It all depends on the situation for me...if something didn't go your way or were rejected by a girl when you asked her out then there is no reason to be super sad just take it and move on.
'Be a man'!
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Well, in some cases you do need to just man up. If you are responsible for other people or have a job that needs to be done, you need to get off your ass and man up. Because thats what "being a man" is. Its taking responsibility for yourself and those who depend on you. Being a man isn't being emotionless, its overcoming them and getting your responsibilities taken care of.
Saying be a man to someone whos upset just makes them feel worse, it shows that you think their a wuss, which can have a variety of effects depending on how close you are to the person.
Or they could start to think everyone feels that way, that they have no right to be a man, no right to live, and commit suicide
...sorry I went a bit dark thar
But as a man suffering from possible bipolar, If I don't cry, I do ...other things 0_o
Or they could start to think everyone feels that way, that they have no right to be a man, no right to live, and commit suicide
...sorry I went a bit dark thar
But as a man suffering from possible bipolar, If I don't cry, I do ...other things 0_o
Its a bullshit answer.
People have problems, people get depressed. Some problems may in fact be little things someone's just getting worked up about. Other times its a serious issue and no amount of "being a man" will help. At all.
Saying "be a man" also opens up a whole can of worms that Labyrinth already explained.
If I see something sad in a book/movie/TV show/game, I'm probably going to cry. Toy Story 3 is the most recent to make me do so.
Being able to cry about doesn't make you a wimp, it makes you a person with feelings, emotions, problems, and depth. It means you have more to you then meets the eye.
Your a person, rather then an emotionless prick who holds everything inside then explodes in a usually violent way.
Granted thats just a generalization, this subject tends to get me riled up.
People have problems, people get depressed. Some problems may in fact be little things someone's just getting worked up about. Other times its a serious issue and no amount of "being a man" will help. At all.
Saying "be a man" also opens up a whole can of worms that Labyrinth already explained.
If I see something sad in a book/movie/TV show/game, I'm probably going to cry. Toy Story 3 is the most recent to make me do so.
Being able to cry about doesn't make you a wimp, it makes you a person with feelings, emotions, problems, and depth. It means you have more to you then meets the eye.
Your a person, rather then an emotionless prick who holds everything inside then explodes in a usually violent way.
Granted thats just a generalization, this subject tends to get me riled up.
I'm all for the whole man the fuck up attitude - Most people I say it too are upset from usual day stuff like, getting dumped, being a sissy about asking someone out, kittens dying and so on...
I've suffered death, debt and betrayal in my life and could well have depression (I ain't seeing a quack until I need a sick note - ain't going into it either), but you just gotta power through shit!
At the end of the day mankind has gotten here - to this stage through suffering and ingenuity...Seeing people get upset about shit that at the end of the day that is pretty minuscule in the greater scheme of things is pretty tedious especially the ones who try suicide/shit like it.
Yes I can understand it all but the worlds still turning at the end of the day.
This is regardless of gender, you could have 6 dicks and 4 tits and it would still apply.
Probably not worded this well and made myself come out looking the worse of it but meh.
Perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim.
I've suffered death, debt and betrayal in my life and could well have depression (I ain't seeing a quack until I need a sick note - ain't going into it either), but you just gotta power through shit!
At the end of the day mankind has gotten here - to this stage through suffering and ingenuity...Seeing people get upset about shit that at the end of the day that is pretty minuscule in the greater scheme of things is pretty tedious especially the ones who try suicide/shit like it.
Yes I can understand it all but the worlds still turning at the end of the day.
This is regardless of gender, you could have 6 dicks and 4 tits and it would still apply.
Probably not worded this well and made myself come out looking the worse of it but meh.
Perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim.
Exactly.Scarecrow 8 said:
As well put as Labyrinths post was, I'll just be far more blunt. If there's a thread about depression and you don't fall into one of these categories,
- You're a doctor
- You're suffering from depression
- You're living with/friends with/related to a depressed person
- You've suffered from depression
then it's probably best you just stay the fuck out of the discussion! Telling someone to 'man-up' or 'grow a pair' helps no-one. There is no manning up to be done, times have changed, dinosaurs be gone!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDCRp5mrYE8
Only real men watch this video.
Hey, I cried at the end of Gran Torino. And if you didn't, Clint Eastwood will come to your house, put a Smith&Wesson .44 Magnum to your head and fuck your sister. Men are capable of feeling sadness, though I never have, but we are also capable of working through it and coming out stronger then ever before. We're like Sayians that way.
Only real men watch this video.
Hey, I cried at the end of Gran Torino. And if you didn't, Clint Eastwood will come to your house, put a Smith&Wesson .44 Magnum to your head and fuck your sister. Men are capable of feeling sadness, though I never have, but we are also capable of working through it and coming out stronger then ever before. We're like Sayians that way.
I agree with it. I am a woman that rarely cries myself, only when hurt (physically) or someone I love is hurt/hurting. I do get sad, but I have learned that crying does nothing to fix anything. Also I REALY hate being pitied, that is a great motivator for not being a weepy female.
Ah, the gold old masculinity argument.
"Be a man, repress those emotions!"
Most of our ancestry faced much harder conditions than we do today. War, famine, disasters. Man was silent about his emotions not because he wanted to, but because he needed to. If you weren't violent or alert enough back in the middle ages, your body would be left in the gutter with all valuables taken by thieves.
So this ideal of a hard, cold and tough man has survived throughout generations. Now, in a time where most barbaric violence has been eliminated, we are challenging this old ideal.
So we're clashing with those who have embraced the old way of thinking and those who are willing to move past "being a man". I don't think it will ever disappear completely, after all "being a man" allowed marines to take Iwo Jima and let outnumbered paratroopers hold Bastonge. Without this attitude many things wouldn't have happened. As long as there is war or hardships facing humanity that require us to be manly, I think this mindset will remain.
Education is key in this issue methinks. The response "Be a man!" or "Grow a pair!" is basically either a defensive behavioral mechanism or intentional trolling. Perhaps both.
In anycase, I think this attitude is dying out a bit but still strong.
"Be a man, repress those emotions!"
Most of our ancestry faced much harder conditions than we do today. War, famine, disasters. Man was silent about his emotions not because he wanted to, but because he needed to. If you weren't violent or alert enough back in the middle ages, your body would be left in the gutter with all valuables taken by thieves.
So this ideal of a hard, cold and tough man has survived throughout generations. Now, in a time where most barbaric violence has been eliminated, we are challenging this old ideal.
So we're clashing with those who have embraced the old way of thinking and those who are willing to move past "being a man". I don't think it will ever disappear completely, after all "being a man" allowed marines to take Iwo Jima and let outnumbered paratroopers hold Bastonge. Without this attitude many things wouldn't have happened. As long as there is war or hardships facing humanity that require us to be manly, I think this mindset will remain.
Education is key in this issue methinks. The response "Be a man!" or "Grow a pair!" is basically either a defensive behavioral mechanism or intentional trolling. Perhaps both.
In anycase, I think this attitude is dying out a bit but still strong.
I can't believe how dangerously old fashioned your thinking is.AccursedTheory said:
I guess it's your opinion, but by my personal experience, by telling someone that, I just feel like I try and wash my hands of helping them, and that just sounds weak to me. I'd rather stand and take people's pain away than let them handle it themselves and hurt themselves.