Seriously? You obviously don't know jack shit about international politics if you can expect someone to give you an explanation in a forum post. The bottom line is, war is profitable for a lot of people.Mindless said:
Battlefield 4's a "New Form of Cultural Aggression", Says Chinese State Media
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The Chinese government cannot and does not consider this to be "just" a video game. They control all media very tightly in China, and they assume that the US does the same. Therefore, they assume that the US government specifically gave approval to this project and that it is part of a ploy to "turn the world against China".
When you're paranoid, you inevitably see everything has being a plot against you. Not that China doesn't have reason to be paranoid, but come on, Battlefield 4 isn't a US-government produced propaganda piece. It's an EA produced propaganda piece.
Besides, in China you have games where you go on rampages against the Japanese, killing them by the dozens. This is somewhat understandable, if not excusable, by looking at their history, but it's a bit rich for China to call the West "jingoistic" when a good portion of its state-run newspapers called for out-and-out war against Japan just last year (of course the Chinese government were not considering attacking Japan, but they told their newspapers to drive up the Anti-Japan sentiment).
When you're paranoid, you inevitably see everything has being a plot against you. Not that China doesn't have reason to be paranoid, but come on, Battlefield 4 isn't a US-government produced propaganda piece. It's an EA produced propaganda piece.
Besides, in China you have games where you go on rampages against the Japanese, killing them by the dozens. This is somewhat understandable, if not excusable, by looking at their history, but it's a bit rich for China to call the West "jingoistic" when a good portion of its state-run newspapers called for out-and-out war against Japan just last year (of course the Chinese government were not considering attacking Japan, but they told their newspapers to drive up the Anti-Japan sentiment).
China invaded Tibet....Adam Jensen said:
But you are right in that China rarely invades countries in modern times. In the past it was a different story - they invaded Vietnam countless times (the Vietnamese always managed to fight them off eventually) as well as Korea. China isn't a nice place and while I don't think they are into invasion, that may be due to the fact that their navy is incapable of invading at the moment (that will change in the next 20 or so years).
America is not a nice country, but I think you are being a bit naive if you think they are the only bad guy. All nations are selfish. Russia used to invade heaps of countries when it had the military power and the will to do so. France, Germany, the UK and even little old Belgium used to have colonies less than 100 years ago. Invasion and conquest are not an exclusively American thing by any means and I am not too optimistic that China, once it fully achieves superpower status (and it will) and gains a Blue-Sea Capable Fleet, will not invade as well under the guise of "national" security. They're already behaving aggressively towards some of their neighbors like Vietnam and the Philippines, claiming vast, vast, VAST swarths of ocean right up to the Philippines as its exclusive territority merely because a few islands it claims to own are near the Philippines. That would be like the US claiming all the pacific ocean up to Hawaii as being "it's waters".
Be wary of China. They have jingoists and xenophobes too. During the tensions with Japan last year, you had a Chinese university openly exhort its students to come up with a weapon more powerful than a nuclear bomb to "finish off" Japan for good.
Sure, the US has jingoists. Don't for one minute think China does not. Be wary of the US. But be wary of China. Be wary of any large, powerful country.
OK. Not knowing anything about international politics is one thing. But you should at least be familiar with current events. The warmongers are trying as hard as they can to light the fuse that would lead to the war in Iran. It's actually happening as we speak. But you can't just wake up one day and decide to invade. It's a long con.Mindless said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/19/iran-sanctions-bill_n_4472439.html
Right wing warmongers (when I say right wing, I don't necessarily mean Republicans. There are right wing politicians disguised as Democrats as well) want that war to happen. They don't want negotiations. And not just for oil either. A lot of people would benefit from it. Private contractors, weapon manufacturers, corporate shills and all kinds of other psychos.
That 1960's Wolfenstein with giant nazi robots sure does look agreeable after all.[footnote]I'm actually looking forward to it quite a lot[/footnote]martyrdrebel27 said:
I agree though, we need more nazis of various sorts in gaems these days. Who doesn't like shooting nazis? I mean they're nazis.
As long as the Chinese Government thinks its a very good idea to shoot people that are of a different opinion they can - and excuse me - go and fuck themselfs, and furthermore have no right to complain for being "demonized" which is not even true. China is doing pretty much what can be considered a very solid turn towards what Video-Games in the recent years were making up, and i would worry more about my country doing a marathon-run to the ethics of WW2-Era-Germany than what Electronic Arts makes out of it. No offense to the chinese people themselfs in the slightest, trust me, but i think those people who feel insulted by this should worry about more serious things than "Duh vidyagarmz" there. And if they think they don't need to, there is a whole different set of problems to be taken care of anyway.
edit: Of course there are other countries this greatly applies to... And i admit im kind of curious also what american people would say to a game focusing about Country-X as "The good guys" fighting against America as a conquering, self-righteous world-police, which is the image that came up quite a bit over the last 20 years (i dont say it is like this but... let's be serious; It's not as far off either to depict them as that with a less diplomatic agenda, going for current allies in a game with military force).
edit: Of course there are other countries this greatly applies to... And i admit im kind of curious also what american people would say to a game focusing about Country-X as "The good guys" fighting against America as a conquering, self-righteous world-police, which is the image that came up quite a bit over the last 20 years (i dont say it is like this but... let's be serious; It's not as far off either to depict them as that with a less diplomatic agenda, going for current allies in a game with military force).
If it helps, I'm really looking frward to playing as the Chinese when I finally get Battlefield 4. I'll have no problem shooting Americans; after all, it's just a game, and I'm playing as a soldier who just wants to get home to his family. But if China wants to get angry about it, I guess that's their right.
You know what we need? A modern military COMEDY shooter. Just have it be like Team America: The Game. Have the main bad guy be a the son of Nazi and a member of Squad 731, who was trained in North Korea (where (s)he lost an eye) and rose through the ranks of the KGB until (s)he betrayed them to turn to the CIA (which resulted in the loss of his/her other eye, now uses a black visor), only to work assasinating civil rights activists. (S)He's also a distant cousin of Jeff Dunham or something. Also has a skin made of asbestos.
Meh, to all those that say we need an "America is the bad guys" Game. We really don't. The internet does that every single day.
Based on what the internet thinks of America, we are quite literally hell on earth, the worst country to ever exist, possibly the belated reincarnation of Hitler.
Based on what the internet thinks of America, we are quite literally hell on earth, the worst country to ever exist, possibly the belated reincarnation of Hitler.
Fuck it, have the next Battlefield be a second American Civil War.
I've been waiting for aliens since Battlefield 2.
I've been waiting for aliens since Battlefield 2.
China didn't ban Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising even though it had the Chinese as the enemy. It actually isn't banned in China, because the developers did their research and depicted the PLA accurately.Oskuro said: