Battlefield 4 Won't Support Mods

[Saulkar]

Except Battlefield isn't a mil-sim.

I will just simply say that I wrote my comment in apathy and a genuine excitement for Arma 3. I know the difference between the two but lacked the care to articulate my statement any further or to solidify/justify its validity.

Somewhat unrelated, when a friend asks me which of X I like better I will purposefully start an all out argument defending a completely unrelated product that has nothing to do with the others.

Yo?
Sup?
Which is better? A PS4 or Xbone?
A leg rasor!
That is not a game console...
DON"T FUCKING DIS SMOOTH ARMPITS...


Oh God I need to get to bed!

 

[Olas]

Wait, so they don't want people to buy the game? Aren't they trying to make money? Why are they trying to chase off customers with a broom?

Modding is essentially the reason I turned to PC gaming so this is an obvious deal breaker.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

After all, games like Natural Selection 2 [http://www.teamfortress.com/], which are also team-based shooters, offer complete mod support.

err... games that originally were mods probably aren't the best example to use there.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Of course it won't support mods, because of a) DLCs and b) sequels.

Or combining the worst into DLCquels...

 

[alphamalet]

Anyone else think that everything went downhill after Bad Company 2? I'm going to blame EA for this (because it's easy). Fuck off EA!

 

[fix-the-spade]

Your support or lack of irrelevant is Karl, the mods will come whether you want them to or not, just like three and Bad Company 2. Can't stop the modders, the more you try the more they'll mod.

 

[Karathos]

Pretty sure Bad Company didn't support mods, and pretty sure Bad Company 2 didn't support mods. BF3 doesn't support mods, and now BF4 isn't going to support mods.

How are we surprised by this? Feels like a lot of grasping at straws to get a 'news' story together.

 

[Colt47]

Pretty sure Bad Company didn't support mods, and pretty sure Bad Company 2 didn't support mods. BF3 doesn't support mods, and now BF4 isn't going to support mods.

How are we surprised by this? Feels like a lot of grasping at straws to get a 'news' story together.

It sort of is, but people have wanted a moddable Battlefield game for a while and EA seems to completely ignore them, claiming they will look into it later down the road with each new release. Personally, I've never ran any of their games on PC ever since Origin became a required download for them.

 

[Steven Bogos]

After all, games like Natural Selection 2 [http://www.teamfortress.com/], which are also team-based shooters, offer complete mod support.

err... games that originally were mods probably aren't the best example to use there.

Why not? They are probably the best examples. If it wasn't for mod support, we wouldn't even have these games in the first place!

But sure. How about Starcraft II and its custom maps? Skyrim and its thousands of user mods? Fallout: New Vegas?

 

[idarkphoenixi]

It's not just DICE. EA pretty much has a "no modding" policy, which they enforce with Origin perma-bans.

After all, why make the game more entertaining for free when you can pay for the privilege through DLC.

 

[Aircross]

No mod support?

That's okay. Modders will still figure out how to mod the game.

 

[BakedZnake]

I'm more concerned if you have to use that god awful web browser thing for BF4. Most stupid idea ever, made worse at launch when you have to be ingame and alive to change anything in the menu.

Also who ever mentioned modding community will lead to hacks/exploits, well you certainly haven't been playing on BF3 multiplayer for long, hacks are doing well in the absence of mods.

 

[Zac Jovanovic]

I can live without Mods, what I can't live with is a game that is a glitchy, laggy piece of shit. But hey, it looks real pretty.

And now there's the new Battlefront game... This is gonna be the biggest "Be careful what you wish for..." moment in a long time I fear. They said DICE is gonna put its flavor on it, too bad DICE's flavor lately leaves a vile acidic aftertaste.

 

[Thedutchjelle]

I honestly don't know if I mind.

Sure, it's a shame people can't make their own maps (about the only thing I would care about) but I like BF3 and what I've seen and heard so far of Bf4 it's an improvement.

 

[DSK-]

Not surprising in the least. Bad Company 2 for PC didn't have mod tools, although I've heard of people forcibly modding the game. It's sad, really. BF1942 and BF2 had a ridiculous mod following along with COD4.

It's disappointing because then community-made competitive mods could have been created

I hate walled garden games

 

[Akisa]

Yeah looks like I won't support Battlefield 4 than.

 

[nvzboy]

I'm not a real fan of mods myself. But I do expect the game to be in working order and bug-free. A lot of times great mods for games were mods that solved problems that were present in the game. If DICE manage to deliver a working product with no game-breaking faults I think we can live on well without mods. That is IF they manage to make the game bug-free.

 

[Sectan]

I really feel like this is their way to protect their own DLC. If modders are making incredible maps and single player levels, why would someone pay EA for their stuff?

 

[Oskuro]

Let's recap:

·Battlefield 1942 comes out to a general 'meh' from the audience, and horrible bugs

·A Modding group creates Desert Combat and Bf1942's popularity skyrockets

·Battlefield Vietnam comes out to a general 'we're having more fun with Desert Combat', and horrible bugs game design.

·DICE/EA buy out the Desert Combat studio so they can "help" with BF2 and the first console port.

·Battlefied 2 comes out to a general 'Desert Combat did it first, and bigger, and had coop, but it's OK'

·DICE/EA shuts down Trauma (the Desert Combat guys)

·Battlefield 2142 comes out to a general 'Sure, mechas and titans, what else you got?'

·Battlefield 3 comes out... and Execs wonder why there are still Desert Combat servers out there.


Ok, this is a silly oversimplification, but I'm guessing in general they don't want mods so they can properly plan the "shelf life" of a game. Wouldn't want people to still be playing BF(n-1) when BF comes out!

 

[Colt47]

Pretty sure Bad Company didn't support mods, and pretty sure Bad Company 2 didn't support mods. BF3 doesn't support mods, and now BF4 isn't going to support mods.

How are we surprised by this? Feels like a lot of grasping at straws to get a 'news' story together.

It sort of is, but people have wanted a moddable Battlefield game for a while and EA seems to completely ignore them, claiming they will look into it later down the road with each new release. Personally, I've never ran any of their games on PC ever since Origin became a required download for them.

honestly the only mod I ever liked for a Battlefield game was the Star Wars mod for Battlefield 2.

everything else just added new maps or weapons, they could hardly be called a mod. More like an item pack. Very few actually added game assets to the mix, and the number of Total Conversions was in the amazing single digits.


I remember the days when mods actually changed gameplay, like turning Quake 3 Arena into a tactical squad based shooter akin to Counterstrike.

There were tons of good mods for the original Unreal Tournament and 2k4 as well. Monster Madness was one of my favorites when I played 2k4 and they even had versions out there that included RPG leveling systems. There was also Unreal Forever, and the Chaos mod.

Personally, I think the military shooter genre is rather dull and just doesn't offer a lot of incentive to get creative with mods.