% of the market each?
And guess who was locked into a 2 year contract with Optus a few months ago?
Fuck it, I'm moving to The Netherlands if this goes through -.-
They aren't blocking "Child porn" they're blocking "RC content"... the new Mortal Kombat game is RC content...
Yes I realise It's only Telstra and Optus, but guess which ISPs have like 30% of the market each?
And guess who was locked into a 2 year contract with Optus a few months ago?
Fuck it, I'm moving to The Netherlands if this goes through -.-
Telstra is already doing tests of it in my area i think, the internet in our area has gone down to near dialup, so i guess i can't get anything from stream.
Not sure what you have being reading about the Green party, but they are horrible. Have you seen some of their policies? (Banning fishing and hunting, banning all knives)Blitzwing said:
What they say on the news and stuff is all lies, and that is evident when you look at what they want to do. Part of the reason the labor party is so bad is because they do a lot of the the Greens want.
I don't mind them blocking child porn at all. What I do mind is the dangerous precedent this sets.
I'm hoping Anonymous does something about this. Don't know what exactly they could do, but they take net neutrality pretty seriously.
I'm hoping Anonymous does something about this. Don't know what exactly they could do, but they take net neutrality pretty seriously.
I understand the IDEA that censorship can protect, particularly since they think they're just going after child abuse and child porn, but where does it stop? Where do we draw the line at what we may censor to EVERYONE. When can we say NO ONE may view this material. Yeah, that's good for child porn, and no offense, but this is Austrailia. They won't stop there. They don't even have some ESRB rating we in The States have. I don't like this idea. The implications are too much. This is a BAD IDEA. If I was Austrailian, I'd switch providers from these four as soon as possible. Just my opinion.