Battlefield 3 on Xbox Looks Awful Without HD Texture Pack

[octafish]

I put this question forward, like many before me: What's the fucking point of the non-HD textures??

So you can play the game with the limited RAM available to an XBOX 360. DVDs are neither large enough nor fast enough to constantly be acting as a secondary buffer, the HDD is...barely. Maybe it should have been a PS3 and PC exclusive?

I'll admit it looks pretty bad without the HD textures, almost as bad as those pre-rendered cutscenes from Deus Ex: Human Revolutions. It still looks better than Saints Row 2 ever did on PC.

snip. What's with the 2 day release delay for us Aussies? Wish I was playing right NOW.

They hate us because we are beautiful.

 

[Elijin]

I dont understand why the PC faction uses the fact you have to install BF3 to consoles to get the best performance, as a sticking point for why PC's are better.

I mean like, geez, what kind of backwards system actually has to install programs in order to get the best performance out of.....oh wait.....

Note Im not taking a side here, Im just pointing out the sheer stupidity of the argument.

 

[dessertmonkeyjk]

So... is this news or what? It's a compensation package for lack of space like it is when you install the game to your hard drive.

Yes, the texture pack does come on a separate disc. It would be idiotic to think everyone has an internet connection or in the long term it won't be accessible anymore. If you didn't get it then you been jipped aka ripped off.

 

[Schmittler]

"Fuzzy tyres".

I believe you meant "tires" good sir.

OT: This looks pretty bad, but CoD's textures don't look fantastic either. At least there is the HD Texture Pack.

"Tyre" is the English way of spelling Tire. As in, they spell it that way in England.

Really? Interesting. I had even googled it to make sure I didn't miss out on something.

You learn something new every day.

Thanks for the correction, I apologize for probably sounding like a pretentious American dick !

 

[Balobo]

Though, that's probably what happens when you design a console game using the PC as your lead platform.

lol yes we should just have shit graphics on ALL platforms. Brilliant idea!

 

[scorch 13]

YES!!!They mentioned wikigameguides.Dan and John are getting places.

 

[Frank_Sinatra_]

And no, I will not buy a bigger one, because it will be a cold day in hell when I pay $100 for a 120gb 360 hard drive when I can buy a 1tb hard drive for my PC for $60.

*looks at 1TB HDD in PS3*
Awwwww Yeahhhhhh

I still cannot for the life of me understand why they didn't just have that on the game disc in the first place.
Could the DVD not hold that extra 1.5GB?

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

I don't understand why they even have these two different texture packs. Why not have it default for the game?

Because Xbox('s?)(es?) use DVD's. This isn't a problem for a PC game, where you install the data on your 2TB HDD anyway. But because of the nature of consoles, it generally has to be cut down.

 

[Rowski]

Yes, the texture pack does come on a separate disc. (not just download)

Thanks for confirmation, they had me worried for a sec there. As far as I can tell from other forums, the texture pack runs fine from a USB stick as well, with no harddrive necessary. I haven't done it myself, but all signs so far point to this being true. 2GB sticks are under $5. 16GB sticks are $23 at Australia Post. Don't waste your money on an overpriced drive just for this!

snip. What's with the 2 day release delay for us Aussies? Wish I was playing right NOW.

They hate us because we are beautiful.

Well that makes sense, along with the "nice beaches" tax. 7 hrs to go!

 

[arealperson]

I don't understand why they even have these two different texture packs. Why not have it default for the game?

Because Xbox('s?)(es?) use DVD's. This isn't a problem for a PC game, where you install the data on your 2TB HDD anyway. But because of the nature of consoles, it generally has to be cut down.

The issue is that Microsoft releases an Arcade model without a hard-drive, the PS3 would have the same issue if it didn't have a mandatory (on most titles) install (and mandatory minimum 20GB hard-drive).

-snip .

Especially when your measuring stick is Call of Duty.

There's no need to bullshit COD vs Battlefield on this matter. You can see the difference even between DICE games, if you're willing to look. But, because you brought up COD, I'll provide you a comparison between the two (YouTube will provide you with the 720p and full-screen view with a double click):

And just to completely convince you, Mirror's Edge:


Now, which of these have the least readable texture (in-game assets (NOT HUDs) with words on them), not including BF3's HD pack (because the other games didn't need one)? This isn't a trick question, just answer it honestly.

 

[vermin_]

A brand new awesome looking engine is looking bad on a milion year old platform?!

WHAT WITCHERY IS THIS?!

OT: PC ftw, hyuk hyuk.

 

[captaincabbage]

I put this question forward, like many before me: What's the fucking point of the non-HD textures??

So you can play the game with the limited RAM available to an XBOX 360. DVDs are neither large enough nor fast enough to constantly be acting as a secondary buffer, the HDD is...barely. Maybe it should have been a PS3 and PC exclusive?

I see. My question now is why did they do the same thing on the PS3? PS3s are more than capable of handling BF3, the beta alone was fantastic visually and ran as smooth as butter.

Either way, it looks like I'm gonna have to save up and get one of these bad boys.

Spoiler

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

I don't understand why they even have these two different texture packs. Why not have it default for the game?

Because Xbox('s?)(es?) use DVD's. This isn't a problem for a PC game, where you install the data on your 2TB HDD anyway. But because of the nature of consoles, it generally has to be cut down.

The issue is that Microsoft releases an Arcade model without a hard-drive, the PS3 would have the same issue if it didn't have a mandatory (on most titles) install (and mandatory minimum 20GB hard-drive).

DVD storage is still a major problem. Especially when you're releasing a multiplayer game on a platform with a small HDD.

Even if they didn't have the Arcade model, the relatively small HDD's of Xbox('s?)(es?) would still prevent textures from being the ridicu-res a lot of the time.

 

[arealperson]

I don't understand why they even have these two different texture packs. Why not have it default for the game?

Because Xbox('s?)(es?) use DVD's. This isn't a problem for a PC game, where you install the data on your 2TB HDD anyway. But because of the nature of consoles, it generally has to be cut down.

The issue is that Microsoft releases an Arcade model without a hard-drive, the PS3 would have the same issue if it didn't have a mandatory (on most titles) install (and mandatory minimum 20GB hard-drive).

DVD storage is still a major problem. Especially when you're releasing a multiplayer game on a platform with a small HDD.

Even if they didn't have the Arcade model, the relatively small HDD's of Xbox('s?)(es?) would still prevent textures from being the ridicu-res a lot of the time.

Well, I have a 250 GB model, so I have no complaints as to the size, as long as developers are willing to make use of it once in a while.  Though there was a 4 GB model, (which would be capable for this game) but I would still prefer 60 GB were the minimum.  Also, if I remember correctly, doesn't BF3 have its multi-player on a separate disc already?  Meaning that you could just sell the single player on if you wanted.  Win-win?

I don't completely disagree the storage is a problem? but the mitigation that a harddrive creates means it should be rather insignificant.

 

[leonhax]

PC master race.. shine on for we are just amazing

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

I don't understand why they even have these two different texture packs. Why not have it default for the game?

Because Xbox('s?)(es?) use DVD's. This isn't a problem for a PC game, where you install the data on your 2TB HDD anyway. But because of the nature of consoles, it generally has to be cut down.

The issue is that Microsoft releases an Arcade model without a hard-drive, the PS3 would have the same issue if it didn't have a mandatory (on most titles) install (and mandatory minimum 20GB hard-drive).

DVD storage is still a major problem. Especially when you're releasing a multiplayer game on a platform with a small HDD.

Even if they didn't have the Arcade model, the relatively small HDD's of Xbox('s?)(es?) would still prevent textures from being the ridicu-res a lot of the time.

Well, I have a 250 GB model, so I have no complaints as to the size, as long as developers are willing to make use of it once in a while.  Though there was a 4 GB model, (which would be capable for this game) but I would still prefer 60 GB were the minimum.  Also, if I remember correctly, doesn't BF3 have its multi-player on a separate disc already?  Meaning that you could just sell the single player on if you wanted.  Win-win?

I don't completely disagree the storage is a problem? but the mitigation that a harddrive creates means it should be rather insignificant.

Sure, but then if you just start installing games on your console to get the higher resolution graphics, shouldn't you just buy a PC instead?

 

[arealperson]

I don't understand why they even have these two different texture packs. Why not have it default for the game?

Because Xbox('s?)(es?) use DVD's. This isn't a problem for a PC game, where you install the data on your 2TB HDD anyway. But because of the nature of consoles, it generally has to be cut down.

The issue is that Microsoft releases an Arcade model without a hard-drive, the PS3 would have the same issue if it didn't have a mandatory (on most titles) install (and mandatory minimum 20GB hard-drive).

DVD storage is still a major problem. Especially when you're releasing a multiplayer game on a platform with a small HDD.

Even if they didn't have the Arcade model, the relatively small HDD's of Xbox('s?)(es?) would still prevent textures from being the ridicu-res a lot of the time.

Well, I have a 250 GB model, so I have no complaints as to the size, as long as developers are willing to make use of it once in a while.  Though there was a 4 GB model, (which would be capable for this game) but I would still prefer 60 GB were the minimum.  Also, if I remember correctly, doesn't BF3 have its multi-player on a separate disc already?  Meaning that you could just sell the single player on if you wanted.  Win-win?

I don't completely disagree the storage is a problem? but the mitigation that a harddrive creates means it should be rather insignificant.

Sure, but then if you just start installing games on your console to get the higher resolution graphics, shouldn't you just buy a PC instead?

Haha, If I had another grand or two to spare sure (I'm aware you can get them somewhat cheaper). But if my console can offer better, why should I not expect that?

 

[Doclector]

Though, that's probably what happens when you design a console game using the PC as your lead platform [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/109304-DICE-Battlefield-3-Looks-Better-on-Consoles-Because-Were-Making-it-for-PC].

Grrrr Here I was getting ready to bash the game again, but this happens so rarely that I have to back off a bit. So sad.

So I'll just say this: Why isn't the HD pack mandatory? It's not like you have to compensate for the Xboxes having differing powers, they're all the same.

because dvds don't hold enough data.

Face it this is xbox being outdated nothing more.

Well, being honest, the PS3 will soon become outdated as well. The end of this generation seems nigh.

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

I don't understand why they even have these two different texture packs. Why not have it default for the game?

Because Xbox('s?)(es?) use DVD's. This isn't a problem for a PC game, where you install the data on your 2TB HDD anyway. But because of the nature of consoles, it generally has to be cut down.

The issue is that Microsoft releases an Arcade model without a hard-drive, the PS3 would have the same issue if it didn't have a mandatory (on most titles) install (and mandatory minimum 20GB hard-drive).

DVD storage is still a major problem. Especially when you're releasing a multiplayer game on a platform with a small HDD.

Even if they didn't have the Arcade model, the relatively small HDD's of Xbox('s?)(es?) would still prevent textures from being the ridicu-res a lot of the time.

Well, I have a 250 GB model, so I have no complaints as to the size, as long as developers are willing to make use of it once in a while.  Though there was a 4 GB model, (which would be capable for this game) but I would still prefer 60 GB were the minimum.  Also, if I remember correctly, doesn't BF3 have its multi-player on a separate disc already?  Meaning that you could just sell the single player on if you wanted.  Win-win?

I don't completely disagree the storage is a problem? but the mitigation that a harddrive creates means it should be rather insignificant.

Sure, but then if you just start installing games on your console to get the higher resolution graphics, shouldn't you just buy a PC instead?

Haha, If I had another grand or two to spare sure (I'm aware you can get them somewhat cheaper). But if my console can offer better, why should I not expect that?

What if every game you bought did this? You're going to run out of space pretty quickly unless you uninstall each time, and if you decide to play the game again, have fun re-downloading that pack.