Battlefield 4 Won't Support Mods

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Saulkar said:
Not only does this game already support modding in its ALPHA state but with the BETA coming out on the 25th of this month having all new features ready to be horribly mucked around with by me; Arma 3 has already won.

It will be the Sony of this FPS/Mil-Sim generation!
Except Battlefield isn't a mil-sim. Never has been. It's a spectacle arcade shooter with some pseudo realism elements. Completely different kettle of fish.


I lol'd at the developers piss poor excuse. I would respect them more if they cut the bullshit and just admitted that they won't allow mods so they can shovel DLC down people's throats and keep up a successful yearly release cycle of new battlefield games. And no, it has absolutely nothing to do with hacking or 'protecting the code'. There was plenty of hackers in BF3, hell, they were popping up in the beta.

The biggest shame though, and something publishers/developers STILL don't get, is that modding not only acts as an informal form of research and development of ideas, mechanics and settings. It also COMPLIMENTS the DLC releases and encourages people to buy them FOR the mods.

Day Z, classic example. People didn't even know what ARMA was until Day Z launched it to the top of the steam charts.

Or look at Skyrim. I wonder how many people actually bought the game and the overpriced DLC solely for the awesome mods that came out for it? I know I did.

And don't even get me started on the damage that's been done to the competitive scene because of this policy. BF2 went strong for years. Bad Company 2 and BF3 barely lasted a few months of activity before people began to get fed up with all the rubbish in the game that couldn't be changed or removed.
 

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ron1n said:
Except Battlefield isn't a mil-sim.
I will just simply say that I wrote my comment in apathy and a genuine excitement for Arma 3. I know the difference between the two but lacked the care to articulate my statement any further or to solidify/justify its validity.

Somewhat unrelated, when a friend asks me which of X I like better I will purposefully start an all out argument defending a completely unrelated product that has nothing to do with the others.

Yo?
Sup?
Which is better? A PS4 or Xbone?
A leg rasor!
That is not a game console...
DON"T FUCKING DIS SMOOTH ARMPITS...


Oh God I need to get to bed!
 

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Wait, so they don't want people to buy the game? Aren't they trying to make money? Why are they trying to chase off customers with a broom?

Modding is essentially the reason I turned to PC gaming so this is an obvious deal breaker.
 

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Steven Bogos said:
After all, games like Natural Selection 2 [http://www.teamfortress.com/], which are also team-based shooters, offer complete mod support.
err... games that originally were mods probably aren't the best example to use there.
 

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Anyone else think that everything went downhill after Bad Company 2? I'm going to blame EA for this (because it's easy). Fuck off EA!
 

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Your support or lack of irrelevant is Karl, the mods will come whether you want them to or not, just like three and Bad Company 2. Can't stop the modders, the more you try the more they'll mod.
 

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Pretty sure Bad Company didn't support mods, and pretty sure Bad Company 2 didn't support mods. BF3 doesn't support mods, and now BF4 isn't going to support mods.

How are we surprised by this? Feels like a lot of grasping at straws to get a 'news' story together.
 

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Karathos said:
Pretty sure Bad Company didn't support mods, and pretty sure Bad Company 2 didn't support mods. BF3 doesn't support mods, and now BF4 isn't going to support mods.

How are we surprised by this? Feels like a lot of grasping at straws to get a 'news' story together.
It sort of is, but people have wanted a moddable Battlefield game for a while and EA seems to completely ignore them, claiming they will look into it later down the road with each new release. Personally, I've never ran any of their games on PC ever since Origin became a required download for them.
 

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RhombusHatesYou said:
Steven Bogos said:
After all, games like Natural Selection 2 [http://www.teamfortress.com/], which are also team-based shooters, offer complete mod support.
err... games that originally were mods probably aren't the best example to use there.
Why not? They are probably the best examples. If it wasn't for mod support, we wouldn't even have these games in the first place!

But sure. How about Starcraft II and its custom maps? Skyrim and its thousands of user mods? Fallout: New Vegas?
 

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It's not just DICE. EA pretty much has a "no modding" policy, which they enforce with Origin perma-bans.

After all, why make the game more entertaining for free when you can pay for the privilege through DLC.
 

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I'm more concerned if you have to use that god awful web browser thing for BF4. Most stupid idea ever, made worse at launch when you have to be ingame and alive to change anything in the menu.

Also who ever mentioned modding community will lead to hacks/exploits, well you certainly haven't been playing on BF3 multiplayer for long, hacks are doing well in the absence of mods.
 

Zac Jovanovic

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I can live without Mods, what I can't live with is a game that is a glitchy, laggy piece of shit. But hey, it looks real pretty.

And now there's the new Battlefront game... This is gonna be the biggest "Be careful what you wish for..." moment in a long time I fear. They said DICE is gonna put its flavor on it, too bad DICE's flavor lately leaves a vile acidic aftertaste.
 

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I honestly don't know if I mind.

Sure, it's a shame people can't make their own maps (about the only thing I would care about) but I like BF3 and what I've seen and heard so far of Bf4 it's an improvement.