Yes, actually, it is that bad, considering:Break said:It's not actually that bad. For a lot of people, sure, useless, but if you don't have broadband, or you have crazy internet-paranoid parents who refuse to let you have an online account (a friend of mine suffers from this) then it's pretty nice way to get an updated 360.
Oh, right, well then. Best Buy are crazy, and people are suckers.CyberKnight said:Yes, actually, it is that bad, considering:Break said:It's not actually that bad. For a lot of people, sure, useless, but if you don't have broadband, or you have crazy internet-paranoid parents who refuse to let you have an online account (a friend of mine suffers from this) then it's pretty nice way to get an updated 360.
1) you can download updates from an internet-capable PC and burn them to a CD or USB stick,
OR,
2) updates are distributed on new games (Microsoft reserves some disc space on all 360 games for this purpose -- developers don't get the full 9GB of a DVD for their game), so if you buy new releases, you'll get your console updated eventually anyway.
Yeah. If the closest Best Buy here wasn't four hours away, I now for sure wouldn't shop there.Radeonx said:...Wow. Another reason to hate Best Buy, though. At least I don't live close enough to one that would make me want to shop there.
Yes, Best Buy should be ashamed of trying to steal that much money from stupid people.Break said:Oh, right, well then. Best Buy are crazy, and people are suckers.CyberKnight said:Yes, actually, it is that bad, considering:Break said:It's not actually that bad. For a lot of people, sure, useless, but if you don't have broadband, or you have crazy internet-paranoid parents who refuse to let you have an online account (a friend of mine suffers from this) then it's pretty nice way to get an updated 360.
1) you can download updates from an internet-capable PC and burn them to a CD or USB stick,
OR,
2) updates are distributed on new games (Microsoft reserves some disc space on all 360 games for this purpose -- developers don't get the full 9GB of a DVD for their game), so if you buy new releases, you'll get your console updated eventually anyway.
Just know that the employees there don't necessarily agree with the practice.Radeonx said:...Wow. Another reason to hate Best Buy, though. At least I don't live close enough to one that would make me want to shop there.
Yeah. BEcause the person offering it WANTs to. It isn't because their job depends on it...no not at all...they are out to fuck with you.Archemetis said:I wonder if there's a Best Buy near me?
I have a strange urge to fake buying a 360 up to the point where they ask if I want the "update service" and then say, very loudly.
"What? spend a ridiculous sum of money, money I could spend on a game for my newly acquired console so that you can take my brand spanking new purchase out of the box, touch it with your HANDS, whilst robbing me of the experience of turning it on for the first time so that you could go online and update my system, a service which is provided for free and is as simple as leaving it be and making a sandwich?"
Pausing for enough time for people to take notice.
"No, I don't think I want that."
Egg freaking zactly.SomeUnregPunk said:They also try to rope customers into a cleaning service when you buy a computer.
They claim that they will rip out all the ads and shit in the computer and then update it for you. When I asked the clerk why I would pay someone to do that when I can do it. The clerk looked to see no one was looking and pointed at the cash register.
I hate it SO much. When I try to sell a laptop to someone, it is exactly what they want, and we flip it around to see pre done work on it.George Palmer said:Not only are they pulling this shit with the xBox, they are doing it with computers too. I went to buy a laptop. The price was $600. I get to the register they ring it up as $670.
"Oh thats what we charged to update the windows OS"
I've been using computers since the late 70's. I can do that myself. I don't need you to do that. I'll take a laptop without the update.
"Oh we've done it for all the laptops. They ALL come with this upgrade service now."
Ok, then forget it. I will buy my laptop somewhere else.
"Oh...umm...let me get a manager... (1 minute passes)...(manager arrives)it seems we've found a laptop that wasnt updated, your in luck!"
No, your out of luck. Im not falling for this bullshit. You just lost a sale. Try being honest with people next time and not over charging them for something that is pretty much automated on the computer.
And I haven't been back since.
As far as I'm concerned they can go fuck themselves in the ass with a big rubber dick.
Oh please get started, I'd love to hear it, lolbrabz said:Best Buy preys on tech-illiterate people like vultures circling a carcass.
A friend of mine needed her laptop fixed and they wanted to charge her in excess of $200. I take a look, spend 20 minutes on it, and it's as good as new; zero cost to me and a case of beer as repayment.
Lesson: Never go to Best Buy for any tech help(don't get me started on what they call "home theatres"), and if you don't want to learn how to fix it yourself; find a friend who works cheap.
To be fair, I'm pretty sure that not every Best Buy is full of idiots. Myself and at least two other folks in my department are far more PC literate than even the people in Geek Squad. I don't bullshit people, if I don't know I tell them, but as it stands nobody has asked me a question harder than "What is a router?" But then again I've been dealing with PCs for about a Decade. I will admit that I've worked with tons of really ignorant people in any department (and admittedly you put me in the wrong place and I am one of those people).Altorin said:Oh please get started, I'd love to hear it, lolbrabz said:Best Buy preys on tech-illiterate people like vultures circling a carcass.
A friend of mine needed her laptop fixed and they wanted to charge her in excess of $200. I take a look, spend 20 minutes on it, and it's as good as new; zero cost to me and a case of beer as repayment.
Lesson: Never go to Best Buy for any tech help(don't get me started on what they call "home theatres"), and if you don't want to learn how to fix it yourself; find a friend who works cheap.
I agree with you on shopping smart by looking around online.galaxygamer said:I never understood why companies, like BB and GameStop, own huge sectors of the video game industry, but they aren't broken up like other monopolies. I also don't understand why BB and GameStop continue to make money, while other real boutiques and chains like GameCrazy, are closing at record numbers across this country. It blows my mind that people know these mega-companies perform these unscrupulous acts, but they are still supported by consumers. Simply amazing!
This is another reason why I will buy my shiny new Ps3slim on Amazon.com. Forget these big-box stores that only care about screwing over the customer. I'll just shop online. At least Amazon has good customer service
/rant
~~Nick
Word, dude..Word.George Palmer said:snip
As a Best Buy employee, people really are that dumb. Not a damn thing that the Geek Squad guys do cannot be done by a guy who knows next to nothing about computers (like me.)Bigeyez said:Best Buy has been doing this with the computers they sell for years. (Circuit City does this with PCs as well) And Yes, people do indeed fall for it. They simply don't know any better.Gamegodtre said:how stupid do you have to be to buy this "updated 360" i mean i now ppl cant be this stupid can they?
They offer to "optimize" your PC (which really means they just plug it in and update Windows and any programs you want on it) and charge a "nominal fee" for the "service" they just gave you.
This is one of the many reasons why I refuse to shop at Best Buy or Circuit City.
You know they are not magicked to the stores right? sometimes they would sit in a warehouse for weeks, eventually get shipped to a store, and then possibly sit on the shelves for some time. There is no telling if that box you got was six days or six months old. Do you want Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony to put freshness stickers on your boxes?Gariom said:This is a crime! There's actually people who are unaware how easy it is to get the update that would actually pay for this and it's not fair.
But, by all rights, Microsoft should ship new Xbox's (especially Elites) with the newest update already installed. But then again, that would be generous and make their customers a little happier and Microsoft simply isn't capable of that.
I actually agree with this take on it. It would be nice of them to offer it, but then that would mean they have to keep records of who is eligible to basically bring their box in and jack it into a wall and a monitor so they can patch all their games. It would be something I could see a smaller chain doing, but not a huge store like Best Buy. As well, everyone and their mother at least knows someone with an internet connection, and if you are going to take your box somewhere might as well take it over to your friends house. Hell I live in a tiny rural town and I still have multiple choices of affordable high speed providers. Seriously a 40Mb/s fiber connection is $34.99.Geoffrey42 said:...My point stands that it would be a nice thing for you to be able to bring your machine in and get the newest updates... Same goes for games, which get patched, but lacking an internet connection, makes it more difficult to obtain said patches...