Bayonetta 2 Coming Exclusively to Wii U

[AzrealMaximillion]

A "free" IP anyone can enjoy? Please, enlighten me how a Wii/Steam gamer like myself can get my hands on Bayonetta without forking over a couple Benjamin for a 360 or PS3 to play it.

hat actually works against your argument and Nintendo's marketing here. You would need to play the first game (it actually has a damn good story and kinda needs to be played for context) so Nintendo is not looking at you as a potential buyer. They're hoping to get the people who wanted more hardcore games from Nintendo consoles but chose a stupid way of doing it. Forcing people to buy a console for ONE sequel isn't smart. It hurts the chances of sales coming from the people who never played the first game due to not owning a PS3/360.

Or does complaining about buying a whole new system for one game only apply in the other direction?

It stupid in both directions because either way your forcing fans of the original to buy a new console to continue the story, or foring future Wii U owners who don't have a PS3/360 to buy one of those to play the original game. Its a lose lose.

And Nintendo making decent, original content? Maybe you should stop taking Yahtzee as the @#$!ing gospel and try playing a few first-party Nintendo games.

Yahtzee wasn't mentioned at all in this thread until now. YOU just have a chip on your shoulder. It seems you think that ONLY Yahtzee has criticisms of Nintendo. How deluded.

Kid Icarus: Uprising? Game of 2012.

In your opinion. But not an original IP as @GenGenners was talking about. Most people don't like being in pain trying to play video games. Maybe you're a masochist, maybe not but that games control scheme causes pain. And it was also very repetitive.

The Metroid Prime games? With Wii controls, best console FPSes out there.

Because your word is fact right? There are plenty of FPSes that are considered better than the Metroid Prime ones. Like Counter Strike, TF2, Arma, Serious Sam, Painkiller, Metro 2033 and so on.

The Galaxy games?

You mean Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Galaxy Again? What about them?

Yeah, they're the next Mario game but why don't you actually crack 'em open and play them and you'll find they're not the same game you've been playing since '85.

No, but one could argue that they are the same game we've been playing since the N64.SMG 2 was almost the same game as the original SMG, even some of the bosses were the same.

I'm sick of "gamers" constantly bashing Nintendo for supposedly not bringing out the good stuff while completely dismissing their entire first-party stable as "kiddy rehashes."

And I'm sick of diehard fans coming on to these forums and raging about ANY Nintendo criticism. I'm also sick of Olivia Munn not wanting to sleep with me but I'll live.

And yet six years later, you people still just cannot comprehend why Nintendo said "screw these bitchy mother@#$!ers, let's go find someone else" and made the Wii.

This last sentence doesn't even make sense.

What "bitchy motherfuckers" (yes you can swear on the internet uncensored and no one will scold you) are you talking about? Who's this "someone else" they made the Wii for?

And why are you so damn mad? I can just imagine you frothing at the mouth while typing this. Have a beer and relax, just because not everyone and their grandmother (and believe me, Nintendo tried to sell to gramdmothers) likes Nintendo as much as you do doesn't mean they'll go out of business. Reggie Fil-Aime, while not the smartest executive is a big boy now and doesn't need to you be his Hyrulian Shield online. We like Legend of Zelda too, but like Sonic the Hedgehog, the Hero of Time needs to rest a bit. Same with our favourite plumber. They've already ruined Samus' reputation and that's what we don't want to see happen to our other childhood gaming icons. But their just that. childhood icons. Nostalgia is best left in your head, or played on an old console from time to time. Not bought for the 4th consecutive time because Nintendo re-re-re-re-released it like Ocarina of Time.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Considering the reaction to the Terraria scuffle last week, I find the parallels here very amusing.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Logically the fans of the original Bayonetta aren't going to buy a Wii U JUST to play the sequel. This is a shot in the foot of both Nintendo and Platinum Games.

*Cough*Mass Effect 2 PS3*Cough*

 

[D-Soul]

I only say is lets hope it dosen't bomb so bad that it dosen't get a 360 or PS3 realease because that would be nice.

Also, I think you guys are forgetting something. Frack Sega. They ax games that have a good fan following even though most of their good games are made by Platinum Games(Ex. Bayonetta and Vanquish.)

 

[Therumancer]

Hmmm, well I kind of liked Bayonetta despite it not being my favorite genere of game, this is one I might actually have bought, but the odds of me getting a Wii U, or investing much in anything that relies heavily on motion controls are minimal.

You do know that the WiiU does not rely heavily on motion controls, right?

They seem to be saying both depending on what you read, the bottom like is that it's using thw wiimot and nunchuck accessories (even if you have to buy them seperatly) and seems to be seeing sports games like that one for ESPN being lined up right off the bat that strike me as new generations of what the Wii was doing before.

If they had just done the new gamepad/tablet thing, and dropped motion support entirely I'd be more interested, but as it is right now I think we're looking at more of the same, but Nintendo is trying to shoot out a shotgun of promises and hope they score with all audiences for initial sales, while then pretty much continueing with the same business model they had been using successfully before. Nintendo is not a company I expect to radically change, so I am not going to assume they are going to do so just because they seem to be promising everything to everyone like a US presidential cantidate.

 

[karloss01]

Bayonetta 2 is not going to sell well on the Wii U, Madworld proved that when there were protests that such a mature game was on the Wii (speaking for the UK here). Nintendo has put itself firmly in the family fun/child friendly category and games like this don't sell well because the target audience plays either 360, PS3 or PC.

though with the pro controller I MAY consider it and if I can get the console 2nd hand, but motion controls are a BIG NO.

 

[CortexReaver]

Hey, do you mean Sega has nothing to do with Platinum Games anymore? That's sad... for Sega, and me.

 

[Mr.Mattress]

Bayonetta 2 is not going to sell well on the Wii U, Madworld proved that when there were protests that such a mature game was on the Wii (speaking for the UK here). Nintendo has put itself firmly in the family fun/child friendly category and games like this don't sell well because the target audience plays either 360, PS3 or PC.

Thats, pretty much the reason they have Bayonetta 2 and ZombiU and Darksiders 2 and Mass Effect 3 and Ninja Gaiden 3 (or whatever...) and more... They want to get rid of that image. They want to go back to Hardcore players, and drop the image of Kid Friendliness (Though not completely and not themselves).

 

[hermes]

>Terraria comes to consoles
>PC Gamers mad
>"lol PC gamers are elitist/entitled brats"

>Bayonetta 2 comes to WiiU
>Console Gamers mad
>"WTF BLOW ME NINTENDO FUCK YOU PLATINUM"

I wonder how 'exclusive' this will turn out to be, I can see it being released on other consoles later on maybe. Although this is still quite surprising.

It's good that the WiiU has the attention of third party developers.

Yep, I love the severe hypocrisy coming from all the anger about this announcment.

I don't see them as equal, though...

Terraria is a PC game that is getting ported to consoles... PC gamers see no disadvantage for it, other than more people being able to enjoy it. Bayonetta 2 (as well as Rayman Legends) is a sequel to a game released on 360/PS3 exclusive to a new system. Fans of the original are forced to buy a new system to play it.

I don't hate Nintendo for doing their job, but I do hate Platinum/Ubisoft for agreeing to it, and I hate the situation when something like this was seen as "required" to make a sequel.

 

[The Goat Tsar]

You do know that the WiiU does not rely heavily on motion controls, right?

Still got that awful tablet. using a touch screen coupled with regular controls is almost as bad and unwieldy as flailing your arms around like a spastic chimp.

You'll probably be given the choice of using the tablet controller or the eerily familiar hardcore controller [http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17oof0ulitzcdjpg/original.jpg]. So controls really shouldn't be an issue.

 

[hermes]

Logically the fans of the original Bayonetta aren't going to buy a Wii U JUST to play the sequel. This is a shot in the foot of both Nintendo and Platinum Games.

*Cough*Mass Effect 2 PS3*Cough*

Was Mass Effect 2 exclusive for PS3? No.

Your example is flawed because no one that bought Mass Effect 1 was denied the possibility of playing the sequel.

 

[LITE992]

And I thought they were crazy when they supposedly canceled development on this game.

 

[ShirowShirow]

Well. I'm happy. And it may just make it so I need a WiiU.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Logically the fans of the original Bayonetta aren't going to buy a Wii U JUST to play the sequel. This is a shot in the foot of both Nintendo and Platinum Games.

*Cough*Mass Effect 2 PS3*Cough*

Was Mass Effect 2 exclusive for PS3? No.

Your example is flawed because no one that bought Mass Effect 1 was denied the possibility of playing the sequel.

Fine then, just keep up your tirade against Nintendo for having the gall to save a game from cancellation.

 

[oldtaku]

Is it really that hard to understand that people would be upset at a game they really really want (Bayonetta was that good) coming to a console they really don't want? Especially after getting burned on the Wii?

Of course they could articulate it a little better...

 

[GenGenners]

Fuck off Nintendo. :/

I am all for the Wii U getting exclusive, but fuck off if they're sequels to multiplatform games. First Rayman Origins sequel and now this. :/

Yeah! Fuck Nintendo for letting sequels to two underrated games be made! Fuck Nintendo for saving a cancelled game that you all wanted! Fuck Nintendo for trying to shake off their casual, kiddy image that you all want them to shake off! Fuck 'em! /sarcasm

Your over reacting, a lot. Also Rayman Origins underrated? Are you kidding me? It's hailed as one, if not, the best platformer of this gen.

Also pretty sure Bayonetta sold quite well for being a new IP, so maybe I can cut them some slack for possibly 'saving' the game, will have to see what platinum says first about it.

They're being assholes though for making exclusive sequels to multiplatform games.

By underrated I meant pushed aside by many gaming fans and selling not as much as it should. I agree, Rayman Origins was the best platformer of this generation.

Also, it wasn't Nintendo's decision to make Rayman: Legends a Wii U exclusive. It was Ubisoft's, Nintendo had nothing to do with it.

And, Nintendo are being assholes for saving a game that had been canned? Bayonetta 2 would have never happened if it weren't for Nintendo. Be happy that it's coming, and stop getting angry that it's on a Nintendo console.

A cancelled game is sad, but shit happens.
A game with a multiplatform fanbase that can't play it's sequel is just taking the piss.

I would rather it have been sadly but honourably cancelled than put on an exclusive shelf to taunt me forever just because I'm not specifically a Nintendo fan.

"I can't have the game, therefore no-one can have it!"

That is basically what you're saying. Many people will get the Wii U for this game, and enjoy a plethora of other good games (Rayman: Legends, ZombiU, Pikmin 3 etc), you'll be missing out because of your own fault.

Come on, Bayonetta was never on the Wii, so most of it's fans are NOT Nintendo gamers. How are you not noticing that?
Also, at that last bit, yes, it's totally my fault that I'm not rich enough to buy every console, even the ones I don't really want, just for the sake of getting one or two extra games.
Nintendo has never been my bag, so I'll be saving up for the other next-gen systems first. I'm not swimming in money. I can't just buy a whole next-gen console for the one game I want on it.

 

[TJC]

Oh god... internet tears... so very delicious.

So, Nintendo decides to help a developer make a game that would've never been made and the internet rages...

...

let me get this straight: Gamers would prefer a game not being made because it's Nintendo...

I understand many of rages against nintendo: the pandering to the casual crowd, Wii Music, the initial 3DS pricing, the slow drip in games the handheld had at start.

But this? I can't be the only one who considers this way of thinking to be borderline retarded.

 

[GenGenners]

When people ask for exclusives, they don't usually mean they want a previously 'free' IP anyone can enjoy to get repackaged and taken away from them.
When people ask for exclusives from Nintendo for the Wii U, they want Nintendo to make decent, original content.

A "free" IP anyone can enjoy? Please, enlighten me how a Wii/Steam gamer like myself can get my hands on Bayonetta without forking over a couple Benjamin for a 360 or PS3 to play it. Or does complaining about buying a whole new system for one game only apply in the other direction?

And Nintendo making decent, original content? Maybe you should stop taking Yahtzee as the @#$!ing gospel and try playing a few first-party Nintendo games. Kid Icarus: Uprising? Game of 2012. The Metroid Prime games? With Wii controls, best console FPSes out there. The Galaxy games? Yeah, they're the next Mario game but why don't you actually crack 'em open and play them and you'll find they're not the same game you've been playing since '85. I'm sick of "gamers" constantly bashing Nintendo for supposedly not bringing out the good stuff while completely dismissing their entire first-party stable as "kiddy rehashes." And yet six years later, you people still just cannot comprehend why Nintendo said "screw these bitchy mother@#$!ers, let's go find someone else" and made the Wii.

WOW. Just wow.........
Way to take my point and completely throw it out of the window. I never said anything about Nintendo's franchises being shit or rehashed or whatever. Where the fuck did I mention any of their games there? What has Yahtzee got to do with my post? Where did any of that come from?
You have come in here looking to start a fight haven't you?

When I said 'decent, original content', I was referring to where their focus should be when dealing with future Wii U exclusives. They should be either advancing their current portfolio or developing entirely new content, like a new IP. My point was that simply taking an already existing franchise and buying it should not be their focus for exclusive demand.

 

[hermes]

Logically the fans of the original Bayonetta aren't going to buy a Wii U JUST to play the sequel. This is a shot in the foot of both Nintendo and Platinum Games.

*Cough*Mass Effect 2 PS3*Cough*

Was Mass Effect 2 exclusive for PS3? No.

Your example is flawed because no one that bought Mass Effect 1 was denied the possibility of playing the sequel.

Fine then, just keep up your tirade against Nintendo for having the gall to save a game from cancellation.

At any point did I blame anything on Nintendo? No need to get defensive here.

I don't hate Nintendo for making this deal, although I do hate that the industry (and Sega in particular) is in a situation where the only way to make a sequel is to exclude it to the people that loved the original...