Basement Dweller

[McMarbles]

I don't get it. Is it some kind of political fart?

Throwback to an old Critical Miss strip where the facehugger is giving a lesson in a Dating Seminar.

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EDIT: And then there was the cancellation of the 'Return of Kings' rallies in the news.

Oh, it's just do demonize some guy over his opinions. Ok.

I did get the air vents joke, but this one... Facehuggers do not distinguish between men and women and probably don't have gender as they're just larva and not a developed organism.

Yeah, forgive me if I don't lose any sleep over Mr. "Rape is cool" getting hurt fee-fees.

'Cuz, like, how dare we disapprove of someone for being a piece of human shit, right?

I mean, where is the line? Apparently not the KKK. They're just unfortunate souls with the unpopular opinion that skin color makes people inferior,right?

 

[Erttheking]

*SNIP*

To quote the Dude, "That's, like, your opinion, man.

Are you going to actually reply to what I'm saying or are you going to just give me these non-replies that come off like they're more dedicated to provoking me?

 

[Cecilo]

Great. So when are you going to create a comic about radical feminists?

"I feel that man-hating is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them. Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor"

"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig. Andrea Dworkin"

"The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men. Sharon Stone"

"The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race. Sally Miller Gearhart, in The Future ? If There Is One ? Is Female"

"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience. Catherine Comins"

And I will await the inevitable "Those aren't real feminists" and the "Those are just taken out of context" or "Those are just jokes", because only women get to decide who is for what when it suits them.

 

[McMarbles]

Man, all this straw being flung around. If I was a mule, I'd be eating like a king.

 

[Imp_Emissary]

EDIT: Removed because to be honest, getting into another moronic discussion about this shit is just stupid.

You don't listen very well it seems. Even to yourself.

Some guy with unpopular opinions is being shat on, that's enough explanation to me.

Do you feel the same way about the KKK?

Pretty much. Where I live people would label you "pro-fascist" and claim that you're advocating crucifixions of little boys if you publicly doubt that certain land is rightfully ours. Pretty much the same treatment you get for a wide range of other unpopular opinions. If there's some political shitting on going on - ok, I know what it is and I'm not interested.
If they do something criminal - I hope the police takes care of them. If they think something criminal, I'm kind of in the same boat since most of my opinions are outlawed by propaganda and aren't to be spoken of publicly. So no, I don't care if someone's opinion is wrong, even if they're really wrong.

Apparently you care enough to type a bunch of posts. ;p

If Roosh and the KKK get to voice their opinions, what's wrong with others voicing (or in the case of the comic Drawing) their opinions about them?
Seems pretty even to me.

 

[shirkbot]

Man, all this straw being flung around. If I was a mule, I'd be eating like a king.

Silly goose, mules don't eat straw

But seriously, I have no idea what's going on here, so that (horrible) joke's all I've got.

 

[the December King]

Great. So when are you going to create a comic about radical feminists?

"I feel that man-hating is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them. Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor"

"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig. Andrea Dworkin"

"The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men. Sharon Stone"

"The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race. Sally Miller Gearhart, in The Future ? If There Is One ? Is Female"

"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience. Catherine Comins"

And I will await the inevitable "Those aren't real feminists" and the "Those are just taken out of context" or "Those are just jokes", because only women get to decide who is for what when it suits them.

Well, this guy Roosh does seem to be a legitimate piece of shit- I can't fathom him claiming to be a rapist in any positive light, and the core of PUA stuff is very misguided and must be combated. But I do understand your frustrations.

 

[Erttheking]

Great. So when are you going to create a comic about radical feminists?

First of all, they did

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http://cdn.themis-media.com/media/global/images/library/deriv/586/586214.jpg

Second of all, this isn't an MRA/Feminist thing, Roosh actually dissociates himself from MRA.

This is a misogynist and rape advocate turning out to live in his mom's basement thing.

And it's HILARIOUS.

Plus demanding that someone mock someone on the opposite side of the spectrum out of some concept of fairness just feels forced.

 

[ObsidianJones_v1legacy]

Great. So when are you going to create a comic about radical feminists?

"I feel that man-hating is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them. Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor"

"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig. Andrea Dworkin"

"The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men. Sharon Stone"

"The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race. Sally Miller Gearhart, in The Future ? If There Is One ? Is Female"

"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience. Catherine Comins"

And I will await the inevitable "Those aren't real feminists" and the "Those are just taken out of context" or "Those are just jokes", because only women get to decide who is for what when it suits them.

Oh, no. They are real feminists.

And they are wrong.

Just like this guy is wrong.

There is a difference between the Followers of a Movement and the Fringes of a movement.

On the Base, Feminists want equal rights.

Then you go to the different levels of Feminists. Some think that the Patriarchy needs to be subverted for the Matriarchy. Some think all men are rapists waiting to happen. Some want equal pay for equal work (the fiends!). The message STARTED as Equal rights between Genders. And certain fractions took the idea and amped it up or dialed it down. With every movement.

I'll be very, very honest... I'm not really sure what the movement this Roosh guy is a subsect of. But I'm sure there are people more militant than he is. And I'm sure there are people in the same movement who thinks he is extreme.

So, my point is thus; Picking people who are inherently wrong to compare to another person who is inherently wrong doesn't disprove or prove anything. It just deadlocks the issue. To say all of a movement is encapsulated by those we vehemently abhor ignores the truth about humanity that there is no black or white, but every perceivable type of grey imaginable.

Brush off the loud haters, talk moderately with those who will listen, move on with life.

 

[RJ 17]

Man, all this straw being flung around. If I was a mule, I'd be eating like a king.

Silly goose, mules don't eat straw

But seriously, I have no idea what's going on here, so that (horrible) joke's all I've got.

Here's what I've gathered: some guy wanted to hold a rally/panel/get-together/seminar/whatever so that he could spread his belief that rape should be legal while in/on private property. Backlash ensued, naturally, and the rally/panel/get-together/seminar/whatever was cancelled.

Apparently this situation has caused everyone to once again shit their pants and start barking at one another.

 

[Frankster]

That baseball cap look gets me every time <3

Booking my next ticket to Facehugger's next conference ASAP.
Don't hate the playa', hate the game.

 

[The Almighty Aardvark]

Do you feel the same way about the KKK?

Bad choice, if you really wanted someone who people will hesitate to defend you should have gone with Anita Sarkeesian

 

[axlryder]

Man, all this straw being flung around. If I was a mule, I'd be eating like a king.

Silly goose, mules don't eat straw

But seriously, I have no idea what's going on here, so that (horrible) joke's all I've got.

Here's what I've gathered: some guy wanted to hold a rally/panel/get-together/seminar/whatever so that he could spread his belief that rape should be legal while in/on private property. Backlash ensued, naturally, and the rally/panel/get-together/seminar/whatever was cancelled.

Apparently this situation has caused everyone to once again shit their pants and start barking at one another.

That's partially the case from what I've gathered. He was holding meetings all over the world but there's no way he was actually going to be present at all of them (or any of them if he really expected this backlash), the reason for the meetings being some vague explanation along the lines of building a closer community (but nothing to indicate he'd be talking about the legalize rape thing). The media blew the whole thing out of proportion with equally vague, poorly cited articles that and led people to draw all sorts of wild conclusions and incited backlash from around the world along with possible threats of violence. Roosh, "fearing for the safety" of his site's members, cancelled the meetings. He was eventually found at his mother's where the daily mail said he was living, but then retracted the statement because they actually didn't know where he was living.

His official story is that he does not want to legalize rape and the article in question was satire, and the rape accusations are from an out of context passage in a book, and that much of what was described was fictionalized bravado that doesn't properly reflect the situation that occurred.

Common speculation is that he's backpedaling and full of shit. I personally think that, even if he were telling the truth, he still promotes rape with his pick up tactics and has likely employed them at some point, so he's still a rape-advocate and has likely raped someone himself. So basically the facehugger in the comic.

 

[megs1120]

Great. So when are you going to create a comic about radical feminists?

"I feel that man-hating is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them. Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor"

"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig. Andrea Dworkin"

"The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men. Sharon Stone"

"The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race. Sally Miller Gearhart, in The Future ? If There Is One ? Is Female"

"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience. Catherine Comins"

And I will await the inevitable "Those aren't real feminists" and the "Those are just taken out of context" or "Those are just jokes", because only women get to decide who is for what when it suits them.

To paraphrase the gamergaters, if you don't like it, make your own comic.

 

[the December King]

Spoiler: There was also the **** one with Ms. Dyed Hair.

It might seem weird, but seeing this one again makes me enjoy the Roosh comic a bit more... I'd prefer a more mocking look at radical feminism to balance out the PUA stuff, but at least there's something.

But it's okay, I'm beginning to think that maybe this comic just isn't for me. I'm a big fan of Erin Dies Alone so far, though (I think it's the continuous narrative and me getting in on the ground floor that I'm digging).

 

[Darth_Payn]

This is why I love the comments sections; you guys explain the jokes I miss in some of these strips. It would have helped if Grey and Corey put a few more tags under it, or a paragraph to explain who they're targeting.

 

[Shamanic Rhythm]

This Roosh is a stupid jerk.
But have you actually read his article about "make rape legal"?
If you really take this seriously, could you message me? Because I have some magic beans for you to sell...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal

Oh don't compare Johnathan Swift to this fucking hack. Johnathan Swift had a brain in his skull instead of extra bollocks. Johnathan Swift cared about the Irish and their plight, the point he was making was that the British was treating the Irish so poorly that they might as well just be eating babies, that is what he was satirizing. The joke moral of a Modest Proposal couldn't be farther away from what he actually thought.

Meanwhile Roosh's "Satire" of rape is suspiciously similar to his regular MO of "Women are inferior" and "women who have sex are only good as fleshlights" and "Democracy is bad because men don't have all the power anymore." All of which in articles posted on his website in the last month. So what the hell is he satirizing? That's the thing about satire. You have to actually satirize something. You can't just spew out whatever the hell you feel like and just say "Oh it was a joke," or "JK lol".

Oh and there's the fact that he only said it was satire after a massive backlash and even before that he told people not to get pissy over what he believed.

Thank you. If there's one thing that really grinds my gonads it's the "It was all satire har har don't you get it" excuse people trot out whenever they get hit with a backlash for being offensive. I don't really need to add anything because you've said it all.

 

[09philj]

Pedantry:

Facehuggers aren't male, they have ovipositers (oviposters?).

 

[mike1921]

Some want equal pay for equal work (the fiends!).

Which they pretty much have as much as men do. When you account for education, hours worked, career choices, experience, and the fact that men are more likely to want to negotiate (and plenty of men don't negotiate or suck at negotiating too) the pay gap shrinks into nothing. This is why feminist rhetoric is sort of turning to acknowledge that and saying "Oh, well WHY do women choose lower paying professions" (not like a species with sexual dimorphism will have tendencies for different preferences).

I remember in my human sexuality class (it was either that or gym) my professor introduced it as a social justice class but she still a month in talked about how at least part of the pay gap can be blamed on women for not negotiating, related a story where her friend lost $15k a year because she just took the first offer on the table.

The message STARTED as Equal rights between Genders. And certain fractions took the idea and amped it up or dialed it down. With every movement.

The problem is the issues at this point are subtle yet when you label yourself a feminist you are already using gender-biased language , FEMinist. The kind of people who have properly dialed down their rhetoric and points to be fitting for the times don't call themselves feminists much anymore.


So you have people that see that the total number of woman workers in the country made 77% of the total number of male workers and call that the patriarchy, sometimes even pretending that is for equal work, when the real gap for equal work is 7% (which is accounted for by the difference in negotiations).

 

[Leg End]

Again, literally who? How the hell did this guy and his site get so stupidly popular? I keep thinking of Rooks and Kings every time someone mentions it.

So which is actually the second part? The advocating rape bit? Because, and maybe it's just different and awful wherever you live, but getting women drunk for the express purpose of diminishing their judgment so that they'll have sex with you is considered rape. And that just so happens to be what he advocates.

I gotta ask for source on that because I'm looking everywhere and all I'm hearing is accusations and not much in the way of a source that doesn't involve parroting another source saying the same thing with no direct evidence.