Awful Characters Find Their Way Into ME3
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Remember that kid back on Omega? The one you can stop from joining the mercs hunting Arch Angel?RhombusHatesYou said:
He has the voice of Jenkins, so, if you let him live, he is still, sort of alive.
Im glad Ashley is back, now all I have to do is dump Miranda, Ask her kindly to NOT kill me, and then a romanic take me back moment...
i hated kaidan because he wouldnt shut the hell up about his goddamn implants- he whined more than jack and jack was captured and tortured as a child, but i really didn't mind ashley nearly so hard as everyone else did, at least she had a vague explanation for her xenophobia
The only one of those three who hasn't been confirmed in some form is Samara. Liara is a squaddie, Jack's VA posted on twitter about her return. Things are apparently not fine, for you. I am quite happy about it, on the other hand.Souplex said:
this. they are actually amazing characters after first glance.Irridium said:
someone posted somewhere defending ashley vs. all the praise tali gets and i can't be bothered to dig it up but it was an amazing breakdown of both characters,
and how is it lazy in any possible way? because they are using characters that were there at the beginning? wah?
I suppose it's unfortunate for you that you didn't design the game, otherwise you could only include those characters you liked.
I also suppose it's fortunate for all the fans who have been begging for this that you aren't in charge either. The last time I visited the Bioware forums those Ashley/Kaidan support groups were still going strong.
For me, as long as the game stacks up to the previous installments, I'll be happy, old characters or no. I liked and hated some of the additions to ME2. I'm sure I'll like and hate some of the characters for ME3. It isn't going to stop me from playing a great game though. That's the fantastic part of being able to choose which companions you bring with you on fights, and which you bother to talk to. It's easy enough not to ever talk to the ones you hate.
I also suppose it's fortunate for all the fans who have been begging for this that you aren't in charge either. The last time I visited the Bioware forums those Ashley/Kaidan support groups were still going strong.
For me, as long as the game stacks up to the previous installments, I'll be happy, old characters or no. I liked and hated some of the additions to ME2. I'm sure I'll like and hate some of the characters for ME3. It isn't going to stop me from playing a great game though. That's the fantastic part of being able to choose which companions you bring with you on fights, and which you bother to talk to. It's easy enough not to ever talk to the ones you hate.
Id much rather have Liara and Ashley/Kaidan than any of the garbage I got saddled with in ME2 (okay Samara and Mordin were good, but the rest were just singularly crap).
The truth is, ME2 fans were made aware of their precarious state long ago, before ME2 was even released.
Here is what Casey Hudson said on the absent ME1 squadmates from ME2 (Liara, Ashley, Kaidan):
"We actually want to make sure these characters survive the ME2 story, which ultimately is a suicide mission: some of your crew will almost certainly die. Some of the ME1 characters are back, and recruitable (more than you might think), and the ones that aren't still play an important role in the story and will be around for ME3 - which we can't say for the new characters."
In short, if you dont like that these ME1 characters who missed out on ME2 are now all but certain to return as key squadmates, tough shit.
Its what you get for expecting those expendable characters in ME2 to be automatically in your squad for ME3.
The truth is, ME2 fans were made aware of their precarious state long ago, before ME2 was even released.
Here is what Casey Hudson said on the absent ME1 squadmates from ME2 (Liara, Ashley, Kaidan):
"We actually want to make sure these characters survive the ME2 story, which ultimately is a suicide mission: some of your crew will almost certainly die. Some of the ME1 characters are back, and recruitable (more than you might think), and the ones that aren't still play an important role in the story and will be around for ME3 - which we can't say for the new characters."
In short, if you dont like that these ME1 characters who missed out on ME2 are now all but certain to return as key squadmates, tough shit.
Its what you get for expecting those expendable characters in ME2 to be automatically in your squad for ME3.
No worries. The GI artical says a few times over that all the big players *will* be back. ALL of them. Not that they'll all be squadmates. The mag seems to indicate THAT won't happen, as there'd be too many if you keep everyone alive. Tali will be there, in one way or another. And honestly, she's my Fav. side charater, her and Garrus, but, i never much cared for her as a squad mate. I prefrued using biotic teammates for warp bombing when i was a biotic, or Grunt/Garus for, well, just about any other class i'd play. Throw in Zehaad when i needed some disruptor ammo and didn't have it myself.adrian_exec said:
I'd be perfectly fine with Tali in a support role. So long as the love intrest angle is followed up. Which i'm completely 100% sure it will be. Bioware wouldn't want to deal with that level of nerd rage for it's fan base... (same deal with, well, prolly all romances, but essepcall tali / garrus. )
pick up a copy of the newest ME comic, about TIM and you'll see a turian female. Or google it. If your wondering. I'm a work so most photo sharing sights are blocked or i'd post one. (If i had one here that is. LOL)Souplex said:
Couldn't disagree more with the entire premise of the thread. There are plenty of Kaiden/Ashley fans.
And finally taking the time to actually investigate all of the characters dialogue trees and what not, I don't think Ash/Kaiden are as flat or annoying as people claim they are. All of the characters presented you a "front" that you found wasn't the whole picture when you talked to them more.
Wrex --> Krogan with a heart of Gold
Garrus --> Secret Renegade
Ash --> Tough girl recites poetry
Kaiden --> Secret bad ass killed people with bare hands
And so on, etc.
Maybe YOU still found them awful. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c]
Doesn't mean they shouldn't be in the game.
And finally taking the time to actually investigate all of the characters dialogue trees and what not, I don't think Ash/Kaiden are as flat or annoying as people claim they are. All of the characters presented you a "front" that you found wasn't the whole picture when you talked to them more.
Wrex --> Krogan with a heart of Gold
Garrus --> Secret Renegade
Ash --> Tough girl recites poetry
Kaiden --> Secret bad ass killed people with bare hands
And so on, etc.
Maybe YOU still found them awful. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c]
Doesn't mean they shouldn't be in the game.
But surely they would have some sort of feminine characteristics, like I remember Garrus discussing him getting it on with a fellow female Turian in his combat training, but if there was/were female Turains encountered, then I would expect they have some kind of feminine characteristic that defines them differently (different tone of voice, different body shape p.s. I don't need to see breasts the size of melons to realize it's a female but considering this bollywood look-a-like the OP has posted is Bioware's doing I'm glad I can be the sanctimonious little shit)Souplex said:
Don't be silly. Ashley wouldn't be caught dead at a Terra Firma rally.DeadSpaced said:
Anyway, I don't think they're really as bad as people say. Kaiden's just boring and people blow Ashley's patriotism way out of proportion (and ya, she's a little racist, but since it's against non-humans she's still less racist than a lot of people I know).
I'm more sad about Thane, he was awesome and he probably won't be in 3
Though Garrus and Wrex, hells yeah can't wait!
Though Garrus and Wrex, hells yeah can't wait!