Banned from the UK
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I live in the UK and we have a really bad record for kicking out people who promote hatred and violence. hence keeping them out of the UK in the first place seems like a good idea to me. As for the second comment, my response sort of follows on from this. Anyone who promotes unacceptable behaviour, as the BBC termed it (i.e. anything like promoting violence and hatred and inciting inter-community hatred and so on), should be banned from the country outright. Anyone in the UK doing it should either be deported, or if they're a UK national, jailed. Zero tolerance for those who have none. They aren't tolerant of other lifestyles and faiths and so on, so why should we tolerate them?
But I'm all for equality, as I'm up for skinning everyone alive. Equal dying rights for everybody.stinkychops said:
The only difference between this list and a very similar banned list held by the governments of almost every country out there is that it is public. So you have to think, why publicize it?
Cause they are just such honest and open politicians? NO
Cause they are trying to make public show against bigotry? ...maybe
OR
Cause they are trying to to set a precedent? hummm... Lets think about this. They could have kept the list private like most countries(they probably have a private list on top of this one), but they made it public. People would have been just as safe if they didn't make this big public display. The only tangible thing to come out of this is precedent for to exile anyone even public figures.
Cause they are just such honest and open politicians? NO
Cause they are trying to make public show against bigotry? ...maybe
OR
Cause they are trying to to set a precedent? hummm... Lets think about this. They could have kept the list private like most countries(they probably have a private list on top of this one), but they made it public. People would have been just as safe if they didn't make this big public display. The only tangible thing to come out of this is precedent for to exile anyone even public figures.
I've said it earlier but we have no constitution in the UK. A constitution doesn't equate freedom though. There are plenty of abuses in America over the last 80 years despite your constitution. Gitmo, extrordinary rendition, the patriot act, McCarthyism, the internment of citizens with Japanese heritage.Thanatos34 said:
There are plenty of stains in British history but constitution, or lack of it, has nothing to do with it.
If said people could cause problems or crimes to be comitted in this country or would otherwise disturb the peace. Yes. However it is closing down your options just like America won't listen to anybody that says "god doesn't exist" no matter what else they have to say.
Completely senseless.
Feminists. Don't say that you haven't noticed that females have greater privileges than males in this country. Feminists are only causing bloody problems now and are forcing their stupid and crazy views onto others - quot retraction of eroge game http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/05/08/feminist-group-japan-must-ban-adult-games/ ... http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/05/11/feminists-force-ban-of-rapelay/bjj hero said:
Completely senseless.
UK have tried to copy the US of A for the last ten years, so this wasn´t that surprising.
We have a guy in sweden that went to US for his honeymoon, but his father in law really hated him, so on the while the guy was in the air over the atlantic ocean the father in law phoned the customs and said he was a terrorist.
When the plane landed he ended up in custody and were shipped on the next plane back home, flagged as a terrorist, banned from the US for life.The father in law got picked up by the swedish police, got a fine, and had to call the US and say that it all were a prank.
But the US customs apparently cannot "un-terrorist" someone, so he is still banned for life.
In the UK they just greenlighted a project to expand the monitoring of all mails,sms, and phonecalls.
George Orwell - 1984 - That guy was an optimist.
We have a guy in sweden that went to US for his honeymoon, but his father in law really hated him, so on the while the guy was in the air over the atlantic ocean the father in law phoned the customs and said he was a terrorist.
When the plane landed he ended up in custody and were shipped on the next plane back home, flagged as a terrorist, banned from the US for life.The father in law got picked up by the swedish police, got a fine, and had to call the US and say that it all were a prank.
But the US customs apparently cannot "un-terrorist" someone, so he is still banned for life.
In the UK they just greenlighted a project to expand the monitoring of all mails,sms, and phonecalls.
George Orwell - 1984 - That guy was an optimist.
And Australia is a great place! If I incite hate speech and get deported, can I go to Australia? That'd be sweeeeeeeet...bjj hero said:
On topic, I don't know why this particular list was made public when every country has one, but, yeah, I do agree with the "setting precedent" thing, and that does scare me.
Everyone complaining about totalitarianism needs a history lesson. The very fact that you have access to a non-government controlled source of information (the internet) already means Britain is not totalitarian. Another hint is the fact that all of the people complaining about the government haven't been arrested yet. You think the British government overreacted? Fine, but don't start spouting conspiracy-theory level crap on the internet. Not everything the government does is an insidious plot to take control of the world.
A nation be definition is exclusive, So yes they have the right to ban whoever the they want if they are a democracy and the people don't like it then they can campaign against it. As to the other question I'm not actually sure if there is anyone I would want to ban from australia I mean if we dislike them then Australia is full of potentially dangerous animals 
We weren't allowed into Britain for a while but then we were blowing up shops and apartments so i can understand why.