rsvp42 said:
RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
rsvp42 said:
last line of defense for humanity
I have an 5 armies of Praetorian's, Steel legion, Cadians, Catchans, and Moridan Iron Guardsmen that say FUCK YOU!.
You know nothing of this world. The Marines are the tip of the spear, Guard is the rest of the spear. Marines get so much attention because they are the ones GW wants to sell more and more of.
The Guard are just a wall of meat to slow them down, but they do their part.
I take offense, to that, good sir! For every Astartes out there, we have a hundred Basilisk artillery tanks, a thousand Leman Russ battle tanks, a hundred thousand Guardsmen! The Guard keeps the Imperium alive, not the Astartes.
Besides, who do you think is bravest? The guy that goes to war in power armor and armed with a mini-rocket launcher, or the guy that goes to war in a wet t-shirt and armed with a laser pointer?
Thyunda said:
And the Tau are such nice aliens! When the Space Marines first found them, they earmarked their planet for 'purging'. The Tau had just discovered fire. Two thousand years later, they come tanking back with those big bloody cannons that make me want to leap across the table and punch my brother in the face.
But...they're probably the only ones who could be construed as 'good'.
The Tau are by no means good, they're just naive. They've yet to realize the sort of universe they live in, given that their FTL technology sucks. But even so they show signs of being anything but good. Unless you count concentration camps and forced sterilization indications of goodness.
Besides, even within the Tau ranks, there is dissent. Look at Commander Farsight. Their main military commander saw what the galaxy is like, and realized that for the Tau to survive, they have to give up any notion "the greater good" and just do unto others what they do to them. And for that, he's now an exile from his own race.
Also bear in mind that fluff-wise, they are, by far, the most insignificant of races, and will live only for so long as one of the other factions can't really be bothered looking at them for more than five minutes. Even the half-arsed Damocles Crusade only failed because those pesky Tyranids showed up somewhere else.